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Topic: Emerson & West
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 15, 2012 11:08AM)
Can anyone add to this Emerson & West marketed packet card tricks list? 17 so far. Any high recommedations from this group? Thank you.

Color Monte
Eight Ball
Flipped Out
Gypsy Curse
Gourmet Mouse
Hamman Eggs
Rat Traps
Round Trip
Soup To Nuts
Sympathetic Cards
The (W)hole Thing
Wild Wild West
Message: Posted by: Richard Doyle (Jun 15, 2012 04:39PM)
Trans print was presented by Emerson & West but is Bill Taylor's
Six Mix - Emerson & West
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Jun 15, 2012 06:10PM)
Auto Suggestion
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 15, 2012 06:56PM)
All this help is downright fantastic! I super appreciate it on my quest of E & W. Also, I have received some more info via PM. To me, often times old school is new school. To an audience that hasn't witnessed the effect before, it is without doubt, new school. I greatly respect the 'Golden Age' of packet card tricks. We are the culmination of what came before in the truest sense. Richards post reminded me of the importance of listing the creators name. Their just recognition is long overdue in many cases. The new total up to this time is 21. An update is in order. Thank you all, once again.

ADD+IX - Larry West
Auto Suggestion - ?
Color Monte - Jim Temple
Dicey - Bob Ostin
Eight Ball - Larry West
Flipped Out - Ed Hollins
Gems - Walt Maddison
Gourmet Mouse - Larry West
Gypsy Curse - Peter Kane
Hamman Eggs - Bro.John Hamman (witty pun trick name considering the inventor)
Rat Traps - Bob White
Reflections - Peter Kane
Round Trip - Peter Kane
Sequence - Larry West
Shaggy Dog Tale - ? (supposedly well kept underground secret for years)
Soup to Nuts - Jim Callan
Sympathetic Cards - Magic Ronnay
Tra-Fix - Larry West
Trans-Print - Bill Taylor
The W(h)ole Thing - Larry West
Wild Wild West - Larry West (there's that pun thing again)

An "All Star" line-up of inventors imo. Any trick details, stories, memories, new trick names of the old, corrections, et.al., are all welcomed here.
Message: Posted by: Stanyon (Jun 15, 2012 11:18PM)
Jazz Band - (Based on Peter Kane's "Jazz Aces")
Message: Posted by: Christo (Jun 16, 2012 02:27AM)
I like Sympathetic cards. Lots of changes and a good storyline. Also The Four Card trick with 8 cards, which doesn't seem to be on the list above-perhaps I have the name wrong. This has a great surprise ending where cards that were 1=-4 twice in the beginning become 1-8. All can be examined!

Message: Posted by: Chris (Jun 16, 2012 10:52AM)
Arthur Emerson is still alive. He might have a complete list.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 16, 2012 12:21PM)
Stanyon, Christo & Chris...all great info. All new to me. Chris...any idea on how I can find a way to contact Mr. Emerson? Richard, I guess I blundered by just listing Trans-Print when in reality both tricks were released by E & W. Now corrected.

When I began this quest, I somehow thought that there were approximately 25 or so items. After further investigation, messages & e-mails, it now appears to number around 50. I was also unaware of how collectible E & W has become. There is a very dedicated group of fans of E & W that is very similar to the Tenyo type of collecting. Many regard these items with fond memories. Hopefully, this list helps in aiding everyone that has any interest level. Once again, a big Thank You all! The new update brings the current total to 33.

Add + IX - Larry West
Auto Suggestion - Bob Ostin
Camouflage - ?
Coin-Cidental - ?
Color Blind - ?
Color Monte - Jim Temple
Cut-Throat Casino - ?
Dicey - Bob Ostin
The Di-Sect-Ed Damsel - Peter Kane
Eight Ball - Larry West
Flipped Out - Ed Hollins
The Four Card Trick - ? (trick name confirmed)
Gems - Walt Maddison
Gourmet Mouse - Larry West
Gypsy Curse - Peter kane
Hamman Eggs - Bro.John Hamman
Jazz Band - Peter Kane
Know Fuling - ?
Mimics - Peter Kane
Penetra-Bill - Gene Anthony
Rat Traps - Bob White
Reflections - Peter Kane
Round Trip - Peter Kane
Shaggy Dog Tale - ?
Sequence - Larry West
Signature - Trevor Lewis
Six Mix - Bill Taylor
Soup To Nuts - Jim Callan
Sympathetic Cards - Magic Ronnay
Tra-Fix - Larry West
Trans-Print - Bill Taylor
The Whole Thing - Larry West
Wild Wild West - Larry West
Message: Posted by: todsky (Jun 16, 2012 04:28PM)
Gems is really nice. The cards have beautifully printed precious stones on them, raised and embossed: a giant red ruby, blue sapphire earrings, a green emerald broach (or brooch), and white pearl necklace. A really cute story about the lady‘s precious gems getting robbed from the vault, and how the detective solves the mystery and finds them again.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 17, 2012 04:34PM)
Thank you todsky. Never knew the effect, just the name. Sounds like they went all-out with this one.

One new addition. Total now 34.

A Night Out With The Girls - ?
Message: Posted by: Paul (Jun 18, 2012 08:52AM)
A Night Out With The Girls was certainly NOT an Emerson and West release.

Some of the plots listed have been visited in later years by others. People may prefer John Bannon's "The Royal Scam" say, to Ronnay's "Sympathetic Cards" handling. Daryl has a different handling with jumbo cards for "The Whole Thing" (and Tony Griffith once had a variant that concluded with a picture of Spot the dog.) Bob Ostin had another commercial variant on "Auto Suggestion" called "Inebriation" that he briefly marketed but is fully described in the book on his magic "Bob Ostin A Lifetime of Magical Invention" by Stephen Tucker. Bob's "Dicey" effect is also detailed in the same book.

Some of my favorites were "Gypsy Curse" which itself has inspired a number of handlings in print since it appeared, "Gourmet Mouse" (just cute), "Soup To Nuts" and "Trans-Print" . The ending of the latter inspired my own release "Not Another Three Card Trick". Whilst "Color Monte" was without doubt the best seller there are better handlings for the same 'type' of routine, R. Paul Wilson's "Gypsy's Monte" for instance from his "Knock 'Em Dead" notes. Perhaps the latest version on the market is one from Meir Yedid:
Meir told me "Color Monte" should NOT have been credited to Jim Temple as it had earlier appeared in print by someone else and in his latest release puts the historical record straight.

