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Topic: Books about Bizzare Magic
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Oct 27, 2003 07:45PM)
I have recently become interested in Bizzare Magic.
What books would be esential for my magic library?
Advice where from to purchase such books would be appreciated.

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Message: Posted by: rgranville (Oct 27, 2003 08:33PM)
[i]Capricornian Tales[/i] by Christian Chelman should be available from any well-stocked magic shop. [i]The Book of Haunted Magick[/i] by Rick Maue can be obtained from dealers, or directly from Mr. Maue's website. (Click [url=http://www.deceptionsunlimited.com]here[/url].) Anabelle's ebook [i]Seven Past Midnight[/i] is a nice example of creative thinking. You can get it from Alexandre's website [url]http://www.EyesandMinds.com[/url] as well as Alexandre's ebooks on bizarre. Docc Hilford's works, particularly [i]Sign of Four, Band of the Hand,[/i] and [i]H.P. Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness,[/i] are good and available from any magic dealer. [i]Life, Death & Other Card Tricks[/i] by Robert Neale will be of help. If you're a member of the SAM, their monthly magazine has a bizarre article every month by Brother Shadow.

The point of bizarre magic isn't the trick, but the dramatic mood you create with a story. Don't look to the books of others to give you those stories, much less bizarre "tricks". Use their examples as an inspiration to create your own stories.
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Message: Posted by: preston91 (Oct 28, 2003 07:44AM)
Peter Marucci's lecture notes "Bizzare Magic" is an excellent source of simple but effective effects, most suitable for walk around....
Paul
Message: Posted by: Mark Rough (Oct 28, 2003 08:13AM)
Check here:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=33847&forum=14&25

Mark
Message: Posted by: ptbeast (Oct 28, 2003 10:53AM)
The above thread (thanks lastnitesfun) contains a great list. For those new to bizarre magick I highly reccomend Rick Maue's 'Haunted Magick', Black Hart's 'Black Book', Steven Minch's 'Lovecraftian Ceremonies', and David Parr's 'Brain Food'.

These books contain effects that are easy to perform, but more importantly give you a good insight on putting together a bizarre routine.

Welcome to the fold. Let us know what you are working on...

Dave
Message: Posted by: truthteller (Oct 28, 2003 11:49AM)
MAny years ago I arranged and hosted a symposium on bizarre magic for the TAOM. Craig Snader spoke on the history of Bizarre magic literature. For that event, he compiled an Annotated Bibliography of Bizarre Magic, a list of almost every book printed on the subject. I believe H and R magic may still have copies.

http://www.magicbookshop.com
Message: Posted by: DanielGreenWolf (Oct 29, 2003 12:35AM)
The recently released "Mystery School" Book is a great resource for bizarre magic and magic in general. Check it out!


:comply: If you don't, we'll be watching. :comply:

Not really, but it's still recommended.

---Malak
Message: Posted by: Sam Haine (Oct 29, 2003 08:12PM)
Greetings,

The ecently released Scherezade by Borodin and The Practitioner by Gene Poinc are both fun books to read. The former has more effects to build. The latter has bizarre versions of pieces you may already own.

My favorite remains the Invocation and New Invocation.

Also, another overlooked gem is Smagorad by Laub and Inglese.

Best Wishes for This Holiday Season,
Sam Haine
Message: Posted by: rickmagic1 (Oct 29, 2003 10:48PM)
I don't think I've yet seen two of the best books on the subject:
1)Strange Ceremonies
2)Spirit Theater

Both by Eugene Burger
Rick
Message: Posted by: Walon (Oct 30, 2003 09:37PM)
I like "Strange Ceremonies", "Laughing Souls", and "Demons, Darklings and Doppelgangers". Throw in a few of Corinda's ideas from "13 Steps" and fun comes in kegs.
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Message: Posted by: Mark Strivings (Oct 30, 2003 09:55PM)
[quote]
On 2003-10-28 12:49, truthteller wrote:
MAny years ago I arranged and hosted a symposium on bizarre magic for the TAOM. Craig Snader spoke on the history of Bizarre magic literature. For that event, he compiled an Annotated Bibliography of Bizarre Magic, a list of almost every book printed on the subject. I believe H and R magic may still have copies.

http://www.magicbookshop.com
[/quote]
I didn't know that this resource even existed until I read about it here. I immediately went to the H&R website to see if it was there. Lo and behold it was. I ordered it and it arrived today. What a fabulous resource! Ton's of great information in this slim but very pregnant volume. My bizarre library is pretty good, but I can immediately see several tomes that I ust start looking for. Thanks for the reference on this!

