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Topic: Just ropes dvd`s????
Message: Posted by: startingout (Aug 31, 2012 08:02AM)
Like to take the opportunity to say hello from the UK.
Just started off in using ropes, but like most, indecisive on what to choose?
As I am only a hobbyist, only perform infront of few friends family, work collegues etc, no stage or anything.
Looking around there is a magnitude of material out there, but as most on a budget, so cannot keep going out buying every dvd available. Not keen on using gimmicks, mainy impromptu, examinable materials.
Have watched some demos, the one that strikes my eye id Richard Sanders, fibre optics extended.
Just purchased, aldo colombini roped in dvd.
Some others to mention jeremy pei, but having looked this is a non examinable routine.
If any one can help and point me in the right direction, would be appreciated.
Message: Posted by: Julie (Aug 31, 2012 04:56PM)
You might want to be on the look out for a DVD of George Sands.

His son has re-issued his books and VHS.

Julie
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Aug 31, 2012 05:01PM)
As you said, you cannot afford to keep going out and buying DVD's and such. You have the one everyone is "on board" with so you can stop and just learn Fiber Optics. That is all you need.

If you just have to spend your "budget money" then look at Daryl's complete course on rope magic on DVD.

Daryl's Expert Rope Magic Made Easy, Vol. 1-2-3.

http://www.daryl.net/category.php?cat_id=80

There is only one other magicians rave about, salvano.

http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=93_94_7&products_id=112018

get the Enclopedia of Rope Magic by Stewart James.

These above items mentioned should keep you busy for about 3 years of learning and practicing rope magic.
Message: Posted by: Yellowcustard (Aug 31, 2012 05:08PM)
I started of with Fiber optics. This is a great routine people love it. But I did feel it was just those moves and adding or changing any thing was hard. So I got Daryl 3 DVD set. This not only add lot o it. Also gAve me lots of other stuff.

also the book Abbott encyclopaedia of rope magic is well worth it as well.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Aug 31, 2012 05:15PM)
Daryl's "Expert Rope Magic Made Easy" is a three DVD set which is the absolute best rope magic instructional videos ever made.
Message: Posted by: startingout (Aug 31, 2012 08:57PM)
Hello
Just to say thankyou for the replys plenty food for thought, again a big thanks for taking the time to reply...
Message: Posted by: magicians (Aug 31, 2012 10:00PM)
Unfortunately so many guys have used Sands work that you wind up using his. Fortunately, those who use Sands in routines, have a better tutorial of his work than George or his son left us.
Daryl is my choice but his is other peoples' work done well.

I have Dances with Ropes plus an original rope DVD available.
Message: Posted by: magicdano (Feb 20, 2013 12:47AM)
I just saw a lecture at Ring 96 by Phil Van Tee. He has an excellant DVD out and has good patter with it. The DVD is not fancy but has a few great rope trick on it.
Message: Posted by: philvantee (Feb 20, 2013 03:42PM)
Thanks, Dan, for the positive mention. To say that the DVD is not fancy is an understatement.
I do, however, look forward to hearing if you are able to follow, learn from, and eventually end up using any of that material. I use every bit of it myself.

To, "startingout", I took note of your hoped for aspects, including 'examinable materials'.
Made me think of a routine called "Lightning Link" (and subsequent "Lightning Unlink") that I found in an old 'Pallbearer's Review' (October 1973, and, later, simplified in March 1974 issue - page 719).
I discovered it in a detailed search of old Magic Castle Library periodicals.

It is minimal, quick and direct. I use it all the time, and there is nothing hidden or extra other than a ring and one piece of rope.
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Feb 21, 2013 05:35PM)
I like to point out the dvd from salvano called SALVANO ROPES vol.9 the greater magic video library. his gracefull manner makes the ropes blend together.
for some magical rifenement look for this dvd, at steven magic symposium.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 21, 2013 11:25PM)
I would also suggest the two volume Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Feb 23, 2013 01:20PM)
Throw in the Stewart James book, the Karl Fulves book, the Tarbell course and we just about have this subject covered.
Message: Posted by: LeoH (Apr 4, 2013 03:47PM)
I have just about all of the above resources. If I could only choose one, it would be Fiber Optics Extended.
Message: Posted by: madelaine (Apr 15, 2013 01:47AM)
You may find Tabary's 'Rope magic of Tabary':vols 1 and 2 - available on the one dvd....generally available ....has a European under-statement about it...plus, some first class acting/presentation. I find his teaching clear, simple and straight-forward.
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Apr 15, 2013 08:44AM)
In 1946, I read Ralph W. Hull's "Fifteen Minutes With A Piece of Rope", and have used some of that material ever since.
--Hull wasn't 'just a card man'!

Later that year, Roy Shrimplin tipped me the work on Ovette's "Repeat Knots". --This requires a minor pre-set, but when the effect is over, the rope is 'clean'. Abbott still sells this.

In 1951, I traded a guy a vanishing knot (from HULL) for the "Mosquito" or as I call it now: the "Norwegian YO YO". Denny Loomis included me doing it in his "Knot Routine" tape (which is well worth studying.)

in 1954,Jack Chanin and I had a session on rope, and I've used some of that material since! It has been in my lecture for years.

In 1959, I bought ($1.00) Professor's Nightmare from old friend Gene Gordon. It didn't get into the show until 1971, but it has been 'in' ever since.

I occasionally use parts of George Sand's Ropesational, in my ILLUSION routine.

The above 'stuff' has helped me make a living all my life. The only set up is for the Ovette knot. (5 seconds)

Occasionally, I use the 'ONE TWO ONE' rope, but that's a gaffed item and wont fit the OP's needs.
For several years, I used a version of Ken Allen's "If You Like It". --Great bit,(combination of Germaine's c/r and Victor's c/r, etc.) but needs some set up.

I think that most of the material in Hull's 15 Minutes is covered very well by Daryl. Yes, it's a compilation of "old stuff', but Daryl does an excellent job. He gets it 'all' in those tapes! (Well, almost all!)

I hope that this is helpful.

I've enjoyed Tabary's routine and the new Sander's bit, but I aint gonna change NOW!
Message: Posted by: John Long (May 5, 2013 03:40PM)
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On 2013-02-20 16:42, philvantee wrote:

To, "startingout", I took note of your hoped for aspects, including 'examinable materials'.
Made me think of a routine called "Lightning Link" (and subsequent "Lightning Unlink") that I found in an old 'Pallbearer's Review' (October 1973, and, later, simplified in March 1974 issue - page 719).
I discovered it in a detailed search of old Magic Castle Library periodicals.

It is minimal, quick and direct. I use it all the time, and there is nothing hidden or extra other than a ring and one piece of rope.
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Possibly not the same, but I found 2 tricks by those exact names in Fulves' The Magic Book. Attributed to A Kojima: "The ends of a piece of rope are openly and genuinely knotted together. Holding the rope in one hand and a ring in the other, the magician causes the ring to instantly link itself onto the center of the rope"

Fulves' apparently worked out a variation that allows both a linking and an unlinking. I've not tried these, do you have a video clip of this?

John

Posted: May 5, 2013 4:49pm
"cannot keep going out buying every dvd available"

So I would recommend that you buy DVD's that are spelled B O O K s

Wilson's Complete Course, Fulve's Self Working Rope Magic, Ency. of Rope Tricks if your really excited about rope magic (which is a compilation of the 3 individual volumes Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks; the Tarbell series also has a lot of rope magic.

You will get sooooo much more magic this way, but you will need to work on developing your own routining.

John
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (May 14, 2013 04:03PM)
If we are going to name our favorite rope references I must add Shigeo Takagi, John Guastaferro, and the great George Sands too.
Message: Posted by: frankvomit (May 19, 2013 08:16AM)
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On 2012-08-31 18:01, Bill Hegbli wrote:
As you said, you cannot afford to keep going out and buying DVD's and such. You have the one everyone is "on board" with so you can stop and just learn Fiber Optics. That is all you need.

If you just have to spend your "budget money" then look at Daryl's complete course on rope magic on DVD.

Daryl's Expert Rope Magic Made Easy, Vol. 1-2-3.

http://www.daryl.net/category.php?cat_id=80






There is only one other magicians rave about, salvano.

http://www.stevensmagic.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=93_94_7&products_id=112018

get the Enclopedia of Rope Magic by Stewart James.

These above items mentioned should keep you busy for about 3 years of learning and practicing rope magic.
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would just like to add that I bought Daryl's set the downloads at Morresey magic it is and incredible set. if you buy that and fibreoptics that should give you all the info you need to create your own thing. one thing that should be mentioned is fibreoptics is an already established routine so there is not a whole lot you can do with it by itself without it not looking like fibreoptics. but (and this is what I'm working on) I you can take some of fibreoptics and blend it with some of Daryls ideas I think you can come up with something quite orrigional with your own signature on it which is one of things about magic that I have the most fun with. mish mashing thins together to make something that's mine or as close to being mine as possible.
Message: Posted by: motown (May 19, 2013 10:05AM)
Daryl's DVDs are excellent.
Tabary also has a few very good rope DVDs. http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/733
Pavel has a lot great rope magic on his DVD.
Message: Posted by: wally (Apr 29, 2020 08:43AM)
Does anyone know if the rope with four ends is on Salvanosale dvd. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 29, 2020 09:32AM)
Wally, I doubt it, but you can email the address on the website, Salvano Jr. sells all the DVDs. He will respond to inquires.
Message: Posted by: wally (Apr 30, 2020 07:44AM)
Not responding from 3 days ago,
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 1, 2020 09:56AM)
Wally, then I take it, that he probably doesn't know what you are talking about. He always answered my inquiries.

I hope you said more then what you usually do here on the Café.