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Topic: Balls for Cups or Chop cups
Message: Posted by: dader76 (Jan 17, 2013 06:44AM)
I am no way involved with this business but wanted to praise their workmanship and price. I ordered a set of balls, four none chopped, in their oriental ball series and they just arrived. Wonderful, great feel, great weight -- and at $12 a reasonable deal. My advice is that because they are heavier than crocheted cork balls they will talk and so you would want a heavy cup or light hand.

Just thought I offer my praise.
Message: Posted by: Woland (Jan 17, 2013 08:36AM)
About whom?
Message: Posted by: dader76 (Jan 17, 2013 09:23AM)
HOW STUPID OF ME TO NEGLECT THEM!
I bought them from that website Uniquemagicballs.com. This was my exchange...
Below are the price for the Oriental Metallic Spiral Ball (acrylic core) Silvery Purple or Dark Blue according to size:
1. 5/8 and 3/4 in set of 4: USD12
2. 5/8 and 3/4 in set of 4 (2 gaffed and 2 working balls) : USD20

When I mention 'talking' I do a move, everyone does, of letting the ball fall into the cup from my hand...I have these steel Mikame cups and they do make a sound though no one other than me notices.
Message: Posted by: thirdeye3 (Aug 26, 2013 02:45AM)
Thanks for the website. I was just going to ask about that. Any other websites for balls?
Message: Posted by: whbuch (Aug 26, 2013 10:55AM)
^ I purchased my straights, chopped, and final loads here, and have been extremely satisfied:

http://www.rnt2.com/
Message: Posted by: thirdeye3 (Sep 1, 2013 01:38AM)
Is there any particular size of ball that goes with cups? I see 3/4, 1 inch, 1.5 inch. For say a medium sized cup.
Message: Posted by: Dr. JK (Sep 1, 2013 11:26AM)
Thirdeye, if you're getting a RNT cup, each cup page has suggested balls to use on each cup's page. That's a good starting place.
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Sep 1, 2013 10:11PM)
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On 2013-08-26 11:55, whbuch wrote:
^ I purchased my straights, chopped, and final loads here, and have been extremely satisfied:

http://www.rnt2.com/
[/quote]

I agree. The adjustable nature of these balls make them (IMO) the only balls to consider (for chopped, that is).

Also, I like 7/8" balls for my mini chop cups. They're large enough to be seen, yet appropriate for this size cup.
3/4" (for me) is a little too small. But, that's just me!

Then again, nobody really cares 'sept us magicians! ;)
Message: Posted by: thirdeye3 (Sep 2, 2013 12:28AM)
I had bought a dvd on chop cup, the worlds greatest magic series. Many routines all very good. After looking at it, I can see that the chop cup routine does differ a great deal than the c&b routine. I had bought a combo set that came with one gaffed ball. I think I'll stick with the c&b routine for now. But I need one normal ball to replace the gaffed ball. Its hard to tell the size of the balls. I don't have a ruler. Maybe 3/4 or 1 inch. The set I have is by Uday, aluminum, combo set. They are well made. I have no complaints. Does anyone know the size they might be?
Message: Posted by: whiteoakcanyon (Sep 2, 2013 05:04AM)
I believe they are 3/4 inch, but you might be able to reach out to U Day to confirm the size.
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Sep 2, 2013 01:42PM)
Put a straight edge across both sides of the ball and measure the gap. That'll get you pretty close!
Message: Posted by: Donnie Buckley (Sep 2, 2013 03:21PM)
In my experience it can be difficult to match color, size and quality of the crochet when trying to add balls to an existing set. Unless the store that sold you the first set can guarantee that additional balls will match exactly, you will save a lot of trouble by just purchasing a new set of 4 which will be all identical.
Also 3/4" balls are pretty small, if you go ahead and get a whole new set, regardless of who you purchase them from, shoot for a 1" set, or 7/8" at the minimum.

And thank to you guys who endorse the RNT balls!
Message: Posted by: thirdeye3 (Sep 2, 2013 11:22PM)
Thanks, I emailed Uday and he said they were 1 inch.
Message: Posted by: whbuch (Sep 11, 2013 11:59AM)
I will say my cups are Bazar de Magia, and my hands are average size...I know it's not possible to be "extremely average," which is an oxymoron...but really, my hands are the definition of average sized.

I bought 1-1/8 balls from rnt2.com. They are beautiful and came as advertised, but I wish I had gone with 1" or perhaps 7/8". Although they fit in my cups, the 1-1/8 are just a shade too big, and I have an unavoidable bulge while f****r p******.

I will probably end up ordering some 1" very soon. Live and learn I guess.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Sep 11, 2013 01:58PM)
Don't give up on the larger balls. Gazzo uses rather large balls and it works just find. I too use 1 1/4 balls with no problem. The secret is to just cradle it loosely in the hand, sort of grasping it with the third finger and letting the little finger act as a "shelf." This leaves you in a very natural, nearly open hand that implies that nothing could possibly be hidden there without dropping it. Check out Michael Ammar's essay "Natural lay of the Hand"

My hand was resting on the table with the ball palmed, but it could have just as well been in the air or in motion reaching for a cup.

[img]http://davevmagic.com/forumpix/PalmDown.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: BeThePlunk (Sep 11, 2013 06:51PM)
Thanks for the website, dader76. I was perplexed about dimension too until I bought inexpensive calipers at the local hardware store. 7/8" is the best size for me. I can go to an inch. When I go larger I run into loading problems. When I go smaller, I think they look too little in proportion to my cups.

I've spent a ton of money searching for the right balls. The balls that have the best grip, like Fakini's or superballs, bind on the inside the cups during a slide move. Monkey firsts also have a nice feel, but can give me trouble too. Right now I'm most comfortable with RNT2's and I just received some Mike Rogers baseballs to play with. I'll pursue the lead you suggest. Thanks again.