BTW I miss Craig. He was a great guy.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Oct 30, 2003 10:15PM)
Peo,
You might want to check out my monthly Bizarre Bazaar column in Visions (www.online-visions.com). No password needed and, best of all, it's free!
There's a ton of other good material in it, too.
cheers,
Peter Marucci
showtimecol@aol.com
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Message: Posted by: StrangeMagick (Oct 31, 2003 06:13AM)
A friend of mine, Joe Lantiere, has a more complete bibliography of Bizarre Magic Books and periodicals. He also lists books and periodicals on Seance work.

Here's the link:

http://members.aol.com/Lantiere/booklist.htm

Happy Samhain all!

Magickally,
Dave Birtwell
Message: Posted by: illusionfreak (Nov 10, 2003 09:29PM)
Check out the re-release of Swami-Mantra...If it's still available...really good stuff in it.
Message: Posted by: Walon (Nov 10, 2003 11:02PM)
Awhile back I was sifting through book recommendations and I remember coming across a book on bizarre magic which utilized Wonder Words, and contained one particular effect in which the volunteer actually perceived time slowing down and stopping.

Does anyone happen to know offhand what book that might be? If it helps, it was on a UK website and the book went for about 30 pound.

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: The Curator (Nov 11, 2003 01:32AM)
I'm (very) proud and happy to let you know that "Compendium Sortilegionis" has been published. A sequel to "Legendes urbaines" available at http://www.slatkine.com
For French readers only... :carrot: :cucumber: :carrot: :pepper:
Message: Posted by: kaytracy (Nov 11, 2003 08:59AM)
I suppose I must now learn another language!
Mr. Chelman! your books are quite exquisite, I only wish more of them were in English for us multi-lingual impaired! (I can deal with the archaeology books form Europe, they have many many pictures!)
Message: Posted by: Caleb Strange (Nov 11, 2003 12:36PM)
Walon, the book you're thinking of is Luke Jermay's 'Building Blocks'. You can order it here:

http://www.alakazam.co.uk/acatalog/Hot_List_1.html

Regards,

Caleb Strange.
Message: Posted by: montz (Nov 20, 2003 11:23AM)
Ahoy! I'd also recommend Alexandre's new ebook, available from http://www.eyesandminds.com

I reviewed it in the reveiw section a while back... It's called "Secret Window".

Hope that helps!

Failing that, check out http://www.underground-collective.com for a rather excellent effect called Henry Sugar...

If I wasn't so modest... I'd be perfect!

:angelflying:
Message: Posted by: Anabelle (Nov 20, 2003 04:19PM)
I've read Henry Sugar and I think it's awesome! I think Alexandre's work is inspiring as well as Luke Jermay's, Brother Shadow's, and Docc Hilford's among a few others! Peter's column is very interesting too!



Anabelle :giving:
Message: Posted by: sweetcarl (Nov 21, 2003 06:17AM)
[quote]
On 2003-11-11 02:32, The Curator wrote:
I'm (very) proud and happy to let you know that "Compendium Sortilegionis" has been published. A sequel to "Legendes urbaines" available at http://www.slatkine.com
For French readers only... :carrot: :cucumber: :carrot: :pepper:
[/quote]
Anyone familiar with Christian Chelman's other works would be well advised to get hold of a copy of his new book, "Compendium Sortilegionis". It really is a most amazing collection of magic for the thinking magician. And it has the kind of design and production values worthy of a classy coffee table tome.

It's so good, it's even worth learning to read French just so you can get access to his amazing and thought-provoking routines.
Just last night, I had a rare opportunity to see Christian perform two sets (the first close-up, the second bizarre) for a small group of 20 people in the atmospheric cellar of a wineshop in Brussels. The close-up set moved from strength to strength, culminating in his astonishing cups & balls routine that left the entire audience gasping with amazement. Absolutely beautiful. The truly amazing thing is that this very routine is published in his new book. It is easily worth ten times the price of the book, when you think of the stupendous amount of effort he has put into this masterpiece.

The second set featured what I can only describe as his lyrical 'storytelling magic' (a far better and more accurate description than 'bizarre magic', in my opinion). The set was over an hour long and he had the audience entranced throughout.

OK, enough of this lavish praise: just do whatever it takes to get a copy of this book and learn to read it. It is a definitive work.

