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Topic: Tru test - nathan kranzo anyone?
Message: Posted by: EVENT (Mar 5, 2012 01:02PM)
Hi
have you seen this ?
any review?
http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/

thanks
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Mar 5, 2012 07:42PM)
Yeah, I've been waiting,, but it's been very quiet.
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 6, 2012 05:52AM)
This is an updated version of a U.F. Grant classic. Jheff has written a good review here:

http://www.marketplaceofthemind.com/trutest.html

Good thoughts,

Bob
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Mar 6, 2012 07:13AM)
Thanks Bob, nice review.
Message: Posted by: EVENT (Mar 6, 2012 02:45PM)
Thanks
it sounds really amazing
looking forward to hear other opinions as well.

thanks
Message: Posted by: aukt (Mar 6, 2012 02:54PM)
It's mother, in a magazine.

Beautiful.
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 6, 2012 03:20PM)
Actually, the original Tru Test was the forerunner of the MOABT.

Just to show how times (and prices) have changed, I bought Grant's Tru Test around forty years ago for under ten bucks.

Good thoughts,

Bob
Message: Posted by: aukt (Mar 6, 2012 03:55PM)
The production qualities of this are fabulous.
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 6, 2012 04:01PM)
Yes, it looks really good.
Message: Posted by: eSamuels (Mar 6, 2012 04:04PM)
Nathan added an nice additional touch, that's not found in MOAB, concerning the order of words.
I won't get into specifics, but will say that it provides the opportunity to do a very strong added phase to your routine.

Have yet to do the necessary work to put this 'together' (I only received it yesterday), but it does show lots of promise.

e
Message: Posted by: sabitu (Mar 6, 2012 05:19PM)
I'm interested in this but my only concern is the page f---e. Will the page selection create any suspicion?
Message: Posted by: aukt (Mar 6, 2012 05:40PM)
No
Message: Posted by: EVENT (Mar 6, 2012 05:46PM)
What I don't understand is how is it like mother if you don't need to 'pump' the first letter as he says so on the trailer?
and they choose ANY word.
sounds not bad to me.
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 6, 2012 06:30PM)
Actually, you don't have to pump the first letter in Mother either. There are many ways of getting around that.

Best-

Bob
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Mar 6, 2012 06:39PM)
Is it U.S. specific, please? I'm going to pass if it is...
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 6, 2012 08:24PM)
The pages are designed to match those in Time or Newsweek magazines.
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Mar 6, 2012 09:13PM)
I wish there was a version to be used with magazines like People or US, with more appeal to ladies and younger audiences.
Message: Posted by: John C (Mar 7, 2012 06:15AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-06 16:20, mastermindreader wrote:
Actually, the original Tru Test was the forerunner of the MOABT.

Just to show how times (and prices) have changed, I bought Grant's Tru Test around forty years ago for under ten bucks.

Good thoughts,

Bob

[/quote]

Dang Bob, I didn't even think you were forty years old!

J
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 7, 2012 09:16AM)
I'm not. I have a time machine. I use it when I want to buy stuff cheap.

Bob
Message: Posted by: eSamuels (Mar 7, 2012 10:18AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-07 07:15, johncesta wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-03-06 16:20, mastermindreader wrote:
Actually, the original Tru Test was the forerunner of the MOABT.

Just to show how times (and prices) have changed, I bought Grant's Tru Test around forty years ago for under ten bucks.

Good thoughts,

Bob

[/quote]

Dang Bob, I didn't even think you were forty years old!

J
[/quote]

It's not so much the fact that he bought it 40 years ago that impresses me, it's that he remembers what he paid for it!
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 7, 2012 10:22AM)
Ha ha. Not really that amazing, though. I worked part-time in a magic shop back then and can still remember the prices of most everything we sold.

