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Topic: Paul Brook's NIX4?
Message: Posted by: DeeChristopherMagic (Jan 24, 2013 11:15AM)
Just read about this on Paul's site - Sounds amazing.

"For countless performances now, my show has ended with a powerful finale.

This finale, called NIX4, is four incredible effects in one and they all fit perfectly together to produce a full-bodied finish to any parlour or stage show.

When the performer uses NIX4, he demonstrates four separate skill sets: Prediction, Influence, Direct Mind Reading and the mastery of Non-Verbal cues. In its entirity, NIX4 uses 5 audience members and has an incredible sixteen moments of amazement.

NIX4 relies on one single moment of sneakiness, just one, and then the effects simply fall into place."

http://www.paulbrook.co.uk/heknows/nix4.html

Reading the full advert, I think I'm sold. It fits in an A4 folder, plays as a 15-25 min piece with 16 hits, foreword by Bob Cassidy and it's got some badass illustrations of Paul.

I've not seen Paul's show, but have heard great things - It's got me excited anyway!

DC
Message: Posted by: paulvigil (Jan 24, 2013 12:18PM)
Q. When has Paul ever led us astray?

A. Never.

'Nuff said!
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Jan 24, 2013 03:31PM)
Against my better judgment to respond to hypes, I have pre-ordered it, only because I bought "This way up" and frigging loved it.
it's pricey for a book, but if it's on the same level as this way up I know I'll love it, and I've been looking for a closer, to replace my current, reminiscence, altough it's a great effect I find it lacks a kicker so I might put it in a show on it's own or maybe make it smaller and do it in the middle of a show or even open with it to set the tone.


ANYWAY back on topic, I'm weak and succumbed to the hype
Message: Posted by: Smoking Camel (Jan 24, 2013 03:40PM)
Ill have some of this. ordered.
Message: Posted by: Atticus R. Cane (Jan 24, 2013 09:54PM)
Soon to be a happy owner of one out of 200.
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Jan 25, 2013 03:02AM)
I've bought the best final ever!
Andrew Gerard " bread home made"
Killer things I've ever seen!
Message: Posted by: timlic (Jan 25, 2013 09:57AM)
Love Paul's thinking, so I'm in!
Message: Posted by: ThatsJustWrong! (Jan 25, 2013 12:06PM)
Order in. I missed out on This Way Up (anyone wanna sell theirs?) and I'm not taking any chances this time. Besides, mortgage payments are overrated...
Message: Posted by: tmoca (Jan 25, 2013 12:47PM)
[quote]
On 2013-01-25 13:06, that'sJustWrong! wrote:
Order in. I missed out on This Way Up (anyone wanna sell theirs?) and I'm not taking any chances this time. Besides, mortgage payments are overrated...
[/quote]

Quote of the decade!!! HAHAHA...love it.

I am already in. I am big fan and supporter of Paul's work. I am truly hoping that the name of this routine is not a hint on the method....not a fan of that.

Oh...and I too missed out on This Way Up.. Would like to snag one for a reasonable price. ;)
Message: Posted by: eric6 (Jan 25, 2013 06:08PM)
Pm me ;)...
Message: Posted by: PerryCarp (Jan 26, 2013 01:41PM)
Couldn't resist... I'm in.
Message: Posted by: Ken Dyne (Jan 27, 2013 04:49AM)
I'm excited to receive this.
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Jan 27, 2013 05:24AM)
I pm myself.
I'm not interested in this.
Message: Posted by: Colin (Jan 27, 2013 06:01AM)
It's probably all hype like all of these high price things, so I'm going to be like some fuds and slate it without even seeing it, knowing anything about it or performing it in the real world.

PS: who is Paul Brook?
Message: Posted by: Simon (Ted) Edwards (Jan 27, 2013 06:17AM)
I was told Paul Brook is the pen name Derren Brown now uses when publishing mentalism releases.
T.
Message: Posted by: innercirclewannabe (Jan 27, 2013 06:25AM)
[quote]
On 2013-01-27 07:17, Simon (Ted) Edwards wrote:
I was told Paul Brook is the pen name Derren Brown now uses when publishing mentalism releases.
T.
[/quote]

Yes, I heard this too. He also uses the name Neal Scryer for his other publications. ;)
Message: Posted by: The Paranormalist (Jan 27, 2013 06:28AM)
Hype or not? I've placed my order.

Franklin
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Jan 27, 2013 10:34AM)
So now that we got some orders in, where are the early reviews like with "this way up" the beta testers if you will.

HYPE MEEEEEE....



:D
Message: Posted by: cheeky (Jan 27, 2013 03:55PM)
Cant find any release date on Pauls site, when does it ship out?
Message: Posted by: Smoking Camel (Jan 27, 2013 04:00PM)
[quote]
On 2013-01-27 16:55, cheeky wrote:
Cant find any release date on Pauls site, when does it ship out?
[/quote]

When the cartoonist has finished the pictures?
Message: Posted by: JackMagic (Jan 28, 2013 01:39AM)
[quote]
On 2013-01-27 16:55, cheeky wrote:
Cant find any release date on Pauls site, when does it ship out?
[/quote]

Once he has sold enough pre orders to fund the project !
Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Feb 3, 2013 05:54AM)
Good news guys...the release date is close...
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Feb 3, 2013 07:55AM)
Oh that's just mean, the release date is close, what a vague statement

MEAN
Message: Posted by: The Paranormalist (Feb 3, 2013 08:15AM)
I thinks the part that appeals to me the most is that NIX4 has sixteen moments of amazement. Just what I have been looking for.

Franklin
Message: Posted by: Withnail (Feb 3, 2013 01:06PM)
Only 16? Pah. I demand at least 18...

Order in...
Message: Posted by: John C (Feb 3, 2013 06:53PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-03 09:15, The Paranormalist wrote:
I thinks the part that appeals to me the most is that NIX4 has sixteen moments of amazement. Just what I have been looking for.

Franklin
[/quote]

An old girlfriend said that to me once. Not bragging but ....
Message: Posted by: The Paranormalist (Feb 4, 2013 04:54AM)
[/quote]

An old girlfriend said that to me once. Not bragging but ....
[/quote]

But did she fulfil her promise? LOL
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Feb 4, 2013 06:18AM)
An old girlfriend said that to me once. Not bragging but ....