Inert, if you're really into packet effects and their history you might love books like "Small But Deadly" which can be found here:
or the sequel "Still Small Still Deadly" which will soon be out of print but the odd copy can still be found here:

Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 18, 2012 02:02PM)
Thank you for taking the time Paul. I really appreciate it. All pertinent info. The exact type of knowledge I was seeking. Great links also.

It is always fascinating to me to follow an effects evolution over the years, as you perfectly illustrate with your examples of 'Sympathetic Cards', 'Gypsy Curse', et.al.

From my investigations, as you pointed out, Color Monte should have been credited to Ed Marlo from his 'Quick 3-Way' from 1958. This was followed by Bill Elliot's '3 Card Monkey Business' from 1959. Jim Temple's contribution appears to be the final kicker card.

I've also just learned that Fun Inc. has acquired all rights to the Emerson & West line. They have already re-released &/or modernized Color Monte, Dicey, Eight Ball, Gourmet Mouse, Gypsy Curse, Hamman Eggs, Know Fuling, Shaggy Dog Tale, Sympathetic Cards & Tra-Fix. Add + IX & The Whole Thing will follow shortly. I found 'A Night Out With The Girls' by looking at Fun Inc's. site. All E & W products have a SKU code which starts with ew. ANOWTG has this code. I am assuming that it is an old E & W based trick with a modern new theme or twist & maybe even a new name. There is a chance that the SKU code was a typo of course.

Both 'Small But Deadly' & 'Still Small But Deadly' are on my keen to buy list. From what I'm hearing, they are considered the standard reference books on the subject. All held in high regard.

Is it possible for you to add any more info on trick or inventor names? I'm still in the neighbourhood of 17 or so shy of the grand total. Even a recommended top 10 would be great. Anything would help. Thank you.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Jun 19, 2012 09:10AM)
I'm pretty sure "Know Fuling" was a Larry West creation. Basically a bar trick.

Walt Maddison was a friend. I never saw "Gems' performed with the specially printed cards, though Walt himself used to perform it with four aces.

I have a whole chapter devoted to "Jazz Aces" in "Still Small, Still Deadly" (I have only 7 copies of that book left).

Your list of Emerson and West effects is actually greater than the number I mention in my book.
I never came across "Rat Trap" for instance but was told later told it was a good one.

Bear in mind not every Emerson and West release was a packet trick, and some packet effects may not play as well today as they did then. It's the same with some of the Nick Trost items.

Maybe Night Out With The Girls was lumped with Emerson and West stuff simply because its a packet effect. I'm pretty sure it originated a little later, maybe with Tony Curtis, but there were a few similar things around, "Night Out in Paris" etc. with photos of nude or bikini clad girls. Compare these to say "Know Fuling" which simply has a cartoon caricature of a busty woman and you'll conclude they don't really fit with the Emerson and West range. But that's just an educated guess, I also don't recall Art demonstrating or selling it.

A quick search turned up this:

Fun inc. bought out Hampton Ridge who had the Emerson and West stuff but on this clip the Hampton Ridge name appears. Tony Curtis is credited. No Emerson and WEst references on the advertising picture. The effect was also sold by Tony Curtis in the U.K. long before Hampton Ridge had it.

P.s Here the connection between Night Out in Paris and night Out With The Girls is mentioned:
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 19, 2012 02:05PM)
Thank you once again Paul.

It's a crying shame that there is no definitive list of Emerson & West effects posted anywhere. I find it an injustice to both the men involved & magic in general. The 'Golden Age,' deserves accolades imo.

You were spot on with mentioning that not all E & W effects were packet tricks. I have stumbled upon some in my research such as 'Cut Off.' I am now left wondering if 33 or so is actually the upper limit of their packet effects?

Totally concur with your reasoning in regards to 'A Night Out With The Girls.' It just seems too risque' & runs contrary to E & W's basic business style in general.

If I could just bother you one more time (Yes, I know I'm pushing it), is there any chance you could review 'Di-Sect-Ed Damsel,' on here? It just seems to be a great & clean working trick to me.


The Four Card Trick - Alex Elmsley (unconfirmed). There is another version attributed to another inventor, but I like to believe this is Alex Elmsley's version, as I have read that Alex Elmsley actually inspired the whole E & W line.

Know Fuling (sometimes written Know Fu-Ling, as the main character's name is Fu-Ling - Larry West.

A Night Out With The Girls - Tony Curtis. Removed from list.
Message: Posted by: martyjacobs (Jun 19, 2012 03:33PM)

Elmsley's "The Four Card Trick" is the granddaddy of all packet tricks; I love it and have several variations. I don't think it was ever marketed by E & W, maybe Davenports (as a manuscript)? Mr Hallas will probably know!

Message: Posted by: DelMagic (Jun 19, 2012 04:08PM)
Gentlemen, what an awesome thread!

There can be a lot nattering and downright rude and uncivil interaction on the Café, but threads like this help to make it all worthwhile.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Jun 20, 2012 05:26AM)
On 2012-06-19 16:33, martyjacobs wrote:

Elmsley's "The Four Card Trick" is the granddaddy of all packet tricks; I love it and have several variations. I don't think it was ever marketed by E & W, maybe Davenports (as a manuscript)? Mr Hallas will probably know!


Only the grandaddy of all packet tricks that use the Elmsley count, lol. And still very effective today. It wasn't available from E & W, but through Davenports as Marty suggested. It can be found detailed it the Elmsley books, where it credits the 1959 manuscript. That pre-dates E & W.

Inert said; "The 'Golden Age,' deserves accolades imo."
That's why it's discussed in "Small But Deadly" :0 :)

Regarding; "Is there any chance you could review 'Di-Sect-Ed Damsel,' on here? It just seems to be a great & clean working trick to me. "

I never had that one, so cannot. Maybe someone else can. You have to remember, not all the E & W packet effects were available at any one time, or remained available. And probably not all were 'winners'which is why some are remembered better than others.

