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Topic: Reviewers for TIBPS
Message: Posted by: aalexander (Dec 11, 2012 11:14PM)
I'd like a few people to review an effect of mine. TIBPS is a utility effect that allows one to do predictions in the same vein as the Master Prediction System other multiple prediction/"confabulation" methods. As an added bonus, its handling is a lot easier than an expensive system and costs very little in money or energy to set up, allowing the performer to focus on the presentation. It can be done without an accomplice, and the prediction itself can be strung up, locked away, held by an audience member or passed around, and lends well to a variety of performance types. I have been using it for about 3 years and can vouch for it as being well-tested and versatile. Atlas, who is the only one to have used it in a show besides myself, said that it was "...stupidly good. Incredibly cunning and impressive."

Please post or PM me if you are interested in reviewing it. If you want to make my day, you can include a joke for my 8 year old niece. She laughed on and off for 3 days at the "Panda eats shoots and leaves" joke and I have never been even close to matching it. Might just take a miracle.

Message: Posted by: Rafael The Master Hypnotist (Dec 11, 2012 11:52PM)
PM Sent
Sorry I can not include any joke for your Niece
Message: Posted by: Atlas (Dec 12, 2012 12:39AM)
I was just browsing and saw this thread.

As Aaron has quoted me in the initial post, I thought I'd take a moment and more fully express my perspective on TIBPS.

Anyone looking for an engaging, interesting and entertaining means of revealing a prediction ought to look here first (I think I saw a thread a few weeks back that was looking for a great way to reveal a prediction - whoever started it, you should PM Aaron).

This method is easy, clean, extremely deceptive, very fun and (due to the nature of the thing - can't really say more) passively engages a lot more of the audience in the overall effect, helping them to become invested in the result and revelation at the end. You will not lose their attention.

I've long admired Kennedy's knack for taking something humdrum and mundane and making the final reveal wildly unexpected and pleasing. Aaron has something here that, in my opinion, follows in those footsteps - and in a way that has very broad application. It works for stage, parlor, or one-on-one.

I've not seen anything like this, and am truly enamored with it.

My advice is to blow up his inbox and try to get this little darling before it has a price tag.


Message: Posted by: aalexander (Dec 12, 2012 12:52AM)
Inbox blown up. I'll try to reply to everyone, but don't have time tonight. I'm sending a couple copies out now, and a couple in the morning. Thanks, everyone!

Message: Posted by: scottyocean (Dec 12, 2012 02:30AM)
Im interested.

Joke: So Sarah Jessica Parker walks into a bar and the bartender says so why the long face.
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 12, 2012 05:59AM)
I'm also very interested. Here's my offerings

What do you call a sheep with no legs......A cloud
What do you cal,a fly with no wings.....A walk
What is a TWIP ?....A wide on a wailway twain.

Message: Posted by: kinesis (Dec 12, 2012 09:28AM)

I'm in the middle of puting together a new show, which should open in May. I'd be interested in reviewing your TIBPS utility. PM sent.

And for your daughter...

Q: What did the frog order at McDonald's?

A: French flies and a diet Croak

Q: What do you call cheese that’s not yours?

A: Nacho cheese!

Q: Why did the girl smear peanut butter on the road?

A: To go with the traffic jam!
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Dec 12, 2012 10:14AM)
PM'd you

Here's a good joke for your niece...

Man walk into a library and shouts "Fish & chips please!"

The librarian whispers back "I'm sorry sir but this is a library"

The man leans forward and whispers gently back "Sorry, fish & chips please"
Message: Posted by: Bill Cushman (Dec 12, 2012 10:28AM)
She offered her honor, I honered her offer and all night long it was honor, offer, honor, offer. Whcops, not for your niece!

There is a daddy mole, a mommy mole and a baby mole. All of a sudden, daddy mole smells something wonderful and starts crawling out of the mole hole. Mommy takes off after him and Junior follows. Mom says, "Hurry, can't you smell the pancakes?" Junior replies, "No, all I can smell is molasses!

Ok, that won't work either. How about, "What is a cat's favorite color?" Answer: "Purrple." Or, "What is a cat's favorite song?" Answer: "Three Blind Mice"

Q: "What do snowmen like to eat for breakfast?" A: "Frosted Flakes." Q "Why is it so cold at Christmas?" A: "Because it is Decembrrr!"

Q: Knock, knock----Who's There?----Tank----Tank Who?
A: You're welcome!

Q: Knock, knock----Who's There?----Who----Who Who?
A: Is there an owl in there?

I hope one of these makes here at least smile! Not the first two, of course.
Message: Posted by: aalexander (Dec 12, 2012 10:46AM)
I woke up to 20 or so requests for a review copy. I have sent out all but one of the review copies that I will send for now. I'll still try to answer everyone, and am open to making a trick-for-trick trade or two for a copy of TIBPS.

After reading a few of these messages, I can see that I have little choice but to offer a discount to people who sent me jokes for my niece. This does not apply to future messages, though anyone who gives me something that rivals the panda joke gets a free copy and a hi-five.

Thanks for all the interest. I'm excited to hear what people think.

Message: Posted by: IAIN (Dec 12, 2012 10:55AM)
I'm interested and will happily trade...

a joke - a dog goes to the job centre, walks up to an assistant and says "i wanna job"

the assistant is shocked "that's amazing, a talking dog...you can make a fortune in a circus..."

dog says "no use to me, I'm a plumber"
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Dec 12, 2012 11:56AM)
I love things like this. I have done the Steinmeyer', Carlyle and Kngiht versions and this one is really cool. Simple, inexpensive and very clever with lots of applications for a range of styles....

Clever, clever man.

Dr Todd
Message: Posted by: magicman29 (Dec 12, 2012 11:58AM)
A joke not for your niece...

A bear and a rabbit taking a sh#t in the woods, the bear says to the rabbit "do you have a problem with sh#it sticking to your fur?"
The rabbit replied "no",so the bear wiped his ass with the him! :)

Message: Posted by: Atlas (Dec 12, 2012 12:00PM)
Five minutes non-stop laughter. Good one Kieran.
Message: Posted by: Funnybaldbloke (Dec 12, 2012 12:11PM)
Another one not for your niece...

A penguin is driving through the desert when his car breaks down. He manages to push it to the nearest town and takes it to the garage. The mechanic says 'I'll have a look at it for you but it might take a while, call back in a couple of hours'.
The penguin wanders off and thinks what am I going to do for two hours? Then he spots an ice cream parlour and thinks 'That'll do nicely! It's hot out here, ice cream is cold, I'm a penguin, I like the cold, sorted!!' So in he goes and for the next 120 minutes he's stuffing himself with ice cream. He loves it, can't eat it fast enough and it goes everywhere...on his flippers...down his front...on his chin...he's covered in the stuff.
Eventually he heads back to the garage and says 'How are you getting on?' The mechanic says 'I think you've blown a seal'. The penguin wipes his chin and says 'No, it's just ice cream'.


Message: Posted by: aalexander (Dec 12, 2012 12:21PM)
Over thirty requests now. And nobody will see the actual reviews or any of my pleas to stop sending requests in a sea of children's jokes...

[i]No regrets.[/i]

[b]For the record: I've sent all my review copies. If you sent a joke for my niece before my other post, you get a discount for making my day. [i]If you still want a copy, give me your email address and I will send you an email upon TIBPS' imminent release.[/i] If you'd rather trade trick-for-trick and not wait, send me a PM.[/b]

I gained a lot of love for this site today. Thanks, everyone.
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Dec 12, 2012 08:15PM)
Hello everyone,

Here is my review of TIBPS.

This is a routine that I feel will add greatly to anyone's act. This will look and feel totally unbelievable to your audience as there is no back tracking to be done. It plays exactly as it looks. Straight forward with a one two punch at the end makes TIBPS an amazing piece of mentalism. This routine accomplishes the same effect that cost over a thousand dollars elsewhere.

No assistance is needed in this breath taking effect. After reading this, I guaranteed that your audience will have no idea how this is done. Everything looks so fair and easy to follow along. The main idea isn't new but it is how Aaron places everything together that makes this routine a smashing success.

I have been doing a routine similar to this but will now start using TIBPS as written! This is going straight into my act!

Ray Noble
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 13, 2012 05:30AM)
I can only echo what Ray said.