Carl
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Nov 21, 2003 09:36AM)
Anything by Tony Andruzzi (MAsklyn ye Mage). The Invocation compendium is essential reading. Cantrip Codex by Doc Shiels and anything by Charles Cameron would also be necessary. Swami/Mantra and, of course Seance (the collection is incredible) are near the top of my list as well. And yes, I have a large number of these.

Of all of them, the Invocation collection is probably the best resource after one has read Corinda's 13 Steps to Mentalism, with Swami/Mantra and Seance coming in tied for second place.

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
Message: Posted by: Markus Pocus (Nov 22, 2003 09:22AM)
Have you read Ian Adair's 30 Wonderfully Wibbly Bizarre Tricks Volume 3? It Is Great. Edwin is reprinting it when he has time.

:magicrabbit:

Marcus
Message: Posted by: rcad (Nov 23, 2003 08:35AM)
Although I may be wrong, all those books sound like they teach specific tricks and/or routines within the bizarre magic realm. Since I know nothing of bizarre magic and have never seen any bizarre magic performed, it makes me wonder if there is a book that gives the reader an overview of what we can find in bizarre magic? I'm not looking for tricks but rather presentation styles.

Richard
Message: Posted by: Mark Rough (Nov 24, 2003 05:50AM)
Try Eugene Burger's Strange Ceremonies for an overview of bizarre magic.

Mark
Message: Posted by: rcad (Nov 24, 2003 07:26AM)
Thanks lastnitesfun! I'll put that one on my list for sure then!

Richard
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Nov 25, 2003 09:47AM)
Eugene's book is a must read and I'm kicking myself for not having put it on my list (Sorry Eugene!).

Actually, the Compleat Invocation has numerous articles on performance styles for the bizarrist within it's pages, and Tony used to do the Shuttered Room comumn(IIRC), where he would talk about such things (along with many others as well).

Seance, which is a compendium of the late, lamented magazine dedicated to spiritualistic and ghostly presentations has a LOT of material on doing spooky and scary performance work as well.

In fact, one of the contributors was a former professional medium at Cassadega, so he tips a lot of the inside stuff from the professional reader's side - and a lot of it ain't pretty - but it IS effective!

Hope this helps!

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarro.com
Message: Posted by: The Curator (Nov 25, 2003 01:26PM)
Seance is a wonderful reading !
And Mary Tomich's Altar Flame, a must.
Message: Posted by: chmara (Nov 25, 2003 11:19PM)
So-- who has a copy of Seance they wish to sell -- I have been looking for several months after missing one at Books By Post.

Gregg Chmara
chmara@gain.com :bawl:
Message: Posted by: rcad (Nov 26, 2003 08:38AM)
I'm having problems findind Eugene Burger's Strange Ceremonies... Anyone know where I could get a copy?

Richard
Message: Posted by: kaytracy (Nov 26, 2003 09:11AM)
Rcad
You have picked a hard topic to pin down cleanly, for information on the styles of presentation, well, I guess it is really about as diverse as the presnter. You will get some ideas from the postings here, and from checking the sites of many of these posters. There are some good articles on presentation style and character establishing in articles at Dragonskull, Peter Marucchi's lectures online, McBrides online newletter, and even our humble effort at Bizarremagic.com

I will say that if you look into the Invocation book, there is much more than just tricks, though the presenters/performers set their style a number of years ago, the ideas they share still hold up.

Take a look at something in your life, how do you approach it. It seems strange, but take cooking as an example, some folks love to cook, you know that just looking at them, they are at ease with it, they can follow the recipie with great success, and they are not afraid to experiment, despite the possible unfortunate outcomes, while others fear the unknown nuance of mixing spices and foods- what happens if the measure is nto perfect? There is real fear and anxiety. I think the Bizarrist needs to look on their craft in a like manner, you will do it, but how will your bizarre mage personna approach it? Are you always in control? will you "experiment" with known "spells"? do you fear these unknown things, but know they are a required thing to do?are you a "dabbler in the black arts" for the rush?
I do not have the ability to hide behind a beard (except crossdressing at Renn Faire) and I am not even close to being the sexy thang Ms. Annabelle is, so I have to approach things from an altogether different, and eccentric, angle!
To use "Buffy-TVS and Angel" as a jumping point, are you the Wesley? the Willow? Angel? Fred? Giles? Buffy's mom? take a look at how each approaches the situation in the show.
not sure if this helps you out, but good luck!
Message: Posted by: rcad (Nov 26, 2003 09:22AM)
Kaytracy,

I understand and agree with everything you say. From the begining I've known that I'd be interested in experimenting but before I spend so much time reinventing the wheel, I'd like to know what others have done. Now maybe books aren't the answer. Maybe I should get my hands on DVDs showing bizarre performances... But do such DVDs exist?