You'd really enjoy my packet trick books, Inert, pity you don't have them :) :)

Another non packet effect E & W release was "The Pocket Secretary" which was a combined card to wallet and billet index.

Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jun 20, 2012 08:15AM)
E&W had a twising effect out also, I do not remember the name of it but the Ace, Two, Three, and Four of clubs was shown and the cards would twist and the card faces changed colour, one was red, one green, and one yellow.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 20, 2012 03:27PM)
Thank you Marty & Paul for stepping up to the plate yet again. Very informative on Alex Elmsley too. It is this kind of fellowship effort that will produce what I hope will be the best listing available of the E & W line. I do not know if it will ever be definitive, but at least it will be in the ball park range. Is there no catalogues?

DelMagic...I really appreciate your kind words & thoughts. Paradoxically, I am just returning to posting myself, after a long absence due to the scenario that you aptly stated. Many of the wittiest & knowledgable of posters (imo) have withdrawn for the very reasons you gave. They found it all very discouraging & disheartening to say the least. I am currently on a quest to get them back online. We all must remember Steve Brooks' original purpose & intent of the Café'; Fellowship & a sharing of knowledge. I may be naive, but I still believe in this fraternity. I salute you DelMagic for having the courage to bring forth a tricky issue that is lingering in the back of many minds.

Lol Paul! You've won me over Mate. Can I order both direct from you? You've also given me the idea of listing non-packet tricks also. If the goal is the number 50 or so, it is the only effective way to maintain a cohesive list.

Wravyn...at first I thought the effect you recalled may be 'Sequence', but have since decided against this as there are no color changes I believe. Any chance it could be 'Flipped Out' or 'Four Card Trick'?


Bicentennial Card Trick - Nick Trost (need to confirm that E & W put it out)

Invisible Wand - Larry West with Al Cohen (need to confirm that E & W put this one out also)

Coin-Cidental - Arthur Emerson (good to see him listed. He was more the non-packet inventor guy & also the writer of most, if not all patter)

Shaggy Dog Tale - Larry West

Here's How - Walt Maddison (trick name unconfirmed)

Cut-Throat Casino - Ed Hollins

Four Card Trick - Larry West (Yuppers, confirmed)

Six Mix - Larry West (confirmed. Changed from Bill Taylor)


Color Pack - ?

Keepsake - Arthur Emerson

'S Witch Craft - Arthur Emerson

Tell-Tale Timepiece - Arthur Emerson

Pocket Secret-Ary - Arthur Emerson

Flik Flik Painting Book - ?

Cut-Off - ?

New Totals: 36 Packet + 7 non-packet = 43. We're getting close to the ultimate goal of 50.

Question of the day...any truth to the rumour that 'Pride & Joy' was an E & W release?

Finally, as always, feel free to adjust, subtract, add, question or in anyway share. No trivia here is too small. Again, thank you all for your patience with this project.
Message: Posted by: martyjacobs (Jun 21, 2012 05:59AM)
Paul Hallas said:

[quote]Meir told me "Color Monte" should NOT have been credited to Jim Temple as it had earlier appeared in print by someone else and in his latest release puts the historical record straight.[/quote]

Color Monte is almost identical to Bill Elliott's 3 Card Monkey Business. Coincidentally, I just blogged about this here:


There are differences in handling, and the kicker card used is a blank faced card (although a card with green ink on it is also mentioned as an alternative). More importantly, the patter for Color Monte is very similar to the patter that accompanies Bill's trick.

Message: Posted by: martyjacobs (Jun 21, 2012 06:38AM)

Thought you might like [url=http://www.martinsmagic.com/?nd=gallery&tightsearch=1&keywords=Emerson%20and%20West&flag=Emerson%20and%20West]this site[/url], it has some great pictures of a few E & W tricks.

Message: Posted by: Paul (Jun 21, 2012 08:17AM)
Whilst I recall Art Emerson demming a Flik book which was a nice size to go into your pocket I don't think it was an Emerson and West release. Like other dealers I think occasionally they sold one or two other products they thought were good. Of course, I'm open to being proved wrong, but that's how I remember it (and the 'ol memory is not what it was).

Yes, Inert, you can currently obtain both from me. I'll p.m. you.

Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 21, 2012 01:01PM)
Marty...Great blog! I'm signing up shortly. Excellent research on the 'Color Monte' & '3 Card Monkey Business' connection. Your other link made me chuckle a tad (I guess we're both researchers & magic historians huh), as I've already used it to e-mail Andy Martin with a question about the inventors' name for 'Camouflage'. I'll report the answer if he replies. I've also requested Rod McFadden from the stellar Magic Gadget Site to join this thread. He is a helpful, friendly & super knowledgable bloke that can probably contribute a ton of useful info here. I just don't know if he is a member of the Café. We'll have to wait & see the outcome.

Paul...PM has been sent in reply. As for the 'Flik Flik Painting Book', for sure Art didn't invent it, but I believe he miniaturized it to pocket size. As for it being an E & W release, I am currently unable to confirm either way. I have only seen one instance of attributing it to E & W so far. I'm more or less still counting it as such, basically to keep the numbers & research motivation up :) You could definitely be right on this one however.

But a single update today: Non-packet (not cards I mean here)

Passing The Buck - Larry West
Message: Posted by: martyjacobs (Jun 21, 2012 05:34PM)
I think Camouflage is by Ronnay. I found two sites selling it and both listed Ronnay as the creator.

Message: Posted by: Julie (Jun 21, 2012 10:46PM)
Another non-packet trick by Emerson & West is the wooden apparatus for their version of Val Evans' STOP TRICK OF TOMORROW.

Is this the only wooden trick they ever put out?

Message: Posted by: martyjacobs (Jun 22, 2012 11:58AM)
[quote]Is this the only wooden trick they ever put out? [/quote]

No, Keepsake by Art Emerson uses a small wooden coin box. The coin is wrapped in paper, vanishes and then appears back in the box.

Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 22, 2012 12:26PM)
Well Marty, if you say it's so, that's good enough for me. I usually like to triple confirm things in these types of projects, but with the scarcity of E & W info, I've had to settle for double confirmation on several occasions.