Bob
Message: Posted by: ThatsJustWrong! (Mar 11, 2012 09:10PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-06 22:13, Mindpro wrote:
I wish there was a version to be used with magazines like People or US, with more appeal to ladies and younger audiences.
[/quote]

Nathan included this in his lecture in CT this weekend and he used Time and Redbook, so there is some flexibility. It plays very well.
Message: Posted by: floridamagic (Apr 18, 2012 05:53AM)
I just added TruTest to my TradeShow set it killed one guy said that was the best trick he has ever seen. A+
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Apr 18, 2012 06:04AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-18 06:53, floridamagic wrote:
I just added TruTest to my TradeShow set it killed one guy said that was the best trick he has ever seen. A+
[/quote]
Ah ! if somebody told me that, I'll be ****-off !
It means a new trick not really tested will be better than my others routines I perform for awhile !
I hope this day will never comes !
Message: Posted by: floridamagic (Apr 18, 2012 06:40AM)
It was the only trick I did for him. At a TradeShow you don't have time to do a bunch of tricks just one or two to get them into the booth. So it was the best trick he seen me do over other magicians.
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Apr 18, 2012 07:15AM)
The offensive part is that he called and perceived it as a "trick". I would have been upset as well. If they see it as a trick you aren't doing it justice in your performance, or you are a magician performing it as magic, rather than mentalism which this is supposed to be.
Message: Posted by: floridamagic (Apr 18, 2012 07:32AM)
I am a Magician not a Mentalist performing a mental effect, is there something wrong with that?
Message: Posted by: Tony Razzano (Apr 18, 2012 11:41AM)
Never mind.
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Apr 18, 2012 11:50AM)
Ditto
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Apr 18, 2012 11:51AM)
Sorry, double post
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 18, 2012 11:52AM)
LOL.

This is such a futile argument..... I love the Café!

Thanks so much for the kind words about the effect from everyone who did so.....

I have been thinking about making some different pages with different words. I'll keep you updated.

GOOD NEWS!! I have been using it with a Rolling Stone magazine with much success (fits perfectly) as well as a Playboy. For the right crowd this kills. Please understand that it won't hurt my feelings if you talk bad about, or don't use, this test. I'm here to spread love.......

Thanks y'all!

Kranzo

P.S. Right now you can get a very special offer when you purchase the TRU TEST. Email me for more info! nathankranzo@gmail.com

Click here to watch me perform it on NBC 25 morning show. http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/products/grants-tru-test-the-best-magazine-test-of-all-time
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 18, 2012 11:54AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-06 17:01, mastermindreader wrote:
Yes, it looks really good.
[/quote]

Bob thanks so much for your kind words and your awesomeness.

You da man.

Later,

Kranzo
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Apr 18, 2012 12:20PM)
Kranzo-

I have to say that I have heard nothing but good things from those of my close confidantes who own your version of TruTest.

Best-

Bob
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Apr 18, 2012 12:27PM)
I do love this too, and would be interested in your updates you mentioned above.

This was my whole point is this can be strong mentalism, it's a shame to waste it as a magic trick. Perhaps magicians won't understand this. Very well done and great quality Nathan.
Message: Posted by: floridamagic (Apr 18, 2012 01:27PM)
Thanks Nathan for putting out a effect for the full time working pro its a worker.
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 21, 2012 10:44PM)
Thanks again Bob!!!

Erick thanks so much for the kind words. I will quote you on that. : )

All the best,

Kranzo
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 25, 2012 09:04AM)
Guess who just got Worker OF THW WEEK on Wizard Product Review?

http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/blogs/blog/5984759-tru-test-receives-worker-of-the-week-on-wizard-product-review
Message: Posted by: shomemagic (Apr 25, 2012 09:25AM)
I just watched WPR and congratulations on worker of the week...Its on my to get list now.
Message: Posted by: John C (Apr 25, 2012 09:39AM)
Today could be my day for tru test. It is my birthday! Should I go for it?

Tap your mouse once for yes, twice for "perhaps. "
Message: Posted by: NFW (Apr 25, 2012 10:27AM)
Just watched WPR this looks very good indeed
Message: Posted by: elierfr (Apr 25, 2012 11:47AM)
Hi,

Can it be done with a French magazine ?

Thanks
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Apr 25, 2012 12:27PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-25 12:47, elierfr wrote:
Hi,

Can it be done with a French magazine ?