Message: Posted by: Bill Cushman (Dec 13, 2012 09:00AM)
On page 2 I was thinking "beautiful," on page 3 "brilliant" and by page 5 I was already getting inspired with my own "twists," if you'll pardon the pun. There is some really clever thinking gone into this idea and it strikes me as a true worker upon reading it. Thanks Alexander.

And I'm betting your niece will laugh at the knock knock jokes. 3 year olds go crazy for them and your biggest risk is having to hear the same joke over and over for a few days!
Message: Posted by: Sealegs (Dec 13, 2012 10:29AM)
I hope this doesn't come across as disparaging to those that have written about this so far... but as Aaron asked for people to review this product in exchange for a copy of it is it possible to get an actual review?

An overview of the product, an idea of what the prediction involves (boxes? envelopes? pouches?) it's pros, it's cons the applications, the restrictions, originality in method or procedure or look and how it compares to other similar products such as the Master Prediction System, Confabulation, and others. You know... a review.

Thanks ;)
Message: Posted by: aalexander (Dec 13, 2012 12:37PM)
Sealegs: Very fair question. I have been burned by Magic Café hype before, so I'll try to be really straightforward and give my take on what you're getting, the pros and the cons.

The method is a switch of predictions that looks 100% legit and happens in full view of everyone during the climax when everyone is staring at the prediction. It is surprisingly easy to pull off.

Pros have been discussed quite a bit in reviews and don't need to repeat them. Personally my biggest pro: I'm kind of an odd duck in that I can't stand repetition and have never performed the same show twice, and so I'm always looking for something that is quick to master and can be easily adapted to a different theme du jour. This fits the bill exactly.

My main caveat is that I would not expect this method to be used by someone who is doing a very serious or bizarre type of magic (I'm thinking of a Eugene Poinc kind of show). The other is that if you are new to mentalism, you will either want an accomplice or really take the solo instructions to heart. There is also a variant where the effect can be infinitely repeated with certain limitations, and this method would be very easy for a beginner to accomplish (I speak from the personal experience of having used this a number of years ago before even having a show to put it in. Atlas has some very interesting ideas for this method as well). One limitation on adapting to different themes is the same as something like the Master system: Any show with TIBPS has to speak to the fact that there's a prediction sitting in plain view the whole time. This is kind of its strength, too, though, and unlike Master, if you play it right you can surprise the audience with the fact that your very conspicuous container holds a prediction.

In short: The laws of physics still apply and there is some work to do, but the work is simple, cheap to set up, can be learned and applied with minimal effort, and a variety of ways of accomplishing the work are discussed in the booklet. I know it well to be a solid low-tech, low-effort, high-impact effect with a ton of uses. It is being road-tested by a few serious mentalists (sans accomplice), and I'm happy if any of them share their more private thoughts to others via PM.

PM me if you want me to be any more explicit.


P.S. I really doubt this will happen, but if you get that sensation that you get when an expensive, overhyped product leaves you feeling cold, I'll refund you or give you another effect.
Message: Posted by: quicknotist (Dec 13, 2012 01:30PM)
How does a penguin mend his house?
Igloos it together
Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 13, 2012 02:03PM)
The only JOKE here is that Aaron took so long to get this idea to us. Joke's on us!! Ha ha ha!

This is terrific thinking and a very viable method that will fool the pants off 'em!

I hope Aaron has more stuff up his sleeve and becomes our friend soon.

Sealegs, if you buy this and don't like it I'll ... I'll .... I'll make Aaron give you your money back.

No seriously, Stephen Young will give you your money back ... and Bill Cushman will give you a copy of Bill's Bends, right Bill and Steve.

It's that good Sealegs. No hype.

Message: Posted by: Atlas (Dec 13, 2012 03:14PM)
Sealegs - I would have posted a more comprehensive review if I thought Aaron was to the point of distributing this. I don't know if he is planning on selling it, what the asking price would be, or where to purchase it. I think Aaron started this thread with the intention of obtaining feedback and opinions prior to releasing this.

If this were a section for reviews, I would post in detail what I thought were the strengths regarding handling (here is some food for thought - like a beach ball being tossed around at a concert, it engages the audience :) ) and the weaknesses, which at this point, is pretty much that the prediction by nature cannot be too large. I would also give a few tips as regards handling and tests that you may want to run to ensure that everything comes off without any troubles.