Julie?...as in 'mad skills' magic history Julie? Welcome aboard! It's great to hear from you. The pc police requested that I modify my old name around here. Our old posts give me a chuckle due to the name change. If you get a chance, re-read them & I think you'll see what I mean. Thank you for your contribution here. There's those mad skills again. This info was unknown to me. The only version I was aware of was Tannen's plexi type. To answer your original question, E & W also put out a wooden trick named 'Keepsake'. It appears to be a winner & is still readily available at a decent price. I do not own a copy, so I am unable to further review it for you. If E & W have more wooden props, I am currently unaware of them. This project is in many ways a learning process for me. If I find more wood props from them, I'll definitely post it here.

Thanks to the both of you, this thread now has 2 new updates. I totally choked in this department today. Thinkin' I might have researcher burn-out for a bit. If any readers here have any info, please do not hesitate to post. We need the help.


Camouflage - Magic Ronnay

Stop Trick Of Tomorrow - Val Evans

New current totals: 36 + 8 = 44.
Message: Posted by: Julie (Jun 23, 2012 12:07AM)
Hello "Inert" et al :)

For sake of completeness: P&L (Florida incarnation) also made a plastic version of Val Evan's Stop Trick of Tomorrow.

More recently Viking/CW made (makes?) the most beautiful wooden version.

Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 26, 2012 12:27PM)
'Sun salute', Julie. Vikings 'Stop Trick Of Tomorrow' is truly stunning. Don't you find that George Robinson always delivers on quality?

Well, updates are down to mere trickles now. We could be at the upper limit. If anybody knows anything about E & W, please participate.


Ace In The Case - Larry West (unconfirmed that it was a E & W release)
Message: Posted by: dragonash (Jun 26, 2012 04:47PM)
There is one using two "Solo" cups and two dice. I believe it is called "Talking Dice", but I won't be able to verify this for some time.
Message: Posted by: dragonash (Jun 27, 2012 12:59AM)
It definitely is not called "Talking Dice." I'll get back to you when I run across it again.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jun 27, 2012 12:59PM)
A couple of more additions for Art Emerson:

Pegasus Page (Beautiful bizarre/ mentalism piece, icluded on a Richard Osterlind DVD)
Kling Ring (early PK ring, I belive marketed by Emerson)

Dragonash not sure if you are thinking of Dick Zimmerman's "Sure Thing which uses two solo cups and two dice...http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=2199

Message: Posted by: kwarren (Jun 27, 2012 07:10PM)
Hello all,
I have collected E & W for a number of years and have a few additions:

Bottle Glass/Glass Bottle – Peter Kane
Magic Eye – Larry West
Fred Castle’s “Holiday Adventure” (Packet Trick w/jumbo cards)
Fred Castle’s “Magic with Giant Cards” (14 pg. booklet of jumbo card effects)
Vampire Heart – Larry Becker (Non-card effect)

Camouflage – Magic Ronnay (Franz Rosensteiner)
Color Blind – Larry West
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jul 4, 2012 12:59PM)
Thanks to everyone's unwavering assistance & dedication on this pet project, I am proud to write this update. If there is a better or more conclusive listing of Emerson & West's product line, I am unaware of its existence. Personally, I am thrilled with the current results. It is way beyond any expectations I ever harboured on this quest. Thank you all, big time! If any changes are needed or a mistake jumps out at you, please do not hesitate to add a comment.

PACKET: Card Trick Listing

1 Add + IX - Larry West
2 Auto Suggestion - Bob Ostin
3 Bicentennial Card Trick - Nick Trost
4 Bottle Glass / Glass Bottle - Peter Kane
5 Camouflage - Magic Ronnay
6 Cash Galore - ?
7 Coin-Cidental - Arthur Emerson
8 Color Blind - Larry West
9 Color Monte - Jim Temple
10 Cut-Throat Casino - Ed Hollins
11 Dicey - Bob Ostin
12 Di-Sect-Ed Damsel - Peter Kane
13 Eight Ball - Larry West
14 Flipped Out - Ed Hollins
15 Four Card Trick - Larry West
16 Gems - Walt Maddison (this might be aka 'The Jewel Robbery' or it is a seperate trick altogether?)
17 Gourmet Mouse - Larry West
18 Gypsy Curse - Peter Kane
19 Hamman Eggs - Brother John Hamman
20 Here's How - Walt Maddison
21 Holiday Adventure - Fred Castle
22 Invisible Wand - Larry West with Al Cohen
23 Jazz Band - Peter Kane
24 Know Fu-Ling - Larry West
25 Leprechauns - ?
26 Magic Eye - Larry West
27 Mimics - Peter Kane
28 Penetra-Bill - Gene Anthony
29 Rat Traps - Bob White
30 Reflections - Peter Kane
31 Round Trip - Peter Kane
32 Sequence - Larry West
33 Shaggy Dog Tale - Larry West
34 Signature - Trevor Lewis
35 Six Mix - Larry West
36 Soup To Nuts - Jim Callan
37 Sympathetic Cards - Magic Ronnay
38 Tra-Fix - Larry West
39 Trans-Print - Bill Taylor
40 The Whole Thing - Larry West
41 Wild Wild West - Larry West


1 Color Pack - ?
2 Cut-Off - ?
3 Flik Flik Painting Book - ?
4 Keepsake - Arthur Emerson
5 Kling Ring - ?
6 Magic With Giant Cards - Fred Castle
7 Passing The Buck - Arthur Emerson
8 Pocket Secret-Ary - Arthur Emerson
9 Stop Trick Of Tomorrow - Val Evans
10 'S Witch Craft - Arthur Emerson
11 Tell-Tale Timpiece - Arthur Emerson
12 Vampire Heart - Barry Becker

Totals: 41 + 12 = 53 TA DA!!!
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Jul 4, 2012 05:34PM)
Color Pack is by Larry West
Cut-Off appears to be an Emerson & West collaboration. I have this effect and the instructions make no mention of any inventor. It simply outlines the effect first using Arthur’s method and then Larry’s method.

Can someone explain the “Leprechauns” effect? I have a card effect in my collection called Leprechauns but it is not by E&W. It is a Marcoms release. Marcom also released an effect called “The Sheik’s Bequest.”

