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Topic: Time travel confusion
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jul 29, 2012 12:31AM)
Okay, I know some of you know this. How many Marty McFlys existed at one time? I know of two, the one that went from 1955 to 1985 then Marty ran up to marft, wait, three martys sharing one brain or different dimensions. What about 1885 Marty? Please explain this, thank you.
Message: Posted by: critter (Jul 29, 2012 12:49AM)
Multiverse theory. I learned about it from Jet Li's "The One." Soon, one of the Marty McFlys will kill all of the other Marty McFlys and become the One Marty McFly who rules the... Huh. I never realized how derivitive The One is of Highlander until I typed this.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jul 29, 2012 01:12AM)
What abou the Marty Marty saw go back who 2015 Marty saw in in 1955 while in 1985 go back so there seems to be a Marty loop in there.
Message: Posted by: PaulPacific (Jul 29, 2012 01:34AM)
Not to derail this thread, but:

On a related note, if you are a fan of time-travel novels, then might I suggest a favourite of mine. It is "The Anubis Gates" by Tim Powers.

It is absolutely enchanting. Thank me later.

http://www.sfreviews.net/anubis_gates.html
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jul 29, 2012 02:21AM)
Time travel confuses me and reading about it would mess me upcompletely.

I ponder things like if I bury a tv will the political ads help plants grow.
Message: Posted by: hoodrat (Jul 29, 2012 02:33AM)
All of us time travel every day. As we speed down the freeway in our car or on the bus to work, time does slow down for us a very, very, very tiny bit compared to our companions who stayed at home. When you arrive at your destination, you will be a millionth of a billionth of a second younger than your companion who stayed at home. Of course, if you traveled closer to the speed of light while going to work, this time difference would become quite obvious -- you will have aged only a few minutes while your companion at home will have aged centuries. Einstein's theories of relativity and special relativity. Interesting stuff. Really makes you think about reality and what aspects of reality we presume to be unchanging, static, and solid.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jul 29, 2012 03:42AM)
Hoodrat, you are not welcome to Hot August Nights for tormenting me.
Message: Posted by: R.S. (Jul 29, 2012 08:44AM)
Hey, didn't we already have this thread in 2013?

Ron
Message: Posted by: Cliffg37 (Jul 29, 2012 09:21AM)
There was and is only one Marty McFly. In the films he was in close proximity to himself several times, but they were simply Marty's at different ages. When one traveled back to where another was, that was no different than driving somewhere to see a friend. If one had come face to face with another, there would have been no great cataclysm. Just an older McFly having to explain to a confused younger one, what was going on. There was an episode of "Smallville" where an older, already superman, Clark meets a younger one. They got it right. The older one knew what was going on and had to explain to the younger one. The older was impatient and contemptuous of the younger not getting it.
Message: Posted by: Salguod Nairb (Jul 29, 2012 12:12PM)
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˙ǝuop pɐɥ ɟɟıq ʇɐɥʍ pǝɹǝʌoɔsıp puɐ ǝɯıʇ uı ʞɔɐq pǝןǝʌɐɹʇ p’ʎǝɥʇ ǝɔuo ǝɹnʇnɟ ǝɥʇ oʇ uɹnʇǝɹ oʇ ssǝןʇınɹɟ ǝq pןnoʍ ʇı sǝʌǝıןǝq ɔop ʎɥʍ puɐ '(ǝuıןǝɯıʇ ǝןƃuıs ɐ uo pןnoʍ ʇı sɐ) ǝuıɥɔɐɯ ǝɯıʇ uǝןoʇs ǝɥʇ uı sɹɐǝddɐsıp ɟɟıq ʇɐɥʇ ʇuɐʇsuı ʇɔɐxǝ ǝɥʇ uı ɔop puɐ ʎʇɹɐɯ punoɹɐ ǝƃuɐɥɔ ʇ’usǝop pןɹoʍ ǝɹıʇuǝ ǝɥʇ ʎɥʍ ɹoɟ uoıʇɐuɐןdxǝ uɐ sɹǝɟɟo ʎɹoǝɥʇ sıɥʇ


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Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jul 29, 2012 12:45PM)
Understand that I mean this in the nicest possible way...

I really [i]really[/i] hate you Sal.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jul 29, 2012 12:46PM)
Marty saw himself go back in time at the end of part one, is there just loops? There haas to be at least two Martys.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hilly (Jul 29, 2012 01:01PM)
[quote]On 2012-07-29 03:21, MagicSanta wrote:
I ponder things like if I bury a tv will the political ads help plants grow.[/quote]
No. Too much poison in their words.
Message: Posted by: Salguod Nairb (Jul 29, 2012 01:20PM)
I made a chart so it is easier to comprehend.