I may actually take a moment and send my thoughts along to Aaron if he wants to include them in the version that he plans to distribute.

But, to answer your initial question, I don't think this is at the release stage, and so specific details are still vague out of respect for whatever Aaron's plans may be.

But, to echo John, Bill, Doctor Todd, Ray, and Stephen - This is very good thinking. It is easy to do, visually appealing, and broadly applicable. I would be surprised if you didn't like it.


Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 13, 2012 03:16PM)
Thanks JC. Thanks a lot.

But yeah, if you don't like it I'LL give you your money back!

Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 13, 2012 04:06PM)
On 2012-12-13 16:16, Stephen Young wrote:
Thanks JC. Thanks a lot.

But yeah, if you don't like it I'LL give you your money back!


Message: Posted by: Bill Cushman (Dec 13, 2012 05:01PM)
I don't get it. Why the difference with Steve having to give up money and me having to give a copy of DBB? And why doesn't Atlas have to give up a copy of The Prodigal? : )

Sealegs, I understand your frustrations, especially since the title is so vague. First, I missed the previews so traded for a copy of DBB. So not exactly a freebie. Not that I would have reviewed it any differently had I gotten it for free or paid cash.

I'm not sure, Sealegs, why more isn't being specified regarding the effect. Or even the name which would help. But I'm guessing Alexander has his reasons though I don't see a problem. Maybe it is just an odd oversight. Alexander?

I do have some things to add in terms of Alexander's credibility. He has very good taste as demonstrated when he provided me with a video of his take on The Jumping Pulse. It stays between he and I so don't even ask.

If you go to his site, you can see him performing, albeit a few years ago, some wonderful effects in a college lab setting. What really got me though, as good as the the effects were, was how the audience was responding to Alexander. He has a way with people, evoking excellent responses from both participants and audience. So back then (you were how old Alexander :)? A true baby face so I'm guessing no more than 19 or 20?) he already had developed a very good understanding of what people like and how to bring out the best in an audience.

This kind of thinking shows in TIBPS. In a way (see Atlas's beach ball metaphor) you can involve the entire audience before the prediction becomes evident for a killer finale. Kind of like DBB in form, hmmm.

Also, Alexander is vetting the h*** out of the book. There are precedents but nothing quite like what Alexander has put together. Not even close. At least so far and Greg Arce has been consulted who usually knows everything and is one of the people I always go to in order to make sure I'm not reinventing the wheel. Props for the care Alexander is taking and holding off until all is known and everything is just right.
Message: Posted by: Atlas (Dec 13, 2012 06:19PM)
Bill, you cheeky man! Stephen must be the easiest one of the three of us to shake down!

It is a lock anyway - I can't see that anyone would be disappointed by this. And I am glad you got my meaning regarding the beachball at the concert.

At any rate, if you liked this and enjoyed what you saw on Aaron's site, you will love his book "The Pygmalion Effects". It reads like a graduate level textbook in mental and psychological effects. I've got a review copy and I think it will make a splash if he ever decides to release it.
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 14, 2012 02:46AM)
Easy to shake down? Maybe.
But it's more a case of I feel confident that no-one who buys this (when it's available) will be disappointed.

Also just for clarity.
I traded this for a copy of my ESPy-onage.
So I've actually paid more than those who will be buying it. Review would have been the same if I'd got it for free.

Message: Posted by: ajb6864 (Dec 14, 2012 07:44AM)
In the interests of transparency, I have also got a traded copy, but my review would be exactly as my esteemed friends above :- this is very nice!

The fact that it fits pretty much what I do, makes it even better, but as Aaron said in his earlier post; it may not be the ideal reveal for every type of presentation.

All of that said, I can see this being used for a multitude of purposes and in varying environments.

The 'feel' of this really reminds me of something that TA Waters would have come up with and it makes me smile at the prospect of using it.

Thanks Aaron.

Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Dec 14, 2012 08:57AM)
HI Aaron, hope you put the credit in the pdf as the transparent balloon idea and the handling of the pin, is esactly the same as in my Thought of card in Balloon DVD ;)
Message: Posted by: tboehnlein (Dec 14, 2012 09:44AM)
Seriously,It may be the same as in your Thought of Card in Balloon but it is not original with you, start with Barrie Richardson's book but it goes back beyond that also. I used it same method for a bill to impossible location years ago, but I do not want credit for it.
Message: Posted by: ajb6864 (Dec 14, 2012 09:58AM)
I think that it is extremely discourteous to have exposed the method behind someone's effect in a public forum like this.