It was mentioned earlier that magicians collect E&W just like the Tenyo effects. This is true. However, I find the E&W packet tricks more difficult to come by. :-(

Message: Posted by: Paul (Jul 4, 2012 05:39PM)
I'm not sure Glass Bottle/Bottle Glass by Peter Kane was Emerson and West. I believe Peter produced this himself (on plastic card stock) as a tribute to British comedy magician Tommy Cooper. I bought this from Peter himself and don't recall any reference to Emerson and West on the instructions, though no longer have them to check.

Similarly, I would have thought the Fred Castle stuff would more likely have been produced by Edwin Hooper and The Supreme Magic Co. If you still have the booklet (or anyone has) it would probably mention if printed by Supreme inside.

I'd forgotten about Larry Becker's Vampire Heart, but mention of it reminded me of his Haunted House packet effect. Don't think that was Emerson and West produced either, though I either bought it from Art or from Geoff Maltby at Repro Magic who usually stocked the Emerson and West line in the U.K. Larry had a different version of this in print in either "World of Super Mentalism: Vol.1 or vol. 2.

Pretty sure Kling Ring WAS Emerson and West.

Message: Posted by: dragonash (Jul 4, 2012 07:39PM)
On 2012-06-27 13:59, J M Talbot wrote:

Dragonash not sure if you are thinking of Dick Zimmerman's "Sure Thing which uses two solo cups and two dice...http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=2199


Yes, I'm sure that's it. Mr. Emerson was demonstrating it in his booth at a TAOM. I had forgotten he was not the originator. Thank you.

In other news... Flik Flik is a small European magic coloring book type thing with five to eight changes.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Jul 4, 2012 09:29PM)
Hello Paul,

I have the Peter Kane and Fred Castle effects with the original packaging. "Holiday Adventure" and the Peter Kane effect both have "Emerson & West present" printed on them. The "Magic with Giant Cards" by Fred Castle has "Emerson and West - 1981" printed in the lower left corner on the front cover. I was going to upload images but can't get them small enough for the upload.

Did Larry Becker's Hounted House packet effect use picture cards? I collect packet tricks and I'm always on the look out for the older unique effects.

Message: Posted by: Paul (Jul 5, 2012 08:54AM)
Thanks for that info, Kirk. Maybe I had a version Peter produced himself before selling the rights to E & W? I recall using it occassionally in the late eighties at my first restaurant gig.

The Haunted House effect (if that was the title) used alphabet cards that spelled "House" then "Ghost" and eventually the cards became blank as the ghost disappeared. The later, book version of the effect did away with the required envelope, concluded with the packet being cut face up into a letter deck where the cards finally changed to read 'shock' (a packet trick that actually does have pictures of ghosts on the cards is Mark Leveridge's "Spooks").
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jul 11, 2012 01:36PM)
Kirk...sorry I can't help you much with 'Leprechauns'. Just too many versions. Most involve a single disappearing/appearing Leprechaun or pot of gold or tophat or some such thing. Btw, you've had a private message for over a week. When you sign-in, a little PM box should appear...just click it.

Dragonash...that Flik Flik book is pretty cool huh. Ever notice that the 'Alphabet' is upside down after you do the flip? Too bad we'll never know the creator of this copy of the old standard effect. My E & W edition doesn't list a name in the instructions. The instructions appear inside both covers only. Did yours include a seperate sheet by chance?

Paul...awesome books my friend! Both a great read. I've also checked-out several of your videos. Stellar performances all around. Cheers.


I forgot to include 'Ace In The Case' by Larry West in the above list.

Triple Cross - Arthur Emerson (need to confirm it was an E & W release)

New Totals: 43 + 12 = 55
Message: Posted by: dragonash (Jul 12, 2012 05:45PM)
I never had the Flik Flik book. He demonstrated it a lot.

I have just run across an effect called "Chip Dip." The envelope says "Arthur Emerson's Chip Dip." The instructions don't mention the maker.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Jul 13, 2012 10:20AM)
On 2012-07-11 14:36, Inert wrote:
Paul...awesome books my friend! Both a great read. I've also checked-out several of your videos. Stellar performances all around. Cheers.

Glad you enjoyed the books. Hopefully you'll find time to work on some of the effects fully described. One good one to start with is "The World's Oddest Card Trick" in SBD because it can so easily be peronalized or adapted to a specific venue. :)
Message: Posted by: DelMagic (Jul 13, 2012 11:18AM)
Someone was very close in describing the Leprechauns effect.

You have a packet of "20" cards in your hand: 10-Leprechauns and 10-Pots of Gold. The packets are back-to-back.

You count the Leprechauns from the face of the packet out onto the table by dealing them one at a time face-up in a spread out formation. Everyone can see the ten leprechauns. You return them to the packet in your hand, and the leprechaun packet of 10 is returned to its back-to-back position with packet of Gold cards.

You turn the pack over which brings the Pots of Gold cards face up. You then deal 10 Pots of Gold cards face up one at a time onto the table explaining that each leprechaun has his own pot of gold.

Then the Leprechauns go off to play nine pins on the greensward and leave the gold unguarded. A nasty fellow finds one of the pots of gold and steals it. (You pick up a pot of gold from the table and place it into your pocket or some other convenient place.)

The leprechauns return and realize someone has taken a pot of gold. The head leprechaun decides to use magic to get it back. So the head lephrechaun (or the first leprechaun) supervises the others collecting their gold pots. You take one leprechaun from your hand and scoop up one of the nine pots of gold on the table. You do this fairly and repeatedly with each leprechaun card in your hand the pots of gold on the table. In some odd fashion, "10" pots of gold end up with "10" leprechauns.

It is basically the old too many guests for the hotel rooms dilemma, or the too many people for chairs puzzle.

It works well. I've never had anyone figure it out and I used to demonstrate and sell it in a magic shop. Unfortunately it used the lousy, sticky cards that E&W used for some of their effects. I have it at home. I can post some pics if you like.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Jul 13, 2012 12:48PM)
I had Leprechauns but don't recall using it so much. The first time I saw the principle used with cards was Paul Curry's "The Case of The Missing Hat" (last described in "Paul Curry's World's Beyond" but first published in 1965, pre-dating the Emerson and West routine) which used magicians and their top hats as a theme.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Jul 13, 2012 04:12PM)
Hello DelMagic,

The leprechauns effect you described is the once I have (Luckily, my cards are not sticky...yet). However, the one I have is a Marcom's release and NOT E&W. Did E&W release this as well?