Thanks
[/quote]

No.
Message: Posted by: Pete Legend (Apr 25, 2012 02:06PM)
Lads whats the craic? Since I'm from Ireland I wonder what size magazine are we looking at here? Hate the get it and not be able to find a suitable sized magazine...I dunno would National Geographic or typical men's health magazines be viable or are we talking specific magazines here?

Sound!

Pete
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 25, 2012 07:06PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-25 10:39, johncesta wrote:
Today could be my day for tru test. It is my birthday! Should I go for it?

Tap your mouse once for yes, twice for "perhaps. "
[/quote]

John it would be an honor to wish you a happy Birthday...lol

Seriously now is a good time. : )

if you have any questions. nathankranzo@gmail.com

Thanks guys!

Kranzo
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 25, 2012 07:06PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-25 10:25, shomemagic wrote:
I just watched WPR and congratulations on worker of the week...Its on my to get list now.
[/quote]

thanks so much!
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 25, 2012 07:07PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-25 13:27, mastermindreader wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-04-25 12:47, elierfr wrote:
Hi,

Can it be done with a French magazine ?

Thanks
[/quote]


LOL. Thanks for helping BOB. : )



No.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 25, 2012 07:08PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-25 15:06, Pete Legend wrote:
Lads whats the craic? Since I'm from Ireland I wonder what size magazine are we looking at here? Hate the get it and not be able to find a suitable sized magazine...I dunno would National Geographic or typical men's health magazines be viable or are we talking specific magazines here?

Sound!

Pete
[/quote]

I don't have either on hand but I have used a National Geographic before. I did the torn version and it was great!

Kranzo
Message: Posted by: Interfector (Apr 29, 2012 05:16PM)
Hello ..

I have a question .

Can it be performed with any language magazine or it must be in English only ?
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 30, 2012 08:04AM)
Hi Anas~

Thanks for the question!

AT THIS TIME it is only available in English. But I may be persuaded to have it printed in other languages. : )

All the best,

Kranzo
Message: Posted by: bertietonks (Apr 30, 2012 08:25AM)
Tru test flipping rocks. I have been using final flashback now for many years and still think the multiple layers it provides helps to set a really strong peice. When I recieved my Tru Test I was very impressed with the quality of both the supplied sprinkles of magic and the construct of the act as provided by Nate. Being a magazine makes it feel so much more organic than a book, simple, direct and very strong mentalism in a lightweight format.

I would recommend this for what its worth and the price I think is very respectible given its potential application.

Bertie
Message: Posted by: RichardShure (May 1, 2012 11:58PM)
For a slightly different perspective you might want to read this: http://mylovelyassistant.com/reviews/view/3061
I have Tru-test and have not performed it for some of the reasons listed.
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (May 2, 2012 05:24AM)
I have just received my Tru Test.
And have just read the review at the link Richard posted.

There are some typos in the instructions yes. And as these are the names of people we all know, if only by name,this is a bad oversight.
The second "negative point" in the review is absolutely, completely wrong!
He mentions something is missing from where it should be. It's not.
He says that even if it were there (which it is) it's the wrong thing. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS PROPERLY.
What he's talking about is actually a secondary effect, not part of the main effect. And it works as it should. Bad reviewing there.

Another complaint is that the person can't pick ANY word on the page. We all know an expensive book test that has the same limitation.
Next; you need a piece of information in order to know the word. We all know an expensive etc. etc. etc.....
Grammar is another complaint. Here there is some validity in his review and if someone were to read the whole page things would seem somewhat odd.

There are ways of preventing them from reading the whole page.
Gert them to rip up the page until they only have a small piece
Get one person to close there eyes and draw a circle on the page. The next person finds a word in the circle.
If you want to re-use the page, get a business card with a hole in it. Ask them to close their eyes and slide the card over the page and stop when they want. "Now open your eyes and find a word that shows through the hole"
Or use their wedding ring. Like Banachek, only without a gimmick.

I would be more upset if there were typos in the actual words, but I haven't had it long enough to check that yet.

None of the things listed in that review would stop me from performing this

steve
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (May 2, 2012 06:07AM)
As a little add-on to my previous post I've been a little naughty.

One of the complaints was that there was a spot where a space was omitted between two of the words on the Tru Test page.

