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Topic: Could someone please explain...
Message: Posted by: Magix (Oct 17, 2003 10:12AM)
Okay, I'm fairly new to magic (a year) and I'm confused by the way the terms "pass" and "control" are used here at the Café. (I'm mostly a coin guy, I admit it.)

Is there a difference between a pass and a control? Or is a pass just one form of control? If so, what defines a pass?

I know this may seem like nothing more than semantics to some, but I want to get it straight.

Message: Posted by: MagicAndBlackjack (Oct 17, 2003 10:52AM)
A pass is a way of controlling the cards. There are a myriad of controls that you can do to keep track of a card or cards, and a pass is just one of them. The pass is just secretly cutting the deck without the spectator knowing.
Message: Posted by: rgranville (Oct 17, 2003 10:55AM)
I'm mostly a coin guy, I admit it.[/quote]
That's okay, I'm into mentalism...

In the world of magic with cards, [b]control[/b] means to cause a card to be positioned where you want in the deck, usually the top or bottom of the deck, but not always. Notice that definition says nothing about [i]how[/i] you get the card where you want it. You'll frequently read in magic tricks, "Control the card to the top by YFM..." [b]YFM[/b] stands for "[b]Y[/b]our [b]F[/b]avorite [b]M[/b]ethod".

The [b]pass[/b] is a sleight used to control a card "lost" in the middle of the deck. Actually, it's now a family of sleights in the same way palming is now a family of sleights in the world of coins.

If you're interested in learning the pass and other controls, the bibles of card workers are [i]The Royal Road to Card Magic[/i] by Hugard and Braue and the [i]Card College[/i] series by Giobbi. The better introductory books on general magic also cover controls, such as Hay's [i]The Amateur Magician's Handbook[/i], which I never miss a chance to sing the praises of. I know it covers many controls, including the classic pass.
Message: Posted by: Thoughtreader (Oct 17, 2003 01:42PM)
Dear Magix,

Judging only from your comment that you are mostly a coin guy, PLEASE do not fall into the trap of not getting a well rounded knowledge in magic. You do yourself a disservice by knowing anything less than someone else. You would be surprised how many times there can be a cross-over between genre within magic and when someone has such a love of magic, why on earth would you not want to know at least a smattering of "everything" within that realm.

If anything (and if you don't have it) do yourself a favour and work through the [i]Tarbell Course[/i], volume after volume to at least learn all that is in there which WILL give you a much more rounded knowledge within the world of magic, far superior to many others.

PSIncerely Yours,
Paul Alberstat
Message: Posted by: Magix (Oct 17, 2003 03:39PM)
Thanks everyone, I understand now.

BTW Paul, I am working to get a more rounded knowledge base. But it's a slow process, especially for someone like me who does magic as a hobby rather than a profession. Practice and/or study sessions are sometimes days apart.

Thanks again.
Message: Posted by: redstreak (Oct 17, 2003 09:28PM)
The pass is a way to cut the deck without the person knowing it. It can be used for a control or other things.
Message: Posted by: Jason Fleming (Oct 24, 2003 09:53AM)
If you learn the pass from Paul Harris, be sure to use the phrase "Hi there, baby." Sometimes she won't throw her drink at you, which is how you know the pass was successful. :love: