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Topic: Routine that utilize MD+Mark Deck?
Message: Posted by: sychou (Feb 7, 2012 01:50AM)
I have heard of using MD with mark deck before,but in real life,I only perform tricks using MD alone.
Are there any published work on MD mixing Mark deck?Does mixing MD with mark deck really better than MD alone?
Because from my exprience I think using MD alone is strong enough.
Please helping me,Thanks
Message: Posted by: Josh Chaikin (Feb 7, 2012 03:46AM)
If you use a MD, you spread, estimate, peak and correct. If you use a MD and a marked deck, you can be a lot more casual about things. Is there anything in print that uses both? Virtually anything that uses a MD alone can be done with both of these tools.
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Feb 7, 2012 03:54AM)
This is true, but keep in mind that many things you can do with a MD are so unbelievable that spectators often think you are using a marked deck even if you don't do. So use it wisely... I often when doing stage or stand up leave the deck as a gift with spectators. Jan
Message: Posted by: jonnyboy (Feb 7, 2012 07:52AM)
Boris Wild had an effect that used both in the Genii issue on which he was the cover subject, within the last year. It is a nice effect, IMO.

Message: Posted by: Waterloophai (Feb 7, 2012 08:37AM)
I don't know the trick in Genii, but in his DVD serie there is a very strong trick with the combination MD-MD.
Message: Posted by: Dennis Loomis (Feb 8, 2012 08:35AM)
Two comments: First, in Simon Aronson's book "Bound to Please" look up the effect with the Zensational stack which Simon incorporated into his mem-deck stack. This allows you to have any one of the 9 different poker hands selected and you deal that hand to the desired person at the table. (Yourself, the guy to your left, etc.) All deals are for a four-handed poker game. This is a powerful effect for poker players and worth having in your arsenal. It requires that you start the deal from different places in the deck and this is much easier to accomplish if the deck is also marked so that you know where you're at without having to glimpse the bottom card repeatedly.

Dennis Loomis

P. S. I created a very simple series of mnemonic codes so that you know, for example, if you want to deal a flush you start with the 30th card on top of the deck. That will put the flush into the hand of the person to your left. If you want it somewhere else, you will then need to move either one, two, or three cards from the bottom to the top. If anyone is working on this, feel free to send me an email and ask and I'll send you the list of mnemonic codes I came up with. You'll need to know the phonetic alphabet to utilize my codes, but most mem-deck workers will already know that. I also have a way to restore your Aronson stack after this effect, using a simple follow-up effect.
Message: Posted by: Vayron (Mar 13, 2012 04:40AM)
Boris Wild's book has a hole chapter on the MD and the marked deck. Have a look at it, it's worth the price. Check on youtube his effect called pure telepathy. Wonderful.

Message: Posted by: magicmann (Mar 13, 2012 03:33PM)
Which book are you refering to.

Message: Posted by: Vayron (Mar 19, 2012 01:55PM)
The complete Boris Wild marked deck I think. I have the book in french.
Message: Posted by: magicmann (Mar 19, 2012 02:59PM)

Message: Posted by: mindexplorer (Apr 24, 2012 11:03PM)
One of the main advantages of the marking is that it allows you to "know" without the peek of the bottom card. Look at some of Osterlind's material and imagine not having to handle the pack once it is given to the spectator. By combining the two you can even tell people, "I looking away while you hide your card so that even if the cards were marked I wouldn't be able to see it." Richard Osterlind does this if the person accidently flashes the bottom of the pack before he has the pack returned to put in the box. Richard will back away several feet and have them put the cards in the box, etc. so that he doesn't come anywhere near them. If it is marked, you could always do it this way.
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Apr 25, 2012 05:41PM)
You'll find easily main disadvantages too :) Jan
Message: Posted by: mindexplorer (May 2, 2012 12:54PM)
On 2012-04-25 18:41, JanForster wrote:
You'll find easily main disadvantages too :) Jan

Sorry Jan, but this is too cryptic for me. If you mean that the spectator will find the marks, I guess it would depend on the marking system as to how easy this would be. Of course, I realize that if the marks are too difficult to find, they may be difficult to find for the performer as well.

I do prefer to use marks where they are buried in another method, thus the use of the MD. This way the trick isn't so obviously possible using marks, as Jan mentioned in his first post.