In my post above I also omitted a space on the third line of text, just to see if it caused any problems. Anyone spot it?
In regard to the complaint about typos, I also put in a typo on line 13.

Any other mistakes you find are not deliberate just me being stupid :)

Steve
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (May 2, 2012 01:14PM)
LOL

Thanks Steve!


My latest release the Tru Test just recieved a great review at About.com http://magic.about.com/od/mentalism/a/Review-Shared-Dreams-Tru-Test_2.htm
Message: Posted by: Pete Legend (May 2, 2012 04:43PM)
Ha Steve nicely done ;) I've used my MOAB probadly close to 700-800 times if not more in a host of different envirnoments. Depending on the situation I would not hesitate to use Nathan's tru-test in it's place. Using a well know magazine has it's obvious perks when performing such an effect. I have both MOAB and MOAB 2.0 and both get fantastic reactions and I know when I use the tru-test that it will get the same fantastic reactions plus as a bonus I can leave the magazine on stage, in the crowd or wherever. Typo's and incorrect spacing may be a slight annoyance to some ( I didn't notice a thing) but in real world performing situations it wont be a problem. I recommend it highly. Great work and very fast shipping, got here to Ireland in something like 3 working days...unreal! :)
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (May 2, 2012 04:47PM)
Yes really fast shipping.
I ordered on 26th and it arrived here in Holland on 2nd

I ordered stuff a week earlier that hasn't shown up yet


Steve
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (May 2, 2012 10:36PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-18 08:15, Mindpro wrote:
The offensive part is that he called and perceived it as a "trick". I would have been upset as well. If they see it as a trick you aren't doing it justice in your performance, or you are a magician performing it as magic, rather than mentalism which this is supposed to be.
[/quote]

I got more out of that paragraph than most books I've read.

THANK YOU!

Clarke
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (May 9, 2012 06:03PM)
[quote]
On 2012-05-02 17:47, steveline wrote:
Yes really fast shipping.
I ordered on 26th and it arrived here in Holland on 2nd

I ordered stuff a week earlier that hasn't shown up yet


Steve
[/quote]


Thanks so much for the kind Comments Steve!!!

I hope you are enjoying it!!

Don't forget to see the special this month.

http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/products/grants-tru-test-the-best-magazine-test-of-all-time
Message: Posted by: Rich Ferguson (Jun 16, 2012 11:03AM)
I thought I'd give some feedback on Tru test. First of all, kudos to Nathan for taking this idea to a modern level/application. It was certainly waiting for this to happen. It was such a surprise, that within the day I had shared many handling ideas and other magazine inventions/thoughts with him as I felt a real connection with his thinking. I'll tell you straight out that this has become a favorite effect overnight for me. Regardless of people's complaints about the small, unfortunate "imperfections", there is a unique thing that happens with Tru test that never happens with books and you are really missing out if you dismiss it. Nobody seems to question a thing and you can just see the difference right away. I'm not trying to turn this comment into a "well, it's all about how you manage spectators" type thing. I get it. I'm simply conveying that handling out a couple CURRENT issues of magazines takes a test to a very interesting level. I already do impromptu and memorized tests, but this direct test is a no brainer. This is the point. They sit around in everyday situations, they are light to carry(HUGE), etc. It's as close as you are going to get to real mind reading in a everyday setting for me.

To share my approach: I ask someone to choose a magazine. I use another and openly turn the pages slowly until they say stop. In my case, I show the page to be what it is and instruct the other spectator to turn their magazine to this page that they have chosen. I have them hold the magazine they originally picked (Time in this case) up so no-one else can really see and point anywhere on the page. When they do, I say think of any substantial word there and shut the magazine. (I like saying substantial because it implies "meaning" and "large" vs. being so direct with "large"). I recap that they had several magazines to choose from, hundreds of pages to chose from, thousands of words on each page and they pointed anywhere they wanted... then thought of a word anywhere near where they pointed. It does not get more fair and direct. I reveal the word in a variety of interesting ways.... how do you beat this? I'll also mention I did this last night doing mingling entertainment at a Safe and Sober Grad night for 600 kids. It kills when done intimately (strolling) and I find this more powerful than on stage. It could be my interactive style, but this is ridiculous fun. As awesome as they may be for some, I really could care less about the numerous other Trutest effects that you can do from tearing down to a small piece or having them read a few words, I simply love that I can do something as insanely direct as I explained.

I'll also mention I got his lecture with my order and watched half yesterday. I'm very glad to have connected with him and peeked inside his wacky head. If you want to pass on this effect because of a few negative comments from others- Perfect. Thank you for not saturating the market. I want this for myself!!
Message: Posted by: Olympic Adam (Jun 16, 2012 02:02PM)
I won this a couple of weeks ago and will be performing and filming a performance or two this week, I really like it...

it's just so clean and when you do it right it's perfect

... I can explain more in a video of course ;)
Message: Posted by: bertietonks (Jun 18, 2012 05:28AM)
Nate

I'm still singing your praises on this one buddy. I like your thoughts about creating a new look version to help increase the versatility around your the useage of your test, particularly when a client might be around for a second run performance and you would like to guide them through a slightly different presentation for example the imagery.

Bertie
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Jun 27, 2012 08:55AM)
Thank you Bertie!

You hit the nail on the head man.

I use this in almost every single show I do and It always kills. Using it with a Rolling Stone Magazine a lot lately.

All the best,

Kranzo

Watch a demo!
http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/products/grants-tru-test-the-best-magazine-test-of-all-time
Message: Posted by: SamNJ (Sep 3, 2012 03:56PM)
I saw this done over the weekend and it really killed.
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (May 19, 2013 10:07PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-16 12:03, Rich Ferguson wrote:
I thought I'd give some feedback on Tru test. First of all, kudos to Nathan for taking this idea to a modern level/application. It was certainly waiting for this to happen. It was such a surprise, that within the day I had shared many handling ideas and other magazine inventions/thoughts with him as I felt a real connection with his thinking. I'll tell you straight out that this has become a favorite effect overnight for me. Regardless of people's complaints about the small, unfortunate "imperfections", there is a unique thing that happens with Tru test that never happens with books and you are really missing out if you dismiss it. Nobody seems to question a thing and you can just see the difference right away. I'm not trying to turn this comment into a "well, it's all about how you manage spectators" type thing. I get it. I'm simply conveying that handling out a couple CURRENT issues of magazines takes a test to a very interesting level. I already do impromptu and memorized tests, but this direct test is a no brainer. This is the point. They sit around in everyday situations, they are light to carry(HUGE), etc. It's as close as you are going to get to real mind reading in a everyday setting for me.

To share my approach: I ask someone to choose a magazine. I use another and openly turn the pages slowly until they say stop. In my case, I show the page to be what it is and instruct the other spectator to turn their magazine to this page that they have chosen. I have them hold the magazine they originally picked (Time in this case) up so no-one else can really see and point anywhere on the page. When they do, I say think of any substantial word there and shut the magazine. (I like saying substantial because it implies "meaning" and "large" vs. being so direct with "large"). I recap that they had several magazines to choose from, hundreds of pages to chose from, thousands of words on each page and they pointed anywhere they wanted... then thought of a word anywhere near where they pointed. It does not get more fair and direct. I reveal the word in a variety of interesting ways.... how do you beat this? I'll also mention I did this last night doing mingling entertainment at a Safe and Sober Grad night for 600 kids. It kills when done intimately (strolling) and I find this more powerful than on stage. It could be my interactive style, but this is ridiculous fun. As awesome as they may be for some, I really could care less about the numerous other Trutest effects that you can do from tearing down to a small piece or having them read a few words, I simply love that I can do something as insanely direct as I explained.

I'll also mention I got his lecture with my order and watched half yesterday. I'm very glad to have connected with him and peeked inside his wacky head. If you want to pass on this effect because of a few negative comments from others- Perfect. Thank you for not saturating the market. I want this for myself!!
[/quote]



WOW!!!!!!

Rich I have been away for a while now and am just seeing this post.

You are too kind.

Thank you so much for your kind words and the great ideas you've contributed to our art as well.

All the best,

Kranzo


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