16 ey... those were the days
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Feb 4, 2013 09:34AM)
Good news for who?
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Feb 4, 2013 02:56PM)
[quote]
On 2013-01-28 02:39, JackMagic wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-01-27 16:55, cheeky wrote:
Cant find any release date on Pauls site, when does it ship out?
[/quote]

Once he has sold enough pre orders to fund the project !
[/quote]

Nope.

The book wasn't even announced until all the writing was done and final editing changes made. I have talked a long time with PB about the development and delivery of NIX4 and I know that before opening the pre-order he had already invested a significant amount of time and money on it (he hired me in my professional capacity as a technical illustrator to produce the internal artwork for the books at my industry rate, a cost which I know would make the eyes of most magic book producers pop). My understanding is that what is currently happening is delivery of the final production proof and then providing all is well, presumably, PB will press go [BUT DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT!].

Paul is a pal of mine but it was clear from the beginning that he wanted this handled as a full commercial project, not as a mate or a favour. I got a text draft to work with which had extensive editing notes on it - whoever handled that for him has done a very comprehensive job. He is printing it with the assistance of a high grade printer in the UK. If there are any delays at this point it is because Paul is an exacting client (unfortunately for me) and wants everything to be right, more so with a limited release like this than on anything else (this is the impression I got at least!).

Paul isn't one of the guys who hypes, waits for the money and then bungs out a duff manuscript. NIX4 has been cooking for a long time even before I came in on it last year and I hope you guys think it is worth the wait.

Phill
Message: Posted by: Smoking Camel (Feb 4, 2013 03:56PM)
Phill.. How many drawings in total? Will Paul let you post your fav one as a "sneak peak?"
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Feb 4, 2013 04:49PM)
There are around 75 I think, although a few of them are just of envelopes or the like so useful for visualising the effect but not terribly artistic. The effect isn't really technically demanding but it does require good blocking and you have to really understand the flow of it - we talked a long time about how to best show it on the page so everyone will understand.

Probably my favourite is this sequence that shows the optimal way to fold up and tear off a piece of paper from a pad. It isn't a magic technique in any way, but Paul was insistent that it was THE BEST WAY to do it (?!). We shot a whole load of photos to explore how to show it and I kept asking "Er, you're SURE you want me to draw all these steps?"

Pretty much everything is explained in this detail.
Message: Posted by: timlic (Feb 5, 2013 06:34AM)
For me, Paul is a great thinker and therefore I didn't hesitate to get in on this; Especially if there's only 200 made.

Looking forward to receiving mine.
Message: Posted by: Atticus R. Cane (Feb 5, 2013 09:53AM)
I think I figured out how it's done.

I can't say much on an open forum, but I do believe it involves the monkey from Mind, Myth, and Magick.
Message: Posted by: Smoking Camel (Feb 5, 2013 03:15PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-04 17:49, phillsmiff wrote:


Probably my favourite is this sequence that shows the optimal way to fold up and tear off a piece of paper from a pad. It isn't a magic technique in any way, but Paul was insistent that it was THE BEST WAY to do it (?!). We shot a whole load of photos to explore how to show it and I kept asking "Er, you're SURE you want me to draw all these steps?"

Pretty much everything is explained in this detail.
[/quote]

Having reviewed the drawing... I concur with Paul.... He has stumbled upon the best way to tear paper from a pad.

On a separate note.... Having read the description a couple of times I take it this routine can't be split into pieces to be woven in amongst a bigger set.

Any chance of a front cover peak?
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Feb 6, 2013 03:50AM)
There's a monkey in mind myth magick??? I'll have to reread it.
Message: Posted by: EricDraven (Feb 6, 2013 03:57AM)
So glad I don't live in the rue morgue...

[quote]
On 2013-02-05 10:53, Atticus R. Cane wrote:
I think I figured out how it's done.

I can't say much on an open forum, but I do believe it involves the monkey from Mind, Myth, and Magick.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: LukeB (Feb 6, 2013 08:48AM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-04 10:34, parmenion wrote:
Good news for who?
[/quote]

Doth protest too much
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Feb 6, 2013 04:14PM)
The cover is pretty much the same as the one on the NIX4 site http://www.paulbrook.co.uk/heknows/nix4.html but with some minor alignment changes that no normal human will ever see.

I did make sure that the first load of proofs I sent him had his name as Paul Brookes, because he loves that and I am a super good friend ;-)
There are some additional chapter heading bits and pieces that are pretty cool, and a few little flourishes here and there, but that is it. It should be good, I know a lot of work has gone into it (Mainly from PB himself). I saw him perform it at a private gig in 2011 after what I think was already a long period of development - we have discussed it a fair bit since then so he has been working it and working on it since then at least.

Phill
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Feb 9, 2013 12:04PM)
Still waitin ....
Message: Posted by: nique (Feb 11, 2013 07:46PM)
When does this ship?.
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Feb 12, 2013 04:01AM)
I've just received a mail stating there were some problems with the printing. And at the end of this week paul would receive the proof and if everything is as it should be he would then order the printing of the 200 books.

if it sells out in pre-order there's a chance one of us gets their copy free. There are no reviews off course but paul has allowed us to share some words by BOB CASSIDY:

*"NIX4 contains some wonderful subtleties, elements of dual reality, and
a few logical disconnects that perfectly disguise the amazingly simple
methods. NIX4 has all of the elements of great mentalism - humour,
mystery, great audience interaction, very visual and, to top it all off,
a surprise ending. And they all mesh perfectly together like a
well-oiled machine.*

**

**

**

*I wish I had come up with it first!
*

*
Bob Cassidy

looks promising, I love dual reality
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Feb 13, 2013 09:22AM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-12 05:01, cougar261084 wrote:
I've just received a mail stating there were some problems with the printing.
[/quote]

Lucky I didn't make a big deal about how great his printers are :-/

Phill
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Feb 16, 2013 06:43AM)
Any release date on this yet Paul ?
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Feb 17, 2013 12:33PM)
The faster you order thislimited gem, the surer you are of your copy, half have already been sold. that's what it said in the update mail
Message: Posted by: Davit Sicseek (Feb 18, 2013 08:21PM)
Well assuming that at some stage in the future this "limited gem" will sell out - then you are of course right. I doubt they will sell out any time soon - if they do, people might have to pick up this "limited gem" on the second hand market. How many mentalism releases form the last five years currently sell for more than their original price on the second hand market? I can think of only a couple.
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Feb 19, 2013 11:43AM)
Spoilsport
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Feb 21, 2013 07:14AM)
The books should be hitting Paul's front door in a matter of days, then he will be sending them out!

