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Topic: Hyrum vs. Glorpy
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Oct 10, 2003 02:52AM)
Is there any advantages one have over the other? Do they have the same manufacture?
Message: Posted by: Samuel Catoe (Oct 16, 2003 12:46AM)
They are the same thing. You can find better quality glorpys around. Eugene Burger sells what I have heard are good quality glorpys, but I have heard they are smaller than the usual and they cost $30.

Samuel
Message: Posted by: Namzyr (Nov 11, 2003 04:31PM)
Okay, I'm lost.

Anybody care to tell me what a glorpy or hyrum is?
Message: Posted by: Mark Williams (Nov 11, 2003 05:38PM)
I own Hyrum, it has stood the test of time and I still perform with it to this day.

Namzyr--Both Hyrum and Glorpy are Silk Handkerchiefs. Casually shown on both sides, then a story about a special Ghost is told--As if by unseen forces, the Ghost comes to life inside these Silks. Each will perform some spooktacular effects. Then, just as quickly as the Ghostly apparitions manifest themselves, the silks are shaken free of this whimsical Spirit. Again the Silks are shown on both sides--And the Ghost has vanished.....There is a very comical kicker at the very end, however I won't spoil it here. Usually each of these can be purchased for under 15.00 dollars, sometimes even less. Check either online at one of the fine sponsors here at the Café, or check your local Magic Store. Hope that helps!!
Message: Posted by: Namzyr (Nov 12, 2003 04:22PM)
Wait! Flashback! Oh wooowwww!

Yes, I know what a hyrum is- I own one!

It was one of the first effects I purchased, and it was actually made from a cloth bandana-looking thing.

Although I don't think it was ever called that.

As a matter of fact, I was going through the old stuff just the other day, and wondered if I'd ever use this again ...

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Magicduck (Nov 12, 2003 09:01PM)
I would make my judgement only based upon the pattern or quality of the handkerchief...whichever one you like best. If in fact you see them side by side and get a choice. Otherwise, I would not worry either way.

quack
Message: Posted by: bobdomeros (Nov 13, 2003 06:16PM)
Does anyone know a source for instructions on making a Hyrum or Glorpy? I'd like to have one made with a certain kind of fabric, and have a duplicate non-gimmicked one for another effect.

I guess I could always buy one, take it apart and make another. (ReverseEngineeringMagic.com?)

Are there any sources for magic seamstresses who could make these and similar props, besides going to someone like Owens?
Message: Posted by: Magicduck (Nov 17, 2003 12:28AM)
Geesh. Buy one, take the gimmick out and put it in a piece of fabric you like. When you see the apparatus , you are gonna realize you do not need to hire anyone to make this up. Someone who had never sewn a stitch could make this if he or she had a hanky that was seamed to start. Frankly, I would go to a dealer and pick through the glorpys and hyrums till I found a silk I liked and then forget it. Many of these effects are made of very pretty hanks. If you do not live near a dealer, then call some dealer (probably not one of the big ones), but chazpro, Daytona or one of those guys. Tell them you want a red one, a blue one, a green one... give some preferences and they will probably be able to pick one you will like.
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Message: Posted by: DrDale (Nov 17, 2003 08:47PM)
I have had several of these in both varieties, and other than liking one silk better than the other, they are all the same
Message: Posted by: Daniel Faith (Nov 22, 2003 01:23AM)
I have a couple of the hyrums and I never liked them due to the stupid paisley pattern.
It doesn't really fit my persona anyways.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Dec 7, 2003 01:21AM)
I have a post in "Innovative Glorpy" that addresses most of what has been discussed here. I was not personally as hapy with the gimmicks in Hyrum as I was with the ones in Glorpy. There are other brands out there too. I still vote for Glorpy. None have had consistant patterns for silks, that I can tell, since the 1970s when I started using them. They used whatever scarves were currently available. You can too!

In fact, why not match Glorpy to a dove harness and produce a dove from him after his regular routine?
Message: Posted by: PendletonThe3rd (Jul 21, 2013 10:21PM)
I got Hyrum for my six year old who is getting into magic. He actually kills with it...It's a neat little trick. Made me think for a sec why I spent $200 on the Thing Platinum Edition but you can't really compare the two.

Still, for a fraction of the price, it's a great effect.
Message: Posted by: malaki (Aug 15, 2018 12:27PM)
Here in Oklahoma, the only version I have ever seen available since the 1970s has been Hyrum.
The only problem with Hyrum is they have continued to use the same, nasty looking, red and green paisley "silk" <polyester> for ever.

I simply buy the Hyrum, remove the gimmick and insert it into a good looking silk. It takes a bit of time and patience, but your newer, better looking Hyrum is ready. With a bit of care, it will last for years.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Sep 18, 2018 01:42PM)
The last patch of Hyrum at the local magic shop was terrible. The gimmick was bent in the wrong direction. Glorpy is no longer made by Madblood creations. Copies I have seen are not up to the original product.

Only draw back with this effect, you need a large table that is clean. It is fun to perform and gets great spectator reaction.

How many use the blow gag?
Message: Posted by: malaki (Sep 18, 2018 02:15PM)
Halloween is on it's way, when my Hyrum gets it's biggest workout of the year. It works quite well in low light, and looks very creepy when properly played.

I don't use the blow gag, for we already have too much wind in Oklahoma, I feel no need to add to that situation...... ; )

I instead talk of how, "...during this time of the year, the veil between the worlds is at it's thinnest. The spirits tend to roam free... at times they can even penetrate that veil."

My favorite bit is to incrementally "control" the rise of the spirit with my hand gestures, then, after smoothing it down again, end the routine by allowing it to leap completely off of the table, into the air. If you get the right momentum with the gimmick, it can leap up to a couple of feet. Played correctly, it looks as though it was all you could do to catch it before it flew away.

I have literally had people run away, screaming, kids dropping their candy, the entire nine yards!

By the gods... I love Halloween! I haunt my own house, and I laugh more on this night than any other night of the year! ; ) At what other time of the year do you get to go out and scare the h3ll out of the neighbors w/o worrying about having to talk to the cops?

PS
I have a "Boo Box" planned for this year!

PPS
So how do you present your Hyrum/Glorpy?
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (Sep 18, 2018 03:23PM)
Spellbinder came up with 20 variations on the Hyrum/Glorpy business that he simply calls "Hank, the Ghost Hank" all contained in The Wizards' Journal #16.

Gimmicks:
Ghost Hank 1 –Spellbinder’s variation #1
Ghost Hank 2 – Spellbinder’s variation #2
Ghost Hank 3 – Impromptu
Ghost Hank 4 – Invisible Gimmick
Ghost Hank 5 – Superball Gimmick
Ghost Hank 6 – Magnetic Gimmick
Ghost Hank 7 – Long Gimmick
Routines:
Ghost Hank 8 – Flapping Fairy
Ghost Hank 9 – Leprechaun's Irish Whiskey
Ghost Hank 10 – Pompom Critters with Ghost Hank
Ghost Hank 11 – Abominable Snowman Ghost Hank
Ghost Hank 12 – Ghost Hank and Matching Necktie
Ghost Hank 13 – Ghost Hank D’Lite
Ghost Hank 14 – Ghost Hank Easter Eggs
Ghost Hank 15 – Ghost Hank Candy Kisses from Cupid
Ghost Hank 16 – Ghost Hank Goo
Ghost Hank 17 – Live White Mice or Hamsters with Ghost Hank
Ghost Hank 18 – Ghost Hank Flea Circus
Ghost Hank 19 – Ghost Claus
Ghost Hank 20 – Halloween Hauntings
Message: Posted by: Ihop (Sep 19, 2018 02:56PM)
I have both a Glorpy and a Hyrum.
I prefer the Glorpy but they both work fine.
Has anyone ever tried putting a business card in the Glorpy and making it rise?
I’m in Phoenix now but will try it when I get home
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Sep 19, 2018 09:46PM)
There use to be a 2 part gimmick, by George Blake (as I remember) sold through the defunct Supreme magic back in the 1960's. It could then twist and make more movements and raise the silk in different ways. It came on a real magicians silk. I did not care for it that much. But it was different and worth mentioning.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Sep 19, 2018 09:51PM)
[quote]On Sep 19, 2018, Ihop wrote:
Has anyone ever tried putting a business card in the Glorpy and making it rise?[/quote]

The original Glorpy instrctuons came with a small one inch square white card, there was a line drawing of a simple ghost figure. The performer dropped the card in the center of the cloth as the folds were being made.

No reason you could not palm your business card and drop it, as you were folding an end over to use for cover. Just some good timing is all it would take.

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[b]I forgot to mention that the fold is slightly different between Glorpy and Hyram instructions. I like Glorpy's better.[/b]
Message: Posted by: Magical Moments (May 3, 2019 06:36PM)
Let us not forget Tenyo Phantoma which is a combination of a Glorpy type handkerchief and a Rattle Box made to look like a haunted house.

The handkerchief color, design and material are all terrific IMHO. The haunted house is a bit difficult to use due to it being stiff.

The idea of combining the two objects/effects is fantastic!
Message: Posted by: FrankFindley (May 9, 2019 11:41AM)
John Cornelius created a version using an ungimmicked hanky. He presented it in a lecture at an Abbott Get Together in the mid 1980s. It is an especially fun version to do for other magicians given their preconceived notions. ;)
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 9, 2019 03:53PM)
Frank, the solid ball illusion is not the creation of John Cornelius, he was performing it, I believe because no one else was. It uses an ordinary men's handkerchief, and a gimmick you add and remove during presentation. You could hit the top of the puffed up hank with a spoon to show it was solid. Then place your hand on top of the hank move your hand in a circular motion, like you were rolling around on a ball.

I got my 1st one in the early 1970's from Harry Stanley's Unique Magic Studio in London England. It came with a different gimmick that allowed the a movement effect. It is stored away, or else I could find the name they had for it. I purchased John's from him at lecture many years ago.

I read, John just passed away recently, so sad, another great magician's magic wand has broken. Wondered why I could never contact him over the years.
Message: Posted by: FrankFindley (May 9, 2019 09:36PM)
Bill, thanks for the history. Funny, a video showing the classic hank effect popped into my youtube feed earlier this week: [url]https://youtu.be/M7k2MwbPm2M[/url]


Wow. Daryl, Aldo, Johnny, Marshall, and now John... so many I've learned so much from...