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Topic: Latex vanishing coke bottle v. tube vanishing coke bottle?
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Sep 29, 2011 10:09AM)
I would appreciate your thoughts as to which version of the vanishing coke bottle you think it more entertaining and deceptive: latex version or the tube version?

If I used the latex version I would use the new latex half filled coke bottle currently available through Twister Magic. I would pour some the the liquid into a glass and turn the liquid into a black silk. I would use the black silk in the Zebra silk effect. Since I would not need the coke bottle anymore I would put it in the bag and vanish it by crumpling the bag per the regular routine.

If I used the tube version I would use the Maxello Magic new vanishing coke with the tube. You can shake the liquid inside but cannot pour it out. Instead of using a production of flowers I would produce some silks which I would then use for the zebra silk routine and vanish the coke bottle inside the tube per the regular routine.

I think that the tube vanish may be a bit more visual since the tube is clearly seen to be empty as compared to the latex model using a paper bag. But with the latex model you can pour out some liquid as a convincer.

Which method do you think is more deceptive?

Thank you very much.
Michael
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Sep 29, 2011 10:29AM)
Michael,

I have both and have used both over the years. I just like the latex approach because it just looks much more innocent to me and to the audience. It tends to appear as if they are more common items used. The audience sees the bottle and the bag and can relate. There also is no awkward moves that have to be made stealing anything away. It is self-contained.

Just make darn sure you remember to not throw away the bag after you crumble it up. Lol

Kyle
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Sep 29, 2011 10:33AM)
Kyle,

As always, I appreciate your thoughts and comments based upon your vast experience. I will take your advice to heart. You are right about not frogetting the bag. Lol.

Thank you again for your time and courtesy.

Best wisehs to you and your family,

Michael
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Sep 29, 2011 10:39AM)
Michael,

My pleasure my friend. Both really do work well.

I would not say one is great and the other weak. It is personal preference for sure. I just think that the latex approach is just a bit more innocent and a bit more of a reaction from audiences. I also do not have to worry so much as to how I pack it all up and making sure the tube and such doesn’t get squashed or cracked.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Sep 29, 2011 10:46AM)
Kyle,

I was thinking of doing teh vanishing coke routine towards the beginning and towards the end I would re-produce the real bottle of coke using THIS silks and leave the real coke bottle on teh table before heading off for anyone to touch it or take it.

Michael
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Sep 29, 2011 11:02AM)
Michael,

I like how the act would go full circle. I like how you could vanish it and then reappear it at the end. That could be kind of fun and logical.

However, I would refrain from leaving it there. That idea in any children’s or famly show would cause kids freaking out, running, pushing and shoving to get it. Then those who do not, would get upset. Also, some parents do not or would not allow their child to have soda.

The better idea is to produce it and have yourself a quick drink as you end the show. You have more control that way.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Sep 29, 2011 11:12AM)
Kyle,

You are right. Also I would not want any kids knocking over the glass bottle causing it to break.

Thank you again for your help and corutesy. I sicnerely appreciate it.

Best wishes,

Michael
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Sep 29, 2011 12:05PM)
My pleasure my friend. Glad to help.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: themagiciansapprentice (Sep 29, 2011 03:25PM)
In tend to use the tube as an occasional starter.

The latex I use as a longer routine involving me being hungry half-way through the show, so I also do foam chicken sandwich or pizza oven etc. After wrapping the bottle in a paper-bag I crush it and put it into one pocket.

David Ginn uses both in a routine that also produces a can from the tube as a closer.
Message: Posted by: MichaelCGM (Sep 29, 2011 04:37PM)
[quote] On 2011-09-29 11:09, magicinsight wrote: I would appreciate your thoughts as to which version of the vanishing coke bottle you think it more entertaining and deceptive: latex version or the tube version?[/quote]I agree with Kyle... the latex is much more innocent. You might also consider Martin Gardner's "Snacks Alive" presentation, which removes the bottle one step further, making reverse reconstruction even harder, while providing another grand, comedy production. I use it and really love it.
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Sep 30, 2011 08:40AM)
Michael,

Thank you for your comments. Did you mean Martin Lewis's Snakes Alive routine on his Making Magic dvd?

Thank you again for your help.

Michael
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Sep 30, 2011 09:33AM)
Kyle;

You’re correct, at one show I almost forgot to take the bag at the end of the show since it was a new trick for me and the bag was in a corner of where I was performing; now I toss it into a box so it won’t be left behind as trash
Message: Posted by: MichaelCGM (Sep 30, 2011 11:53AM)
[quote]On 2011-09-30 09:40, magicinsight wrote: Thank you for your comments. Did you mean Martin Lewis's Snakes Alive routine on his Making Magic dvd?[/quote]Yes, I did mean Martin Lewis. Sorry about that. :) But I believe the title is "Snacks" Alive, unless my memory is totally gone.
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Sep 30, 2011 02:27PM)
Michael,

Yes. It is on Martin Lewis's Making Magic vol. 1 I just watched it per your suggestion and it is very good. I like how it distracts from the bag and puts focus on the can.

Thank you for your help and suggestion.

Michael