Message: Posted by: Paul (Jul 14, 2012 01:37PM)
Pretty sure Emerson and West released it.
Also saw it listed recently in Taurus Magic's used magic list as "Emerson and West's Leprechauns".



The prices shown in brackets are the original retail prices of the tricks. ...... PLUS EMERSON AND WEST'S LEPRECHAUNS - A fun packet trick using cards with ...
Message: Posted by: DelMagic (Jul 14, 2012 10:31PM)
It's been a long time, but I would agree with Paul in that I think it was probably Marcom's effect released by E&W. Just linke Ronnay's Sympathetic Cards, Jim Temple's Color Monte, etc.

I don't have the original packaging or instructions though.

PS: By the way Paul, I just picked up Magic from the Overground on Ebay and it has arrived. I'm looking forward to diving into it.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Jul 15, 2012 06:13AM)
On 2012-07-14 23:31, DelMagic wrote:
It's been a long time, but I would agree with Paul in that I think it was probably Marcom's effect released by E&W. Just linke Ronnay's Sympathetic Cards, Jim Temple's Color Monte, etc.

I don't have the original packaging or instructions though.

PS: By the way Paul, I just picked up Magic from the Overground on Ebay and it has arrived. I'm looking forward to diving into it.
I'm sure you'll find the book a good investment, even though there is a shortage of packet tricks in there, :)
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jul 19, 2012 01:39PM)
Paul...thanks for the head's up on 'The World's Oddest Card Trick' via 'The Very Odd Card' by Martin Lewis. Excellent changes. Very versatile & adaptable too.

I'd also like to thank everyone else for their continued research efforts. The numbers are slowing down, but are still going up somewhat.


Color Pack - Larry West

Cut-Off - Arthur Emerson & Larry West

Chip Dip - Arthur Emerson (awaiting confirmation that it was an E&W release)

Pride & Joy - was not an Emerson & West release. This answer was supplied elsewhere on the Café.

Black & Blue - Larry West (also awaiting confirmation that it was an E&W release)
Message: Posted by: dragonash (Jul 20, 2012 05:00PM)
I just ran across a picture of Emerson and West here:
Message: Posted by: DelMagic (Jul 20, 2012 06:46PM)
I never saw Larry West, but I did see Arthur Emerson run a dealer booth at a convention. He was an excellent demonstrator and he had a marvelous voice and superb diction.
Message: Posted by: fredm (Jul 20, 2012 07:02PM)
While looking thru box of magic,came across.PLACEFACE ACES by Horace Bennett.Not a packet trick,uses a full deck.Came in a red sleve holder.

Message: Posted by: DOCSOOS (Jul 23, 2012 07:49PM)
While working in Jersey at a flea market in 1977 I was given an original hand made version of CIRCULATION. I used it few times and since then stored it in a picture frame. it had colored ink stamps of rings and squares and gimmick made of clear plastic and a blank card taped together. I have many other old ones that I have not seen mentioned here, or could find searching the web. like INK SPOT/STAIN REMOVER, GAMBLE AMBLE or POLOR CARD. Remembering the Oldies, DOC
Message: Posted by: Inert (Aug 1, 2012 03:36PM)
It's just downright excellent, the ongoing contributions around here. I'm truly amazed by everyone's efforts. Kudos to all.

Dragonash...thank you for the photo link. Shot in different times for sure. Without trying to be funny, it reminds me of the good old days & makes me think of comedians like Dick Van Dyke for some unknown reason.

DelMagic...I never did get the chance to meet Mr. Emerson, but all reports match what you have written. A stellar Bloke of the highest order from what I've heard. Definitely a plus to magic in general & a true fellowship member of the fraternity.

Fred...thank you for coming forth with an unknown effect. I appreciate it. Is there any chance you'd be willing to describe the effect here?

Doc...great input on very elusive effects. 4 new items (Or is that old items that are new here?), for the list. Can I talk you into adding the inventor's name for each item?

My sole single find addition is 'Acrobatic Card Extension' by Larry West.

The Grand Total is now past 60. We have hit unchartered waters as far as I can tell. Nowhere have I seen a published list that goes this high. I will break this down into the 2 categories after receiving some requested updates which are needed for clarity in this department.

Finally, Paul, Kirk & John...come on back...you're much needed. :)
Message: Posted by: Paul (Aug 2, 2012 09:13AM)
On 2012-07-23 20:49, DOCSOOS wrote:
While working in Jersey at a flea market in 1977 I was given an original hand made version of CIRCULATION. I used it few times and since then stored it in a picture frame. it had colored ink stamps of rings and squares and gimmick made of clear plastic and a blank card taped together. I have many other old ones that I have not seen mentioned here, or could find searching the web. like INK SPOT/STAIN REMOVER, GAMBLE AMBLE or POLOR CARD. Remembering the Oldies, DOC

They are not mentioned here because they are not Emerson and West. Gamble Amble, for instance, may have been a Tannan release.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Aug 5, 2012 04:04PM)
Do any of you out there have the booklet “Ticks You Can Count On” by Vernes Chesbro and Larry West? It contains the following tricks that all use false counts (Mostly the Elmsley Count):

Face the face
Air mail
Jumping Jack Rabbit Card
The Jack is a joker
Acrobatic Cards
Twisting the acrobats
Rapid Aces
All The Non-Conformists (Martin Gardner)

I believe this book is out of print but it is one to keep a look out for if you collect Emerson & West.

Message: Posted by: Paul (Aug 7, 2012 08:40AM)
Regarding the latter booklet, it was not an Emerson and West release. I believe the rights were held by Chesbro. There was also a sequel.It was probably produced before Larry teamed up with Art Emerson.

Larry also produced another little booklet himself which I have somewhere, I think it was called "On The Corner" though don't have time to check right now. If memory serves, it contained some of his card effects that had previously appeared in his Linking Ring column, but I'm open to correction on that.

Message: Posted by: kwarren (Aug 8, 2012 08:11PM)
You are correct Paul in that it was not an E&W release. I meant to mention that in my post and failed to do so. My bad…as all the young people say now :)

Message: Posted by: KNorkin (Aug 9, 2012 11:04AM)
Does anyone know if Trans Print is still available? My quick search doesn't turn it up.