Exciting!!!!
Message: Posted by: Dave Nic (Feb 21, 2013 04:51PM)
Almost clicked the buy button, I absolutely love Paul's releases. I'm just trying to work out whether I need ALL of them. Surely not @@
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Feb 28, 2013 11:57AM)
I understand PB has taken delivery of the full print run now and will be getting them out ASAP.

Phill
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Feb 28, 2013 01:01PM)
Heres hoping I get a free one
Message: Posted by: Dave Nic (Feb 28, 2013 08:08PM)
Wasnt the free copy given to one of the buyers only if Paul sold out before official release?

I could be wrong?..
Message: Posted by: CaMagic51 (Mar 1, 2013 02:28AM)
He extended the sell-out date for the free copy contest.
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Mar 1, 2013 04:54AM)
And I am a buyer, anyway they have arrived at his door and he's sending them out
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Mar 1, 2013 07:59AM)
From Paul:

"Those who have pre-ordered the book, your book is in the postal system and making its way to you."

:applause:

Derek
Message: Posted by: CaMagic51 (Mar 1, 2013 09:48AM)
There is a review by Bob Cassidy at Paul's website.
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Mar 1, 2013 12:29PM)
The review by bob has been quoted in this topic already
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Mar 1, 2013 12:32PM)
The only thing that bothers me about paul's product pages is that you are either a uk buyer or an american :D

I'm from belgium ordering in pounds would have been cheaper for me than the us dollar. Apparantly europe isn't acknowledged. The euro will dominate all mwuhahahahaha
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 1, 2013 12:54PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-01 13:29, cougar261084 wrote:
The review by bob has been quoted in this topic already
[/quote]

What was quoted is from the introduction/foreward I wrote for the book. It's not a review.
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Mar 1, 2013 01:47PM)
In some cases it's no difference, in yours it is quite a difference :) ... Jan
Message: Posted by: Mike Ince (Mar 1, 2013 06:28PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-06 04:50, cougar261084 wrote:
There's a monkey in mind myth magick??? I'll have to reread it.
[/quote]

I dropped the spider monkey from the act for throwing his own "ectoplasm" at my seance guests.

Regarding NIX4, I'm in.
Message: Posted by: The Paranormalist (Mar 2, 2013 03:12AM)
It's arrived; number 77 has just plummeted through my letter box. Now I just can't wait to read it.

Franklin
Message: Posted by: Dave Nic (Mar 2, 2013 04:18AM)
As per the other thread, please tell is once you have consumed this tasty morsel!
Message: Posted by: The Paranormalist (Mar 2, 2013 05:17AM)
In fear of repeating myself from 'Penny':
Well okay... I've just read the forward by Bob Cassidy, the Introduction and What They (the audience) See. Up to page 49 the Explanation and it reads nothing short of f*****g brilliant.

Anyway I can't read anymore at the moment because I'm also getting ready for a show now, so I'm savouring the rest till I get back.

Also if you want to know how the big picture finishes you will have to get it yourself. All I can say is, "this really is something special".

Franklin
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Mar 2, 2013 06:49AM)
It's here, OMG ! #100 How cool!
Message: Posted by: Dave Nic (Mar 2, 2013 07:59AM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-02 06:17, The Paranormalist wrote:

Also if you want to know how the big picture finishes you will have to get it yourself. All I can say is, "this really is something special".

Franklin
[/quote]

Oh do not fear, I for one will see the big picture=)Paul is like a black hole for my money. He says 'here tis' and my money disappears. 7 times in a row so far.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Mar 2, 2013 01:48PM)
I have decided to submit a short review of Nix4. I don't really want to because I genuinely hope no-one else in Scotland performs this. I'm writing this review because Paul deserves the recognition for an incredible piece of work.

So what do you get for your money? Well a beautifully produced 226pp hardback book with dust cover. The book is lavishly illustrated with impeccable line drawings by the expert hand of our very own Pill Smith.

The book contains a fully detailed explanation of Paul Brook's working routine NIX4. The book is broken down into the following sections;

Forward (by Bob Cassidy no less!!)
Introduction
NIX4 (How the audience sees it)
Explanation (an overview)
Preparation
The Set Up
The Process
Subtleties (a huge section)
Full Script with Blocking
Parting Words

Paul covers every single aspect of this routine you could ever think of, absolutely everything, yes, everything, no really.

The routine itself is BRILLIANT. It has been incredibly well constructed, it has natural fluidity. The actual routine is very strong, with multiple moments of amazement and a fantastic finish that will bring the house down.

I love everything about this routine. It is a masterpiece and Paul should be very proud of his work.

Gladly, this is a limited addition because I fully intend to use this, this is a show closer.

Thank you Paul.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Mar 2, 2013 02:39PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-02 14:48, kinesis wrote:

The book is lavishly illustrated with impeccable line drawings by the expert hand of our very own Pill Smith.

[/quote]

Sorry about the typo, that should read Phill Smith obviously.
Message: Posted by: The Paranormalist (Mar 2, 2013 07:25PM)
I couldn't agree more, it's ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT. Worth every penny.

Thanks Paul.
Message: Posted by: Isper (Mar 3, 2013 12:01AM)
Can this be performed in languages other than English, or is it heavily English specific or dependent?
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 3, 2013 01:12AM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-03 01:01, Isper wrote:
Can this be performed in languages other than English, or is it heavily English specific or dependent?
[/quote]

I don't see any reason that it couldn't be done in any language.
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Mar 3, 2013 03:42AM)
Curious to see what number I get
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Mar 3, 2013 04:59AM)
Thanks for your input :) Jan
Message: Posted by: Isper (Mar 4, 2013 06:40AM)
Thank you for the language information. Looks like I'll be taking the plunge.
Message: Posted by: CarlZen (Mar 4, 2013 07:06AM)
It will even work in Swahili .
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Mar 4, 2013 09:23AM)
I was excited to have this pressed into my hand by the postman this morning, then I remembered I read it months ago :P

Phill
Message: Posted by: brehaut (Mar 4, 2013 03:01PM)
Took the plunge....
Message: Posted by: espkeith (Mar 5, 2013 07:29AM)
Just waiting for this one to sneak across the pond to me.
Message: Posted by: John Locke (Mar 5, 2013 04:10PM)
I received my copy of NIX4 in Canada this afternoon. It is highly readable and describes the effect in 201 pages. This is one effect (rather than four) and it is better proofread than some of Paul's publications.