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/zz59ebc0ca.jpg
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jul 29, 2012 04:12PM)
I knew someone could explain it.
Message: Posted by: Steve_Mollett (Jul 29, 2012 06:19PM)
Oh, I understand--no, I don't. ;)
Message: Posted by: kid iowa (Jul 29, 2012 09:20PM)
On a time travel note, Stephen King's 11/23/63 was an awesome book in my opinion. If you guys could go back in time to either try and stop an event or to just observe an event, what would it be?
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jul 29, 2012 09:39PM)
Remember that movie where the carrier went back to ww2 8n time for the 0earl Harbor attack? The one officer who went back in time was met later on by himself. So there must be two Martys at minimum.
Message: Posted by: PaulPacific (Jul 29, 2012 10:39PM)
Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3-jtxZ3QCc
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jul 30, 2012 12:01AM)
Can't watch youtube
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jul 30, 2012 12:20AM)
[quote]
On 2012-07-29 13:12, Salguod Nairb wrote:
.emit gnitanigiro rieht ni daerht deretla eht revocsid dna emit ni kcab levart yeht litnu ecnereffid eht eciton t’nod coD dna ytraM .ytilaer lanigiro sih morf tnereffid ytilaer etanretla na etaerc dna daerht rehtona ot pmuj yllautca dluoc eh ,emit ni kcab slevart ffiB dlo nehW

.enilemit thgiarts eno gnola gnilevart reven tub ,gnigrevnoc semitemos ,snoitcerid tnereffid ni tuoba gnivom sdaerht suoirav htiw ,emit fo ”yrtsepat“ a si efil taht yas s’teL .xob eht edistuo kniht s’teL



˙ǝuop pɐɥ ɟɟıq ʇɐɥʍ pǝɹǝʌoɔsıp puɐ ǝɯıʇ uı ʞɔɐq pǝןǝʌɐɹʇ p’ʎǝɥʇ ǝɔuo ǝɹnʇnɟ ǝɥʇ oʇ uɹnʇǝɹ oʇ ssǝןʇınɹɟ ǝq pןnoʍ ʇı sǝʌǝıןǝq ɔop ʎɥʍ puɐ '(ǝuıןǝɯıʇ ǝןƃuıs ɐ uo pןnoʍ ʇı sɐ) ǝuıɥɔɐɯ ǝɯıʇ uǝןoʇs ǝɥʇ uı sɹɐǝddɐsıp ɟɟıq ʇɐɥʇ ʇuɐʇsuı ʇɔɐxǝ ǝɥʇ uı ɔop puɐ ʎʇɹɐɯ punoɹɐ ǝƃuɐɥɔ ʇ’usǝop pןɹoʍ ǝɹıʇuǝ ǝɥʇ ʎɥʍ ɹoɟ uoıʇɐuɐןdxǝ uɐ sɹǝɟɟo ʎɹoǝɥʇ sıɥʇ


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Message: Posted by: PaulPacific (Jul 30, 2012 12:38AM)
¡sıɥʇ ǝʞıl ʇı pıp ǝɥ ʞuıɥʇ I ʎllɐnʇɔ∀
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Jul 30, 2012 12:44AM)
¿sıɥʇ ǝʞıן ʇı op ʇou ʎɥʍ

http://www.fliptext.org/
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jul 30, 2012 02:10AM)
[quote]
On 2012-07-30 01:44, mastermindreader wrote:
¿sıɥʇ ǝʞıן ʇı op ʇou ʎɥʍ

http://www.fliptext.org/
[/quote]

¡qoq 'sʞuɐɥʇ
Message: Posted by: spatlind (Jul 30, 2012 04:34AM)
http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-best-time-time-travel-movies

My favourite is Primer, #4 on the list
Message: Posted by: Salguod Nairb (Jul 30, 2012 06:19AM)
Boq sı ɐ ןןıʞzznq˙
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (Jul 30, 2012 08:07AM)
(: ˙˙˙pɹɐoq sıɥʇ ɹoɟ puǝ ǝɥʇ ɟo buıuuıbǝq ǝɥʇ ʎןqɐqoɹd sı sıɥʇ ˙˙˙ou 'ɥo
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jul 30, 2012 09:08AM)
Ok, stop it... just, stop it.
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (Jul 30, 2012 09:17AM)
[quote]
On 2012-07-30 10:08, ed rhodes wrote:
Ok, stop it... just, stop it.
[/quote]

It's a time travel thing... You wouldn't understand...
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jul 30, 2012 10:36AM)
Just turn you monitor upside down, and view it in a mirror. Duh...
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (Jul 30, 2012 11:05AM)
Since I have gone back in time, the reflection hasn't yet occurred, so I can't see anything!
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jul 30, 2012 07:58PM)
There was an authorized sequel to The Time Machine.

The problem is more for the author to contrive why his characters don't recall things that the reader would expect.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Aug 3, 2012 02:22PM)
I notice no one's mentioned David Gerrold's 'The Man Who Folded Himself.' Gets really convulted toward the end, can't tell you more without spoilers.
Message: Posted by: GlenD (Aug 3, 2012 04:16PM)
That's it, I'm going to ban Sizzler!
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Aug 3, 2012 05:12PM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-03 15:22, ed rhodes wrote:
I notice no one's mentioned David Gerrold's 'The Man Who Folded Himself.'...
[/quote]

Perhaps that's due to the self interaction notion being covered pretty well by Heinlein back in 1958 in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%94All_You_Zombies%E2%80%94]this[/url] story?
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Aug 9, 2012 10:52PM)
That story, the trick was that you didn't know what was going on till the last page. (Which was a good thing.)
David's story, he was trying to deal with the social aspect (or lack thereof) of being a time traveler so he wasn't going for the O. Henry style surprise.