Out of all the packet tricks I bought in the 70s and 80s -- probably close to two dozen -- Trans Print and Color Monte were the only two I regularly performed. Most I didn't even bother learning once I got into them. Though Eight Ball came close.

Anyway, looked in my magic case today (been out of magic many years, but my grown kids and their SOs are expecting to see some tricks this weekend) and the wallet in which I kept TP and CM is gone. I'm sure I'm the one who took it out who knows when for who knows why -- maybe I wanted to have some tricks with me one night just in case. Whatever. It's gone. I just ordered a replacement Color Monte from Penguin (glad to see it's in Bicycle after all these years). But I'm afraid there's no replacing Trans Print.

Maybe that I've re-bought one of the tricks, the missing wallet will turn up.

Message: Posted by: kwarren (Aug 9, 2012 08:26PM)

It was part of "The Best of Emerson & West Packet Trick Magic" tape 5 with Dan Harlen. I found it here:

My search for the packet trick itself came up empty. Maybe someone here will have a extra one for sale.

Message: Posted by: KNorkin (Aug 10, 2012 11:35AM)
Thanks, Kirk. I still have the instructions -- they were kept separate from the cards. So I don't really need the

I actually found a set of Trans-Print online from someone who has definitely been mentioned in the forum countless times and may be a member. He's got an estate collection of stuff for sale. Sorry to keep it secret, but I didn't buy it yet. ;-) Don't want to lose it. Discussing with him by email some things I have that he could use, which might affect the already reasonable price. And I'm out of town for the weekend, so now this has to wait.

Still wracking my brain trying to remember when or why I removed the wallet with Color Monte and Trans-Print from my case. I mean it's been a long time since I actually did those tricks for anyone. My desk in my home office is a mess. I suppose it could be there, buried under stuff.
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (May 4, 2014 11:20AM)
Just to clarify an earlier point.

The marketing rights for Elmsley's 4 Card Trick were held by Remo Inzani, of Inzani-Henley Magic. THEy were the magic trick supplier to Hamleys in London; long before the days of Marvin's dire, commercialised 'pap'!

To the best of my knowledge, Alex Elmsley's 4 card trick was never sold via Davenports. Their main packet trick was the original version of Roy Walton's Cascade - which originally concluded with two blank-faced cards and two odd backs - rather than the latter version with four odd coloured backs. I preferred the original as, when you think about it, there were TWO finales instead of one.
Message: Posted by: MerlH (May 24, 2014 11:40AM)
I am holding in my hand "Tricks you can count on" by Verne Chesbro and Larry West. It says Second Printing on the cover but no date nor who published it! I bought in 1970 in Karell Fox and ??? magic shop in downtown Detroit. I still do Acrobatic Cards on page 20 regularily. Still one of the best "Twisting the Aces.
Message: Posted by: AidanHeritage (Mar 20, 2015 11:38AM)
Wonder if Arthur ever visits the Café? I've had some help from him recently on Gypsy Curse - have some fond memories of the man, a great demonstrator and was always so good to see on this side of the pond!
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Apr 2, 2015 09:40PM)
Another item was the Pocket Secretary.
Message: Posted by: AidanHeritage (Apr 9, 2015 04:26PM)
I pointed Arthur at this thread (though he doesn't use the Café) and he enjoyed reading it - thought YOU might like this blast from the past (see attachment) from a British Ring convention.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 20, 2015 08:25PM)
Hello AidanHeritage,

I don't see an attachment. Can you add it?

Message: Posted by: Magicray69 (Apr 25, 2015 08:37PM)
I had a packet trick in the 70's as I remember it had a peanut in the shell on some of the cards. Don't really remember the effect but I think it had reference to Jimmy Carter.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (May 5, 2015 08:26PM)
[quote]On Apr 25, 2015, Magicray69 wrote:
I had a packet trick in the 70's as I remember it had a peanut in the shell on some of the cards. Don't really remember the effect but I think it had reference to Jimmy Carter. [/quote]

This packet trick was Nick Trost's - Nuts to Carter. A nice little effect that I own as well.
Message: Posted by: AidanHeritage (Jun 10, 2015 11:32AM)
Spotted that although the system SAYS you can attach, you actually cannot - I'll try to dig the original out, find a home for it, and post that link!
Message: Posted by: fingerflinger (Oct 26, 2015 03:05PM)
I was always a huge fan of Emerson and West packet tricks. I sold lots of them while working as a demonstrator in a magic shop, and performed them myself all the time. I still own a bunch of them. Might just have to dig them out and relearn them. They are lots of fun...
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jun 11, 2017 10:32AM)
Just wanted to mention that The Magic Gadget Site has just listed some hard to find Emerson & West packet tricks. Excellent store, great bloke & a true find for the collector. A hidden gem amongst the big magic dealers.
Message: Posted by: Rattooth (Jul 9, 2017 10:31AM)
I can't find Magic Gadget Site. Any link?? Thank you.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jul 9, 2017 11:35AM)
Hi. Type in http://themagicgadgetsite.com/ When on the site, try searching different ways too. E & W gives some results that Emerson and West doesn't for example. I think it's a 1 man operation. Rod McFadden is the owner. Super helpful fella. Even emailed me some whole routines & extra hands-on experience tips. I just noticed that he even stocks some non-card Emerson solo stuff. I don't mean for this to sound like a commercial, it's just super refreshing to have old school magic products, service & helpfulness. The whole site is like a blast from the past. Enjoy your weekend.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 5, 2018 02:40AM)
I second Inert's enthusiastic recommendation of The Magic Gadget Site. I like Mr. McFadden's sense of humor, and, most of all, his honesty. He writes his own descriptions of the tricks, and will actually say things like, "I don't recommend this for performance; it's really more for collectors." And he's supplied me with routines, too, just as he has for Inert. Visiting his site and corresponding with him is like going to an old-fashioned brick-and-mortar shop.