The effect described includes some four effects which are nicely sequenced or woven together and they are said to comprise a 20 minute routine.

There are several short chapters at the end of the book dealing with some alternative approaches and/or dealing with participant management.

Although I will have to refresh my knowledge of what the equivalents of C5, A3 and A4 stationary in North America amount to, this is a valuable course on presenting a fascinating routine as well as constructing the materials required.

John McLachlan
Message: Posted by: tmoca (Mar 5, 2013 05:57PM)
NIX4...happy number "69"...hahah...arrived safely in my mailbox today. I am in the states. I have yet to start reading, but a quick flip through shows that it is written and formatted in typical "Paul Brook Style"

Can't wait to get into it!
Message: Posted by: ThatsJustWrong! (Mar 5, 2013 08:55PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-03 02:12, mastermindreader wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-03-03 01:01, Isper wrote:
Can this be performed in languages other than English, or is it heavily English specific or dependent?
[/quote]

I don't see any reason that it couldn't be done in any language.
[/quote]

Woot! That's great to hear but I'm getting a little nervous. My copy hasn't arrived yet and now I want to get it translated into Latin in time to close my Papal Investiture!
Message: Posted by: nique (Mar 6, 2013 12:46AM)
Over the years, being where I am - I've kinda gotten used to waiting for anything I order from anywhere! :)

~ Nique
Message: Posted by: Atticus R. Cane (Mar 7, 2013 01:01PM)
I came home to number 51 last night!
Message: Posted by: tgaffney (Mar 10, 2013 07:12AM)
How good is this?

Well I have cut a part of my show that I have been doing for
more than 10 years to replace it with NIX4!

It's great and it kills.
Can't wait fr the book to sell out to limit those doing it.
Message: Posted by: lucavolpe (Mar 10, 2013 11:20AM)
Why is arrived to Canada and not yet in Italy??
:(
Message: Posted by: eSamuels (Mar 10, 2013 11:25AM)
....waiting.....waiting.....loading....loading.....waiting...waiting
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Mar 10, 2013 11:55AM)
Can someone please attack this product already??? I want to take the plunge - but I know its true gold when someone starts badmouthing it in a way its clearly jealousy... hasn't happened yet...

Seriously - one question for the owners - is it so scripted that it would be hard to shift/change the presentation themes and angles to make it one's "own" so to speak... it sounds so well put together, lets say I wanted to present it as something darker... using for example, a sinister supercomputer M.E.D.I.U.M. or I want to make it more supernatural spirit like... can it be done? (I do that to everything I get anyway - but some things are more anti-deconstruction than others)... i.e. can one even take bits and pieces and place them into other acts and routines?

(I am assuming so - but hey, lets get it out! Also, I see a few Torontonians have already got it - so as I live here, if I get it I want to mask it into something looking very different than the original using the bones of the NIX)
Message: Posted by: Simon (Ted) Edwards (Mar 10, 2013 12:20PM)
You can (and should) use your own presentation.
And you could certainly choose 'modules' of method for new effects.
T.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Mar 10, 2013 12:30PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-10 13:20, Simon (Ted) Edwards wrote:
You can (and should) use your own presentation.
And you could certainly choose 'modules' of method for new effects.
T.
[/quote]
This I know - but was wondering how NIX is for doing so.
Message: Posted by: Simon (Ted) Edwards (Mar 10, 2013 01:44PM)
I know - I was saying that you can/should with NIX :)
T.
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Mar 10, 2013 03:44PM)
You can, you should... And it is a wonderful routine. And I am lucky: if I would or will do it there will be not many German speaking mentalists doing it or similar. For those knowing it: I love the alternative for using chairs, it opens up so nice options for a different play.
IMHO one of the best, if not the best work and writing of Paul until now. And I've all of them. Jan
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Mar 10, 2013 05:06PM)
Dr Spektor, I was chatting to PB yesterday and expressed my surprise that no-one has got the hump about it yet, quite a rarity!
Much of what gives the project its value is the extensive detail PB gives the presentation and scripting, the results of his own development, but there is nothing stopping you from stripping this presentation right down and rebuilding the effect from the ground up in whatever premise you desire. If you follow the path outlined in the core script you can colour it with whatever theme you want and still hit all the beats. It is flexible in that regard I believe.

Jan, I know what you mean about the alternative, when Paul mentioned that I actually liked it more, I think it would suit me better and it opens up some new approaches. (Dr S: see? Flexible!)

Phill
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Mar 10, 2013 11:06PM)
Very cool - I'll buy it - even if it hasn't been attacked yet!!!!
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Mar 11, 2013 04:45AM)
Just to clarify, although I was involved in the development of the book I've been paid and don't profit from it in any way.

Phill
Message: Posted by: Stefan O. (Mar 11, 2013 06:11AM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-10 16:44, JanForster wrote:
And I am lucky: if I would or will do it there will be not many German speaking mentalists doing it or similar. [/quote]

Well... now there is one more German mentalist who does it :)
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Mar 11, 2013 08:01AM)
:)
Message: Posted by: espkeith (Mar 11, 2013 08:14AM)
About half-way through it...but whenever I read anything by PB...I'm always a bit underwhelmed at first...until I read it again...and then I'm yelling out loud "you devious bastage!" :bg:

Thank you, Paul!
Message: Posted by: Richard Doyle (Mar 11, 2013 10:59AM)
Moved
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Mar 11, 2013 12:01PM)
Curt, but yes, it is very moving.
Message: Posted by: EricDraven (Mar 11, 2013 07:12PM)
Hey I hoped I would be the only one in Germany...
:D
Message: Posted by: voh002 (Mar 12, 2013 02:49AM)
I like this book. Well written and good explanations. The hole routine it self is very good. My only issue is the lie detection part. I know that some of my audience will mess this up. I often perform for people that are on the influence of alcohol, and it will be a bit complicated for them. I have done Marc Paul`s "True Lies", and it was similar problems there. This is of course a personally point of view, but for me I have to go around that part of the routine, and I have a few good ideas how to do that.

Anyway, it is a very good book that I can recommend to others doing stage mentalism :)
Message: Posted by: THB (Mar 12, 2013 09:41AM)
Did you guys receive any purchase confirmation other than the paypal?

I didn't. no racking number. so I have no idea what is happening. was it the same for all of you?
Message: Posted by: nique (Mar 12, 2013 09:56AM)
Didn't get a tracking number, but number 82 only just arrived today in the mail. If you were one of the pre-order group you should be getting it soon.

~ Nique
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Mar 12, 2013 10:08AM)
123 german mentalist bought it! ;-)
Message: Posted by: THB (Mar 12, 2013 10:24AM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-12 10:56, nique wrote:
Didn't get a tracking number, but number 82 only just arrived today in the mail. If you were one of the pre-order group you should be getting it soon.

~ Nique
[/quote]

Thanks Nique.
No , I don't think I am a preorder, which is why I just want to make sure that order is being processed.

I would have appreciated a confirmation from paul as well as my paypal.

I guess ill just wait and see...
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Mar 12, 2013 10:51AM)
Email Paul directly if you have a query, you'll not get hold of him on here.

Phill
Message: Posted by: THB (Mar 12, 2013 11:37AM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-12 11:51, phillsmiff wrote:
Email Paul directly if you have a query, you'll not get hold of him on here.

Phill
[/quote]

Thanks Phil,

I did, and no response as of yet. but ill continue on that road. I'm sure all is good. :)

thanks all.
Message: Posted by: Dave Nic (Mar 13, 2013 04:53AM)
#107 =) has arrived! Have not had a chance to read it but am looking foward to it :)
Message: Posted by: learachel (Mar 13, 2013 05:55AM)
Number 131 ;-)
Message: Posted by: Demitri (Mar 13, 2013 08:33AM)
#14 arrived last week, and though I'm only half way through it, I couldn't be happier!

It combines a number of my favorite concepts into a strong, cohesive performance piece. As with all of Paul's work that I've read, he breaks the process down to the simplest possible structure, then builds layer upon layer of presentation to squeeze every ounce of effect out of it. His exhaustive attention to the most minute of details is incredible. There have been so many releases where the presentation is simply glossed over, and you get a few paragraphs about the performance. With Paul, you get every detail - every move, every word. While I won't use the script word-for-word, I love that you can see every nook and cranny, which makes the foundation easier for you to build upon.

It certainly doesn't need to be performed exactly as written, and again, Paul's attention to detail is what allows you to see places where variation can be placed. This was not a small investment for me, but it was certainly worthwhile, and I'm glad I took the plunge.
Message: Posted by: nique (Mar 13, 2013 11:45AM)
Question for those who've read the routine: Would you tell the audience and the participants how many of each "roles" there are, before the roles are assigned? Or would you wait till the reveal with the 5th spectator, to tell them that you knew that there are 2 of one and 3 of the other (thus explaining the process of elimination)?

Hope that made sense. PM me your thoughts if you feel that would be better. Thanks guys!

~ Nique
Message: Posted by: THB (Mar 13, 2013 11:55AM)
110 for me :)

all good.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Mar 13, 2013 02:12PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-13 12:45, nique wrote:
Question for those who've read the routine: Would you tell the audience and the participants how many of each "roles" there are, before the roles are assigned? Or would you wait till the reveal with the 5th spectator, to tell them that you knew that there are 2 of one and 3 of the other (thus explaining the process of elimination)?

Hope that made sense. PM me your thoughts if you feel that would be better. Thanks guys!

~ Nique
[/quote]

I'm not completely sure I understand your question. As far as I am aware, roles are only revealed / discerned as each individual is questioned.
Message: Posted by: brehaut (Mar 13, 2013 03:24PM)
Still waiting :(
Message: Posted by: nique (Mar 13, 2013 08:37PM)
Hey Derek!

What I mean is, it's mentioned that after you know the first 4 roles, then the 5th (by the time you get to him) is obvious through a process of elimination because you have to have known how many of each role there are to begin with (they're your envelopes after all). This is why the 5th spectator is handled through the use of a prediction. Page 34 will be the point in the routine I'm referring to here.

Think of it as already correctly returning 4 out of 5 drawings in a Sneak Thief type of routine; obviously the last drawing is the last spectator's.

My question is, do you tell the audience from the start that there are 3 truth tellers and 2 liars, before you distribute the envelopes? It should be obvious that you know, but should we openly state it as well?

~ Nique
Message: Posted by: sweeney (Mar 13, 2013 10:17PM)
Still waiting ...
:-(
Message: Posted by: Mike Ince (Mar 14, 2013 01:00AM)
I received mine in the mail today. Paul explains lots of subtleties that show he's performed this many times. It's easy to understand and very good in that Berglasian way. I love doing the chair test part without using a NW. I also love using "Berglasian" in a sentence.

My only qualm has to do with the condition of the book when it arrived. It was shipped from the UK to my mailbox here in Texas, not in a protective box but in a bubble-pack airmail envelope. Along the way it must have been dropped and dinged at least once if not taken out and read in the toilet by a postal worker. This book had a hard journey overseas and needed better protection from haphazard handling. After paying $160 it was disappointing opening the envelope to find my brand new book in less than pristine condition.

All that aside, NIX4 is every bit as good as reviewers have written here and if you order it new from Paul he'll receive his deserved support. If you live outside the UK I advise that you ask Paul to ship your copy in a box instead of an envelope to protect the investment. If you live in the UK your postal workers are nicer and you shouldn't see any damage when your book arrives.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Mar 14, 2013 03:47AM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-13 21:37, nique wrote:
Hey Derek!

What I mean is, it's mentioned that after you know the first 4 roles, then the 5th (by the time you get to him) is obvious through a process of elimination because you have to have known how many of each role there are to begin with (they're your envelopes after all). This is why the 5th spectator is handled through the use of a prediction. Page 34 will be the point in the routine I'm referring to here.

Think of it as already correctly returning 4 out of 5 drawings in a Sneak Thief type of routine; obviously the last drawing is the last spectator's.

My question is, do you tell the audience from the start that there are 3 truth tellers and 2 liars, before you distribute the envelopes? It should be obvious that you know, but should we openly state it as well?

~ Nique
[/quote]

Your answer is No, Why would it be obvious? What is on the cards is never rvealed to the audience. Check the full script and subtlties sections. What would it achieve but to take away from the effect.
Message: Posted by: brehaut (Mar 14, 2013 09:33AM)
#127----hope to post thoughts soon :)
Message: Posted by: Adam Hince (Mar 14, 2013 06:19PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-14 02:00, Mike Ince wrote:
I received mine in the mail today. Paul explains lots of subtleties that show he's performed this many times. It's easy to understand and very good in that Berglasian way. I love doing the chair test part without using a NW. I also love using "Berglasian" in a sentence.

My only qualm has to do with the condition of the book when it arrived. It was shipped from the UK to my mailbox here in Texas, not in a protective box but in a bubble-pack airmail envelope. Along the way it must have been dropped and dinged at least once if not taken out and read in the toilet by a postal worker. This book had a hard journey overseas and needed better protection from haphazard handling. After paying $160 it was disappointing opening the envelope to find my brand new book in less than pristine condition.

All that aside, NIX4 is every bit as good as reviewers have written here and if you order it new from Paul he'll receive his deserved support. If you live outside the UK I advise that you ask Paul to ship your copy in a box instead of an envelope to protect the investment. If you live in the UK your postal workers are nicer and you shouldn't see any damage when your book arrives.
[/quote]

I agree with everything you said, Mike.

NIX4 is an extremely well thought out routine and extremely economical. With so little "dirty work", you get a ton of mileage.

While my book doesn't sound as banged up as yours, all 4 corners of my book were dinged. For the hefty price tag, I wish Paul had packaged the goods better.

Regards,
-AH
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Mar 14, 2013 06:29PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-14 19:19, Adam Hince wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-03-14 02:00, Mike Ince wrote:
I received mine in the mail today. Paul explains lots of subtleties that show he's performed this many times. It's easy to understand and very good in that Berglasian way. I love doing the chair test part without using a NW. I also love using "Berglasian" in a sentence.

My only qualm has to do with the condition of the book when it arrived. It was shipped from the UK to my mailbox here in Texas, not in a protective box but in a bubble-pack airmail envelope. Along the way it must have been dropped and dinged at least once if not taken out and read in the toilet by a postal worker. This book had a hard journey overseas and needed better protection from haphazard handling. After paying $160 it was disappointing opening the envelope to find my brand new book in less than pristine condition.

All that aside, NIX4 is every bit as good as reviewers have written here and if you order it new from Paul he'll receive his deserved support. If you live outside the UK I advise that you ask Paul to ship your copy in a box instead of an envelope to protect the investment. If you live in the UK your postal workers are nicer and you shouldn't see any damage when your book arrives.
[/quote]

I agree with everything you said, Mike.

NIX4 is an extremely well thought out routine and extremely economical. With so little "dirty work", you get a ton of mileage.

While my book doesn't sound as banged up as yours, all 4 corners of my book were dinged. For the hefty price tag, I wish Paul had packaged the goods better.

Regards,
-AH
[/quote]

Yay some complaints - I am so happy I bought it...now to await it arriving
Message: Posted by: Mind Guerrilla (Mar 18, 2013 09:42PM)
“NIX4” promises that you “get to have a running joke/theme through your show that can help bring disassociated effects together... The fact that disparate effects can be bound together to form a more cohesive performance is, in my opinion, worth the price of this book alone.”

Except the “running theme” relies on your making no mistakes in any of your earlier effects. If you mess up early on, you now have to deal with an elephant-in-the-room which takes the form of "2nd Chance" envelope staring down at the audience from an easel. The book does not address this scenario, despite the author's claim “I give you everything and leave out nothing.” So, unless you can guarantee the rest of your act will come off flawlessly, I'd say you're asking for trouble if you attempt to use this running gag idea. As a practical matter then, NIX4 is reduced to a standalone effect.

Although described as “virtually self-working” with a skill level of “easy,” the effect relies on five spectators following your instructions. What could possibly go wrong? :goof: You remember what a spectator is, right? It's the type of creature who occasionally give a glassy-eyed look of confusion when asked to cut a deck of cards (or to say their own name). In my opinion, the possibility of a screw-up is directly proportional to the number of volunteers you rely on to follow instructions. The author does discuss how to deal with certain screw-ups but, still, so much for "easy" and "self-working."

The ad says the effect is suitable for parlor or stage. Because of the method employed, I would think you would want to limit performance to one before a very large crowd- to minimize the possible harm of volunteers discussing their experience after the show. Even better if you can select audience members who came alone/purchased a single ticket (to cut down on the number of people they might blab to). So much for the parlor.

The key to the effect- what's written on the cards inside the envelopes- is clever. If this idea is the author's creation, he's to be lauded. I assume it [i]is[/i] his own, since no credit to any predecessor is given. The effect is as good as any that may have been featured in Bascom Jones' MAGICK back in the day. It might even have had an entire issue devoted to it. But a copy of MAGICK never cost $150. The way “NIX4” has been fluffed up to a 226 page hardcover limited edition business is worth discussing.

What do I mean by “fluffed up?” Well, it's a 226 page book only technically. Books traditionally start numbering their pages after the foreword and introduction. Here the numbering starts from the first page. The book [i]proper[/i] actually starts on page 19. Also, books traditionally don't continue their page count for the back page advertisements. This one does- 24 pages worth.

The book also has many blank pages. Purely for aesthetics, I'm sure. Each chapter title gets a page all its own and this is followed by a blank page. In total there are 40 blank pages. That's almost enough to turn me into an environmentalist. ;)

Let's look at some of the other artistic choices that were made to contribute to the 226 page count. Entire sections are devoted to material another author may have been able to present as a single sentence or paragraph. For example, by listing 8 required items as bullet points, three sentences become an entire section called “Preparation.” Of course, the very next page is blank (presumably to allow the reader to catch their breath after reading a Staples shopping list). This is followed by a section called “Preparation: Envelope Words,” in which the reader is essentially told to write 5 words on 5 envelopes. In case the reader is unclear as to what a [i]word[/i] looks like, there are five separate illustrations: each individual word in block letters inside a rectangle. Taken together with the preceding section, that makes 6 pages dedicated to, essentially, 4 or 5 paragraphs of material.

After seeing how careful the author is, going so far as to remind us what words look like, the reader might feel confident that he/she will be taken by the hand and will have every step exhaustively illustrated. However, while there are many illustrations (including pictures of chairs, in case the reader has never encountered such a sophisticated apparatus), there are none devoted to the one piece of “tomfoolery” in the effect. That's right- the number of illustrations for the “one deceptive move” “at the very heart of NIX4” is [i]zero[/i].

One section is dedicated to describing the construction of a thick card- due to concerns over strong stage lighting and chairs “that have holes in the lumbar section of the back rest.” Are there pictures of these types of chairs, which so vex the author? You're way ahead of me. No, there are not. All the chairs illustrated are of the non-lumbar-hole variety. Speaking of chairs, no concern is shown for one of the more common types you're liable to run into- the folding chair whose backrest has a curved or rounded top. Why should this be an issue? Because the instructions call for placing a rubber band around the backrest. With a rounded top, there's more of a chance of the rubber band sliding up and popping off (I think a lot of time and effort would have been spared by eliminating the chairs altogether or by instructing the reader to just tape the cards to the underside of the seats.).