Richard
Message: Posted by: StrangeMagick (Nov 27, 2003 09:17AM)
Richard:

Unfortunately most of the Bizarre Magick related performances are on Video and not yet available on DVD.
Here are a couple of locations you can get tapes with Bizarre Magick performances (and explanations).
Also note that most of these are of the "old school" type of Bizarre Magick, most being filmed over 10 years ago, and have a darker feel than the magick of Ed Solomon, Bob Neale and others.

Eugene Goes Bizarre (Highly recommended). See:
http://www.daytonamagic.com/Video's/video005.htm

Deceptions Unlimited, The HauntedMagick Video (this is a more recent video). See:
http://www.deceptionsunlimited.com/products.html
Definitely check out these videos and BUY the "Book
of HauntedMagick!

The "Magus Video" by Jim Magus:
http://www.bizarremagick.com/jmagusproducts.html
Jim's books are excellent and required Bizarre Magick reading!

Floraco:
Note: These aren't the Best quality and are a little pricey ...
http://floraco.safeshopper.com

Tony Andruzzi's Bizarre (The master himself ... this is a must have):
http://floraco.safeshopper.com/7/134.htm?229

Docc Hilford's WEERD Videos:
http://floraco.safeshopper.com/7/78.htm?229
http://floraco.safeshopper.com/7/67.htm?229
http://floraco.safeshopper.com/7/68.htm?229

It's Alive - Tony Shiels (Godfather of Bizarre):
This is unusual and ONLY has performances. It's like
getting inside Tony's head (which is a scary place):
http://floraco.safeshopper.com/7/80.htm?229

BlackHart (unfortunately these are in PAL format):
http://www.blackhart.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/page14.html

Hope this helps. Also for information on Bizarre Magick, check out DragonSkull. In my opinion, this is THE BEST web site resource for Bizarre Magickians:

http://www.dragonskull.co.uk/

Magickally,
Dave Birtwell
Message: Posted by: rcad (Nov 27, 2003 10:36PM)
StrangeMagick,

Thanks for all the info!

I'm really intrigued by the Book of HauntedMagick... In fact, I WANT it! Hehe! But as far as video performances are concerned, I now tend to look upon my VHS collection the same way I look at my vinyl records... And at the prices they are charging for them, I guess I'll wait until they either lower them or have DVD versions.

And yes, Dragonskull is where I first learned about bizarre magick and my imagination has gone wild since then!

Richard
Message: Posted by: braddevant (Nov 29, 2003 08:10PM)
Jim Magus' Arcana of bizarre magick is a must.
Message: Posted by: Rick Maue (Nov 30, 2003 02:28PM)
Greetings,

"HauntedMagick: The Video" is currently out of stock, and our other two video releases ("Deceptions" & "The Carlyle Touch") are also just about gone. The demand for videotapes is now so low that we will probably not be producing them any longer.

However, we are looking at the possibility of releasing all three titles on DVD, but we have not made that decision as of yet.

Our future releases (starting with my upcoming Occam's Magic) will be DVD's only.


Keep the change,
Rick Maue
Deceptions Unlimited
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Nov 30, 2003 11:04PM)
With HauntedMagic Rick Maue offers up magic which does not sacrifice in the name of bizarre. It is touching magic which gets under the skin of those who see it.

I also have Rick's most recent lecture notes, sort of a primer to Occam's Magic, I believe. They are potent, as I expected.

Anxiously await the delights I am sure await in Occam's Magic. Until then enjoying Haunted and the notes. Lucky East Coast; I believe Rick will be touring in the spring up and down the East Coast.

Cheers,

Tom
Message: Posted by: Rick Maue (Dec 1, 2003 01:08PM)
Greetings,

Thanks for the nice words, Tom. And yes, my Occam's Magic Sampler is the prelude to my upcoming book and DVD. It contains ten items: seven are from the book and three are exclusive to the Sampler. All for only $10, plus you get a coupon worth $5 to put toward your purchase of the book when it comes out in 2004.
But so that you know, Occam's Magic is not a book on HauntedMagick, it is more mentalism than anything else.

As for touring, yes, I will be along the East Coast in the spring, but I am also planning on hitting other parts of the country as well. If you are interested, check out our website for details on my current lecture.

http://www.deceptionsunlimited.com/lectures.html


Keep the change,
Rick Maue
Deceptions Unlimited
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Dec 2, 2003 10:51AM)
Do yourself a favor & buy anything you can from Rick!
I recieved Occams Sampler a while back & I am looking forward to purchasing the book.