Any grievances could easily have been discussed via pm.
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 14, 2012 10:46AM)
My reply to the creator, on reading his effect, included a recommendation that he contact Luca as I'd seen him use something similar.

Message: Posted by: aalexander (Dec 14, 2012 11:07AM)
Luca, I've PM'd you. I have not put the effect on the market. As you can see from the comments, there have been no real in-depth reviews because it has not been released yet. The only people who have a copy received a free review copy, or did a trade-for-trade.

The reason for the delay was specifically because some reviewers had mentioned that you had mentioned doing something similar on your DVD, and I wanted to find out more. I've been speaking with some people who are way better magic historians than I, and people who have seen and reviewed your DVD.

Bill has already said that I was "vetting the hell" out of this, and that takes time. I started that by starting this thread. I hope that you can see that I'm taking a lot of care to learn how to do things right, and that I will keep you informed. [b][i]If there was any doubt of that, it should be erased by the fact that I PM'd you there very first day that this thread started, within minutes of Steve mentioning that you might have done something similar. [/i][/b] I've said to everyone involved that I want to do the right thing and would consider crediting, altering, or scrapping anything that was not original with me.

I won't promise to do everything right, but I will promise to do everything in good faith and with integrity. I'm sure there are people here who can vouch for that. I hope we can finish this discussion elsewhere.

Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Dec 14, 2012 11:21AM)
Dear Aaron, we agreed, that BEFORE you was goign to release this (and as I can see you arelady sent some copies out) you was goign to watch the DVD and then release this after (for me sending out copies is a pre-release). I sent you some pm (that you have read it) and I was hoping that INSTEAD writing here, you was goign to reply me back...but at this point if you want to speak in public I have no problem :) You know...the italian likes "spice stuff" :)
Jokes a part, this method is not new to anyone as already many performers in the past has already plaied with that (from Corinda, to Richardson, to Mike Jenest and many others) as I HAVE credited in my DVD...the only improvement I have donewas in the handling of the pin and the extra about the clear ballon (that was tipped by Nefesh for my DVD) which are VERY similar to your routine. By now I would like to solve this things in private. Thanks
Message: Posted by: aalexander (Dec 14, 2012 11:41AM)
Sorry, everyone. I posted here to find reviewers. Reviewers told me about precedents, and I contacted Luca and others right away. He got a free review copy right away as well, as did others who I thought could help us sort this. Luca and I have exchanged over a dozen PMs, but I think during my silence he assumed that I had released this effect without telling him. If this isn't sorted in private, I'll scrap the effect and let everyone on here know.

Anyone who is upset with anything that has gone on here, please let me know what I have done wrong and I will correct it. If you are unsatisfied with a trade, I will happily give you another effect.

Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 14, 2012 12:11PM)
We can get this sorted out guys.

Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 14, 2012 01:19PM)
I'm happy. As long as Steve gives the refunds. ;) Sorry Steve I know that you are fair and will honor my requests.
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 14, 2012 01:55PM)
Both Aaron and Luca are decent guys.
I'm sure this is well on the way to being sorted out.

Message: Posted by: aalexander (Dec 14, 2012 04:52PM)
It's resolved. Sorry for the wall of text, but for those interested this will tell you what TIBPS is, why I was vague, what the crediting issue was, and how it's resolved:

In TIBPS, a prediction is sealed in a clear balloon and can be hung, passed around the audience, or what have you. The key move in TIBPS is a switch, but the switch is done in plain sight at the climax of the effect when all eyes are on the prediction. It opens a number of possibilities and routines, which are discussed in the text.

A prediction (there goes the mystery from P in TIBPS) in a balloon is not new, and as Luca and other reviewers have mentioned, many thinkers and performers have used it. Luca's video on doing a card-to-balloon effect, he mentions the possibility of doing the classic "prediction in balloon" with a transparent balloon. A particular innovation in his handling of the classic effect makes it possible to do so. Even if it was not the focus of his video, his thinking is very clear in the video. It would be nice to just say "great minds think alike", but Luca has published some good work that I was unaware of that very clearly bears on my own. We've spoken and worked things out.