I'll also mention that there are [b]four[/b] pages devoted to explaining how to rip a sheet of paper off a pad (fully illustrated, of course). We have clearly entered You-Have-Got-To-Be-Pulling-My-Leg territory at this point.

Until now, I had avoided hopping on the “limited edition” bandwagon. Because of the positive reviews on this thread, I decided to take the plunge with this book. Thanks, guys. :) I passed on “Whisper” and “This Way Up” for fear that they would turn out to be pretty much what “NIX4” turned out to be. If anyone owns either of those other volumes, maybe you could you confirm or deny this. Also...would you care to swap for a copy of “NIX4?” :)
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Mar 19, 2013 03:41AM)
I have the book (and at least one of the mentioned you didn't go for) and you still make me laugh... Of course you are right, but your criticized points were no surprise for me anymore... I still think the routine is well constructed, but I saw your concerns as well. There are solutions. It is not a problem for me as I never expect anything to be perfect. On the other hand I know that I perform some routines of my own which I consider being almost perfect. But I would not put them in print as long as I still perform them - but that's me. Jan
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Mar 19, 2013 04:10AM)
New downloadable supplement:
Page to be inserted between pages 72 and 73 in NIX4
I hope this clarifies things.

Phill
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Mar 19, 2013 04:22AM)
I've read Mind Guerrilla's post and take on-board what he is saying but have to disagree with most of it.

Just in case Mind Geurrilla's post put's you off NIX4, I'd like to reply to many of his issues

The running gag - If you screw up elsewhere during the show you should have already considered potential 'outs' so that your screw-up is invisible or appear intentional. Or introduce the card specifically for the routine explaining that there is great potential for things going wrong during this segment and that you have brought in an escape clause. Or just don't use the running gag at all. ADAPT the routine to suit your style which is what you should do with all routines.

Working with people - The routine, like any chair routine, requires that participants are involved. If you are performing on stage you should have good audience management skills and script the routine so that you have several checks in place to ensure that every participant FULLY understands what is required of them. I think Paul does a good job in covering many possible scenarios

Number of pages - I don't buy books based on number of pages, quality not quantity. Yes there was padding. There was also a heck of a lot of detail from Paul. He covers what is essentially quite a simple routine in great detail. Paul covers a lot more than most when writing up a routine. You won't find the words "using your favourite method" written in this book.

The Deceptive move - It's not even a move! It's explained and doesn't require any further explanation. This is an expensive book that is priced for experienced performers. If you are struggling with this then rethink your occupation.

Tearing paper from a pad, chairs and card construction - Mind Guerrilla, really, is this a point of contention you find worthy to include in your review. I use double thickness card stuck to the back of my chairs with velcro dots. I hope this helps.

I like NIX4, so does Bob Cassidy but what would he know :) I don't think it's perfect but I do believe it's a solid working piece that can be easily adapted to suit most performing styles and presentations.

Derek
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Mar 19, 2013 08:36AM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-19 05:10, phillsmiff wrote:
New downloadable supplement:
Page to be inserted between pages 72 and 73 in NIX4
I hope this clarifies things.

Phill
[/quote]

:) Thanks, Phill, that was an important missing piece in the book, now I understand... ;)
Nevertheless - as I wrote before - I would prefer to do it without chairs anyway... Jan
Message: Posted by: eric6 (Mar 19, 2013 09:35AM)
Hi Phill,

How can I get the download update ?
Thanks
Eric
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Mar 19, 2013 10:01AM)
The link is on my post but please brace yourself for massive disappointment.

Phill
Message: Posted by: Steve Suss (Mar 19, 2013 10:09AM)
While I'm sure Mind Guerrilla's review is not 100% perfect I would respect his reviews any time. You can sense they are unbiased and honest. Thanks for a great review.
Steve
Message: Posted by: the Sponge (Mar 19, 2013 10:15AM)
Yes, thank you Mind Guerrilla for an entertaining review. And thank you Phill for an amusing, yet appropriate and helpful reply.

s
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Mar 19, 2013 12:15PM)
In case it's not obvious, what I wrote in the forward to the book was based on the content, not the ultimate layout.

I stand by what I wrote.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Mar 19, 2013 01:25PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-18 22:42, Mind Guerrilla wrote:
“NIX4” promises that you “get to have a running joke/theme through your show that can help bring disassociated effects together... The fact that disparate effects can be bound together to form a more cohesive performance is, in my opinion, worth the price of this book alone.”

Except the “running theme” relies on your making no mistakes in any of your earlier effects. If you mess up early on, you now have to deal with an elephant-in-the-room which takes the form of "2nd Chance" envelope staring down at the audience from an easel. The book does not address this scenario, despite the author's claim “I give you everything and leave out nothing.” So, unless you can guarantee the rest of your act will come off flawlessly, I'd say you're asking for trouble if you attempt to use this running gag idea. As a practical matter then, NIX4 is reduced to a standalone effect.

Although described as “virtually self-working” with a skill level of “easy,” the effect relies on five spectators following your instructions. What could possibly go wrong? :goof: You remember what a spectator is, right? It's the type of creature who occasionally give a glassy-eyed look of confusion when asked to cut a deck of cards (or to say their own name). In my opinion, the possibility of a screw-up is directly proportional to the number of volunteers you rely on to follow instructions. The author does discuss how to deal with certain screw-ups but, still, so much for "easy" and "self-working."

The ad says the effect is suitable for parlor or stage. Because of the method employed, I would think you would want to limit performance to one before a very large crowd- to minimize the possible harm of volunteers discussing their experience after the show. Even better if you can select audience members who came alone/purchased a single ticket (to cut down on the number of people they might blab to). So much for the parlor.

The key to the effect- what's written on the cards inside the envelopes- is clever. If this idea is the author's creation, he's to be lauded. I assume it [i]is[/i] his own, since no credit to any predecessor is given. The effect is as good as any that may have been featured in Bascom Jones' MAGICK back in the day. It might even have had an entire issue devoted to it. But a copy of MAGICK never cost $150. The way “NIX4” has been fluffed up to a 226 page hardcover limited edition business is worth discussing.