:bat:
Message: Posted by: ptbeast (Dec 2, 2003 03:34PM)
I just wanted to chime in as well. I can't say enough about Rick's books. I have used a great deal of material from Haunted Magick, and have been impressed with Occams Sampler as well.

I also wanted to add that if you get the opportunity to see Rick lecture, don't miss it! He came to Portland a few days before Theatre Macabre opened its Halloween run. I was frantic, but snuck out to see the lecture anyway. And I was glad I did. I will guarantee that if you perform mentalism, you will take away something that you can use!

This has not been a paid advertisment. On the contrary, I owe Rick more than I can say for encouraging me down the path to bizarre magick.

Dave
Message: Posted by: ALEXANDRE (Dec 10, 2003 03:10PM)
I own the "Deceptions" video...fine work!



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Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Dec 10, 2003 03:21PM)
Richard writes: "Dragonskull is where I first learned about bizarre magick and my imagination has gone wild since then!"

Like any other branch of magic, before you get into it, make sure you want to!

In other words, before you spend any money on anything, check out what's available for free.

You're into Dragonskull; I would also suggest that you check out the late Gene Poinc's page on the Learned Pig website, and my monthly column, Bizarre Bazaar, in the e-zine Visions (www.online-vision.com).

Enjoy!

:bat:

cheers,
Peter Marucci
showtimecol@aol.com
Message: Posted by: rcad (Dec 12, 2003 07:52PM)
Peter,

I made an application (two in fact) a long time ago and never got an answer from the Learned Pig website. I gave up on it. I do read from Dragonskull and read you quite a few times on Online Visions.... ;)

I don't mind spending a little money even if it is just to expand my general knowledge about magic. In fact, I study magic as seriously as I studied communications when I was attending University. I simply love to learn more and more! As far as bizzare magick is concerned, I have incomplete scenarios still forming in my imagination; one of them having been directly inspired from you! The Jack the Ripper trick got me to imagine a series of effects on that theme and I will eventually perform it for friends.

So you see, I'm taking advantage of both worlds, thanks to people like you! :)

Richard
Message: Posted by: 7th_Son (Dec 12, 2003 09:39PM)
I find it very hard to learn magic from books. I finding reading very mentally demanding. I end up reading the same passage over and over again.

Can anyone recommend a good Bizarre magic Video (PAL) or DVD?
Message: Posted by: The Curator (Dec 13, 2003 01:44PM)
You're probably reading a force book.... :sun:
Message: Posted by: tiptophat (Dec 13, 2003 11:12PM)
I would like to submit what I think to be the granddaddy of them all. Bascom Jones magick. This was in a newsletter format and you can find them on ebay at times or at various magic auctions. Also, Collectors Workshop reprinted the newsletters in bound editions. They sorted them by type of effects rather than maintain the the format of the original newsletter. These can all be a little pricy but, they are well worth it.

In spirit and mind...Tom
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Dec 14, 2003 01:41AM)
[quote]
On 2003-10-28 12:49, truthteller wrote:
MAny years ago I arranged and hosted a symposium on bizarre magic for the TAOM. Craig Snader spoke on the history of Bizarre magic literature. For that event, he compiled an Annotated Bibliography of Bizarre Magic, a list of almost every book printed on the subject. I believe H and R magic may still have copies.

http://www.magicbookshop.com
[/quote]

I participated in that symposium also, along with Eugene Burger and George Kirkendall. It was quite an event.

Now there are approximately twice as many books on the subject.

BTW, From now until Dec. 31, 2003, if you order Sheherazade from the Adesso Verlag web site http://www.adessoverlag.com, just let me know that you are a member of the Magic Café, and I will give you a discount.
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Dec 14, 2003 10:21AM)
Richard writes: "I made an application (two in fact) a long time ago and never got an answer from the Learned Pig website."

Marco runs the site on his own and he is very frequently on the road for long stretches of time.

That may account for the delay or lack of response.

However, don't give up; the site is well worth it (the books -- in the public domain -- are worth the wait on their own!).

cheers,
Peter Marucci
showtimecol@aol.com
Message: Posted by: J.Warrens (Jan 25, 2004 02:10PM)
Greetings!
A book I still cherish, and not mentioned here: "Tales of a Magical Madman" by Stephen Minch.
While the material is of standard stock, the routines are indeed quite bizarre!
Cheers,
J.Warrens