Now just forget what Inert and I just said -- I want all all those E& W effects for myself! (Seriously, if anyone has The (W)hole Thing or Gem and wants to sell it, I'd be interested.)
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jan 9, 2018 10:49AM)
Cheers Bob G! TMGS still has 1 copy of The (W)hole Thing left in stock.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 9, 2018 11:53AM)
Hi there, Inert. Thanks! I appreciate your calling this to my attention.

Message: Posted by: AidanHeritage (Jun 22, 2018 12:31AM)
Members may wish to know that sadly Arthur Emerson died on 1st June 2018
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Aug 23, 2018 12:52PM)
[quote]On Jun 22, 2018, AidanHeritage wrote:
Members may wish to know that sadly Arthur Emerson died on 1st June 2018 [/quote]

I am just now seeing this. It is sad news indeed. His many packet trick creations provided me with many hours of fun practice in my early years of magic.
He will be missed! :-(
Message: Posted by: Inert (Oct 4, 2018 12:52PM)
Sorry to hear about Mr. Emerson. A golden man from the golden years of packet trick magic. It is only fitting that the latest find is from Arthur Emerson...'International Imports'.
Message: Posted by: dleiber (Jan 8, 2019 03:31PM)
[quote]On Jun 21, 2012, martyjacobs wrote:

Thought you might like [url=http://www.martinsmagic.com/?nd=gallery&tightsearch=1&keywords=Emerson%20and%20West&flag=Emerson%20and%20West]this site[/url], it has some great pictures of a few E & W tricks.

Marty [/quote]

I realize I'm years late to the party here, but still wanted to thank you for such an interesting link. Brought back lots of memories and makes me want to investigate a few other things.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jan 8, 2019 04:36PM)
The one Emerson & West packet trick I would love to find again is Pasteboard Circus.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jan 8, 2019 04:58PM)
Hi Wravyn. Not sure, but I think Pasteboard Circus was by Master Magic
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jan 8, 2019 05:06PM)
Thanks Inert,
Do you remember what the trick was? The one I'm thinking of, the A, 2, 3, & 4 of clubs would turn face up one at a time but they would change color... The ace was red because it was embarrassed, the two turned blue, the green was green and the 4 was yellow.
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jan 8, 2019 05:54PM)
Should be the three was green.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jan 8, 2019 06:13PM)
Sounds like an entertaining winner with lots going on to me Wravyn. Also sounds like there's some humour to it. Always a good combo.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Mar 28, 2019 07:11PM)
Does anyone have an extra Emerson & West - Gems (Walt Maddison) they would be willing to sell?
If so, please send me a PM.
This is one of the few (if not the only effect) I need to complete my collection. :-)
Message: Posted by: Inert (Mar 31, 2019 04:20PM)
Hi kwarren. Checked my sources & I'm sorry to report that I tanked. Best of luck on your quest. If I'm reading your post right, that's got to be one of the most impressive E & W collections around. Well done.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 3, 2019 08:00PM)
When I say I have a nearly complete collection, I really do not have anything concrete to base that on. Other than this site, I have never found any complete listing of Emerson and West effects.
I have around 40 different effects. Gems is the only one mentioned in these posts that I have never seen.
If anyone on the Café has a description of the effect, I sure would like to know what it is. I have searched through all my old magic catalogs, but GEMS is not mentioned in any of them. :-(
I guess I will just keep watching eBay in hopes that it pops up.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Apr 7, 2019 11:31AM)
Hi again kwarren. There is a good chance that 'Gems' may have also been known as 'The Jewel Robbery'. I hope it helps & leads somewhere for you.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 10, 2019 08:55PM)
Thanks for the info Inert. My search continues. :-)
Message: Posted by: 61magic (Apr 11, 2019 02:59PM)
Now that both of the men have passed it would be nice for someone to do a book with their bios and all the collected routines they published. And/or a master set of all their products in a single pack.
It would be interesting to know how the rights to the materials were granted from the various inventors and where they have passed to now.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Apr 14, 2019 12:43PM)
Totally 100% agree with you 61magic. Large project for sure. I'm thinking Richard Kaufman is the man for the job.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Apr 15, 2019 07:32AM)
I also agree with you 61magic.
I learned so many card slights from all those wonderful Emerson and West packet tricks. I love getting them out, working through the routines and going down memory lane reliving my early days of learning card magic. To this day I have a special place in my heart for "good" packet tricks...especially ones with pictures that tell a story (for kids or adult audiences).
Even though I have a good number of the E & W effects, I know nothing of their history. I would love to see something like this in print with a complete listing of their effects along with color pictures, original and expanded routines, etc.
With Arthur and Larry pretty much being the pioneers of card packet magic, I'm really surprised no one has published any books on them. What a valuable addition this would be to any magic library! :-)
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Aug 22, 2019 07:41PM)
So, I was finally able to get my hands on this rare and wonderful Emerson & West packet trick call GEMs (by Walt Maddison)

The basic effect is this:

Count to show 4 cards each with a picture of a closed jewel box.
Turn the cards over and count the cards into a fan to show 4 different colored jewels.
Close the fan and recount the cards into a fan again and one of the jewels is missing.
Repeat to show the 2nd and 3rd jewel missing.
The Red jewel is placed face up on top of the other face down cards and then turned face down on the packet as well.
All 4 cards (jewel boxes) are now shown (front and back) to be empty.
Turn the packet over and count-spread/count the cards into a fan one last time to show all the jewels have magically returned.

I like so many of the E & W packet tricks but I believe I'll place this one in my top 10.
It has a great story line and a lot of magic happens...very entertaining in my opinion.

I've attach images of the packet art and the front and backs of the cards.
Message: Posted by: kwarren (Aug 22, 2019 07:52PM)
Here is the images of the cards for Walt Maddison's GEMS by Emerson & West.
Message: Posted by: bluzman007 (Sep 6, 2020 03:52AM)
Wow, Thanks for this. Brings back so many memories. Sadly in my stupid youth, I disn' realizewhat a goldmine I had with E&W
Due to finances, had to sell most of my magic, circa 70-80's. Most were E&W packet tricks.

I met Art several times, was an absolute delight to watch him pitch all these effects. He knew everyone of them perfectly,

I didn't realize untill it was too late. Mr. Emerson lived right around the corner from me in Colleyville,TX.
Would have been great to reminisce with Art.

Congrats on GEMS. I had it at one time too.....fun trick to perform