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Topic: Whats the name ?
Message: Posted by: dahih beik (Jan 4, 2012 03:23AM)
Whats the name of this particular zombie !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zgNz6VZPtU&feature=related
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 4, 2012 12:25PM)
This ball does not have a name that I am aware of, I contacted the Ernesto Planas and he said it is his and he is working on an act with this Sphere and his Multiplying Jumbo Spheres. He gave no other information. Ernesto lives in Italy, being some high quality magic comes out of Italy from time to time, I would imagine it is made over there.

He is a working performer in Europe and Levent has worked with him as well on some shows.

The routine is the creation of Ernesto Planas as well. We had a lengthy discussion of this effect on the Café recently. There are varying opinions as to which ball methodology he is using in this sequence.
Message: Posted by: dahih beik (Jan 5, 2012 10:31AM)
I think this is one of the best zombies ive seen although the gimmick eliminates some of the classic moves but still the falling of the scarf is one hot moment .. arnesto is a great performer I wounder if he has this for sale , ive seen something similar in fism la bella de nuit or something like that ...
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 5, 2012 12:00PM)
As I said, I emailed him to see if he would [b]sell[/b] me a Red Sphere, being he lists he has a "School of Magic".

This was his response:

"Nice to meet you , in this moment this act is in process to elavoration, am sure
in the future I will marketable this act, write now is impossible to me.
Really was a pleasure to meet one person honest and respectful as you.

Thank you very much, we speack in the future
Best regard
Excuse my english

Ernesto Planas"

I take from his response he is not selling the Spheres.
Message: Posted by: Jerico (Jul 29, 2012 01:49AM)
No offense to Mr. Planas, as I'm sure he is an exceptional performer, but the method, and for the most part the routine, are from Jeb Sherrill's Zombie Re Animated Volume 2. Even the part where she floats the ball down in front of the foulard and then drops it. Grant it, Jeb uses a Zombie gimmick for the first few seconds in his version, then drops it and this girl is much prettier than Mr. Sherrill, but this is not Mr. Planas's routine.

Jerico
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jul 29, 2012 02:09AM)
I have contacted Mr. Planas, and did not ask him where he got his methods. But it is not Jeb Sherrill's either. The method is published before he was born (I would imagine) in the booklet Further Tips on Zombie by Abbott's Magic Co.

As for the cloth, that was created back in the 1970's and 1980's when Astrosphere was sold by Tannen's Magic.
Message: Posted by: Jerico (Jul 29, 2012 09:21AM)
Bill,

The essential method perhaps, but that routine, and the way she uses it in conjunction with the foulard, are directly off that DVD. Many of the moves are even in the same order. The foulard is not used the same way it is in Astrosphere. If you saw the DVD, you would understand.

Jerico
Message: Posted by: Sorcerer (Aug 4, 2012 11:30AM)
Hello everybody
Perhaps I'm missing something, but this seems to me a variation about the old classic "belle de nuit" effect, I don't think this uses a zombie gimmick. By the way... hot chick ;)
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Aug 4, 2012 07:35PM)
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On 2012-08-04 12:30, Sorcerer wrote:
Hello everybody
Perhaps I'm missing something, but this seems to me a variation about the old classic "belle de nuit" effect, I don't think this uses a zombie gimmick. By the way... hot chick ;)
[/quote]

There has not been any reference to the standard Zombie gimmick in all the above references. The booklet covers another method as well.
Message: Posted by: Mike Maturen (Sep 26, 2012 03:56PM)
Nice effect...and made all the better by the performer!
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Sep 27, 2012 05:05PM)
What I think we should all take from this is how a really simple large floating ball can be performed very easily. If it is Jeb Sherrill's routine, then he did publish it for all to use. Why he has not promoted it more, but I guess he has his reasons.

This is what can be accomplished with some practice an thought and working with a prop, no matter who came up with the moves. Abbott's booklet credits Mickey Ostaski as the originator, and it does have a suggested routine with moves in the booklet covering 9 pages.

It even gives Ernesto's float low to the floor idea, where Ostaski has it actually rest on the floor. Earnesto should be commended for taking a printed idea and turning it into a exciting Floating Ball routine.