[b]How I will proceed:[/b]

1) If you have Luca's DVD already, you can have TIBPS for free. I have gotten very positive feedback about TIBPS, including from those who have also seen or reviewed Luca's video. Among other things, TIBS will give you an excellent way of applying Luca's innovations to the classic effect. If you feel that it adds nothing to what Luca has already given you, I will eat my hat. (So will John C. Right, John?) Ownership will be determined by a simple question about the DVD.

2) Anyone who is unsatisfied with a trade that they've made can just let me know and I will give them a different effect.

3) To anyone who is uncertain: Those who have asked about price already know that the effect will be quite cheap. Anyone who feels like it is a gamble will not be gambling much.

As anyone who reads this forum knows, a very simple idea, applied well, can take you a ridiculously long way. I think comments so far confirm that TIBPS is not a wild breakthrough, but a simple idea, applied quite well.

One way to find out just how far this particular idea can take you will be to pick up a copy of TIBPS. Then, not only will you have an answer, but it would be an answer that could quite astoundingly find its way into a clear balloon that you inflate [i]right now[/i]. Sort of. Alternatively, have a look at the reviews and use your wildest imagination.

If anyone else has questions, feel free to PM me.

Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Dec 14, 2012 06:33PM)
OK ! I,have a question ?

Did your niece, like any of the Jokes ? :)

Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 14, 2012 09:05PM)
Yes Aaron, I will eat your hat. Most indubitably
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 15, 2012 02:48AM)
So Aaron is going to be in hospital with hypothermia for wandering around this winter with no hat.
John is going to be in hospital suffering from gastric complications, brought on by eating headgear.
And I'm going to be paying for it all!

And there was me trying to help.

Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Dec 15, 2012 02:56AM)
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Dec 15, 2012 04:46AM)
So...did anyone die as a result of all this?

anyone's trousers combust in sheer rage and despair?

these things happen, sometimes stuff gets overlooked, misremembered - all kinds of things...

actually - if you'd read a few pm's between me and mr young recently, you'd be laughing at some of the similar thoughts we'd been having, that have lots of overlap... but we just talked and laughed at the synchronicity of it all...we didn't have to whip out our muskets...
Message: Posted by: Stephen Young (Dec 15, 2012 05:25AM)
I wasn't aware the whipping out of muskets was an option. I might have gone for that.
Though in my case it may have been closer to a derringer than a musket.

Message: Posted by: IAIN (Dec 15, 2012 06:16AM)
Any excuse!
Message: Posted by: Looch (Dec 15, 2012 08:42AM)
Sausage fest
Message: Posted by: aalexander (Dec 15, 2012 08:31PM)
Godzilla: It was a tossup between "What is brown and sticky" from you, and "A dog walks into an employment agency" from IAIN.

Other than that, her favourite joke (sort of) of late is from when I was trying to explain some work I was doing on perceptual priming. She'll talk to someone and then pretend to hurt herself and say "ouch ouch ouch... hey, name a piece of furniture". Then she has something ready for when they say "couch".

She will be a wizard someday.
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Dec 15, 2012 09:52PM)
On 2012-12-15 21:31, aalexander wrote:
Godzilla: It was a tossup between "What is brown and sticky" from you, and "A dog walks into an employment agency" from IAIN.

She will be a wizard someday.

Best,of wishes on your niece, becoming a wizard!
And, the best to you,on your release... :)

Message: Posted by: aalexander (Jan 25, 2013 09:41AM)
I just thought I'd update this thread by saying that TIBPS is now released. It will cost only $15, and can be delivered by email.

More information, including feedback from those who have already used TIBPS, can be found [url=http://tibps.pygmalioneffects.com/]here[/url].

Message: Posted by: TheMag1cian (Feb 1, 2013 05:31PM)
On 2013-01-25 10:41, aalexander wrote:
I just thought I'd update this thread by saying that TIBPS is now released. It will cost only $15, and can be delivered by email.

More information, including feedback from those who have already used TIBPS, can be found [url=http://tibps.pygmalioneffects.com/]here[/url].


I would like this very much! Confabulation prediction effects right up my alley!