The Golden Ball Charlotte Pendragon is selling uses the same method, but suffers from lack of floating routine or moves.

I know all the young magicians will be excited to know that this can be done in the nude, as they are always so worried they may have to wear cloths in all their posts.
Message: Posted by: Kent Wong (Sep 27, 2012 05:17PM)
Absolutely beautiful routine. I loved how one move naturally flowed into the next, with the impossibility of the effect getting stronger and stronger as the routine progressed. The total "disconnect" between the ball and the performer was incredible and really sold the piece. This is how a floating ball should look!

Kent
Message: Posted by: EddieM (Jan 21, 2014 12:27PM)
Looks like Vernet just released this effect (at least it looks like the same thing): http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/-p-17971.html
Message: Posted by: stuartmagic (Jan 21, 2014 12:52PM)
There have been many "different variations" of this effect and also many rip offs.

This is totally different than a zombie ball and you can do much more with it than with a zombie ball. It is only limited by your own imagination but it takes a lot of practice to make it look good without revealing the secret to it in performance.

The proper name of the effect is The Astro-Sphere.

Stuart
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 21, 2014 05:11PM)
According to a topic on the Café concerning Floating Balls, the late Magic Ian said Vernet has been selling a no cloth Floating Ball for some years, and he posted a picture of it in the forum. I had searched and never found it on the Vernet website. I guess Vernet decided to put out their Floating Ball in the form of Astro-Sphere to sell their stock.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 21, 2014 05:14PM)
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On 2012-01-04 04:23, dahih beik wrote:
Whats the name of this particular zombie !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zgNz6VZPtU&feature=related
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I found this website that sells a ball that looks like the Planas ball. It is very expensive, so I have not seen it personally.

http://www.magicshop.pro/oder-salon?product_id=116
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 21, 2014 05:17PM)
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On 2012-07-29 10:21, Jerico wrote:
Bill,

The essential method perhaps, but that routine, and the way she uses it in conjunction with the foulard, are directly off that DVD. Many of the moves are even in the same order. The foulard is not used the same way it is in Astrosphere. If you saw the DVD, you would understand.

Jerico
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That may be, but Tips on Zombie was published before Jeb Sherrill was born. I am sure, in his research he has found the book and routine.

Does Jeb drop the cloth to the floor?
Message: Posted by: Jeb Sherrill (Feb 20, 2014 09:00PM)
I ran into this routine some years back. It's very beautiful and yes, it does look a lot like the handling from one of my DVDs. I'm very glad to see it getting some use. The part of the method Bill is talking about I actually got from a pamphlet on floating lightbulb, but it's the same concept he is referring to, also published in the pamphlet he refers to. Yes, I did drop the cloth in my version, but again, I released it to the public in my DVDs as one of many floating ball methods on the advanced DVD. The only move she left out was using a normal gimmick to float the ball beneath the foulard for a moment before going into the rest of the routine. That part was a real pain and I don't blame Earnaesto for dropping it.

Jeb
Message: Posted by: ERNESTO PLANAS (Mar 19, 2014 04:59AM)
NEW VIDEO ( OVNI )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdS3hDOPgnU
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Mar 20, 2014 09:50PM)
So Great to have a true professional visit The Magic Café. Thank you for posting your latest developments with your Floating Ball routine. The mark of a performer to be constantly striving to strengthen his work.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Mar 23, 2014 05:51PM)
Her name is Selene. She does a more conservative routine here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVxPEMBKkVA&playnext=1&videos=FMxXVI9hFpo&feature=mfu_in_order

You can USE an AstroSphere to do this, but the basic system she uses is the One-Point. This is described in Ralph Wichmann's book "The Invisible Thread Manual". It begins on pg 15. On pgs 17 & 18 the move with the silk is described.

Funny, Selene does the routine I did for years! I had bought the AstroSphere and hated the hookup! I got out Wichmann's book and used the One-Point. I went thru almost an entire pool of Sulky before I was ready to perform it! :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Mar 24, 2014 11:14AM)
Oh, by the way, I believe the effect shown is called The Moon.

Doug