What do I mean by “fluffed up?” Well, it's a 226 page book only technically. Books traditionally start numbering their pages after the foreword and introduction. Here the numbering starts from the first page. The book [i]proper[/i] actually starts on page 19. Also, books traditionally don't continue their page count for the back page advertisements. This one does- 24 pages worth.

The book also has many blank pages. Purely for aesthetics, I'm sure. Each chapter title gets a page all its own and this is followed by a blank page. In total there are 40 blank pages. That's almost enough to turn me into an environmentalist. ;)

Let's look at some of the other artistic choices that were made to contribute to the 226 page count. Entire sections are devoted to material another author may have been able to present as a single sentence or paragraph. For example, by listing 8 required items as bullet points, three sentences become an entire section called “Preparation.” Of course, the very next page is blank (presumably to allow the reader to catch their breath after reading a Staples shopping list). This is followed by a section called “Preparation: Envelope Words,” in which the reader is essentially told to write 5 words on 5 envelopes. In case the reader is unclear as to what a [i]word[/i] looks like, there are five separate illustrations: each individual word in block letters inside a rectangle. Taken together with the preceding section, that makes 6 pages dedicated to, essentially, 4 or 5 paragraphs of material.

After seeing how careful the author is, going so far as to remind us what words look like, the reader might feel confident that he/she will be taken by the hand and will have every step exhaustively illustrated. However, while there are many illustrations (including pictures of chairs, in case the reader has never encountered such a sophisticated apparatus), there are none devoted to the one piece of “tomfoolery” in the effect. That's right- the number of illustrations for the “one deceptive move” “at the very heart of NIX4” is [i]zero[/i].

One section is dedicated to describing the construction of a thick card- due to concerns over strong stage lighting and chairs “that have holes in the lumbar section of the back rest.” Are there pictures of these types of chairs, which so vex the author? You're way ahead of me. No, there are not. All the chairs illustrated are of the non-lumbar-hole variety. Speaking of chairs, no concern is shown for one of the more common types you're liable to run into- the folding chair whose backrest has a curved or rounded top. Why should this be an issue? Because the instructions call for placing a rubber band around the backrest. With a rounded top, there's more of a chance of the rubber band sliding up and popping off (I think a lot of time and effort would have been spared by eliminating the chairs altogether or by instructing the reader to just tape the cards to the underside of the seats.).

I'll also mention that there are [b]four[/b] pages devoted to explaining how to rip a sheet of paper off a pad (fully illustrated, of course). We have clearly entered You-Have-Got-To-Be-Pulling-My-Leg territory at this point.

Until now, I had avoided hopping on the “limited edition” bandwagon. Because of the positive reviews on this thread, I decided to take the plunge with this book. Thanks, guys. :) I passed on “Whisper” and “This Way Up” for fear that they would turn out to be pretty much what “NIX4” turned out to be. If anyone owns either of those other volumes, maybe you could you confirm or deny this. Also...would you care to swap for a copy of “NIX4?” :)
[/quote]

Well you made me feel better about my purchase... As now I believe it has good material it versus total strart a new religion etc baloney... Thanks!!! I haven't gotten it yet - but that was the one thing I was waiting for - a review that showed there is cool stuff in it but it isn't perch.

And please don't mention limited editions - gives me a headache :)
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Mar 22, 2013 04:26PM)
Mine arrived - and the corners are all pristine... must be the commonwealth countries connection - initial glance is its really detailed!!!!! Nice pics Phil! Now to figure out how to turn it into some nightmare evil presentation of dark inner chaos... fun fun fun!
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Mar 23, 2013 03:12PM)
Mine is not arrived!
Ok, in the same time, it's logical as I don't buy it.
Message: Posted by: brehaut (Mar 23, 2013 06:58PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-23 16:12, parmenion wrote:
Mine is not arrived!
Ok, in the same time, it's logical as I don't buy it.
[/quote]

Look forward to your review regardless
Message: Posted by: Michael Clifton (Mar 24, 2013 04:50AM)
Well the power of auction, seems to have elevated this work to double its price. Don't know whether it's because its Mr
Royles copy..lol But the fact that you can still pick this up from Paul has made me scratch my head and probably his too.
Current bid £190 with postage on your friendly auction web site. So after this post all remaining copies will be snapped
up and then resold...probably by Mr Royle himself.. ;)
Message: Posted by: Mind Guerrilla (Mar 24, 2013 01:14PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-14 04:47, kinesis wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-03-13 21:37, nique wrote:
Hey Derek!

What I mean is, it's mentioned that after you know the first 4 roles, then the 5th (by the time you get to him) is obvious through a process of elimination because you have to have known how many of each role there are to begin with (they're your envelopes after all). This is why the 5th spectator is handled through the use of a prediction. Page 34 will be the point in the routine I'm referring to here.

Think of it as already correctly returning 4 out of 5 drawings in a Sneak Thief type of routine; obviously the last drawing is the last spectator's.

My question is, do you tell the audience from the start that there are 3 truth tellers and 2 liars, before you distribute the envelopes? It should be obvious that you know, but should we openly state it as well?

~ Nique
[/quote]

Your answer is No, Why would it be obvious? What is on the cards is never rvealed to the audience. Check the full script and subtlties sections. What would it achieve but to take away from the effect.
[/quote]
Actually, I think it's the script that is causing the confusion. Near the end of the routine when the performer approaches volunteer #5, he says, “Obviously, you're a liar.” Why say “obviously” if no process of elimination has taken place?

[quote]
On 2013-03-19 05:22, kinesis wrote:
I've read Mind Guerrilla's post and take on-board what he is saying but have to disagree with most of it.

Just in case Mind Geurrilla's post put's you off NIX4, I'd like to reply to many of his issues

The running gag - If you screw up elsewhere during the show you should have already considered potential 'outs' so that your screw-up is invisible or appear intentional. Or introduce the card specifically for the routine explaining that there is great potential for things going wrong during this segment and that you have brought in an escape clause. Or just don't use the running gag at all. ADAPT the routine to suit your style which is what you should do with all routines.[/quote]
Some recoveries from screw ups may be invisible to your audience, some may not. It's the latter variety that will may have audience members wondering “Why didn't he use his 2nd Chance?” I guess you could pull out a marker and change “2nd Chance” to “3rd Chance” but I'd think it best not to tempt fate and leave NIX4 as a standalone final effect.

[quote]Working with people - The routine, like any chair routine, requires that participants are involved. If you are performing on stage you should have good audience management skills and script the routine so that you have several checks in place to ensure that every participant FULLY understands what is required of them. I think Paul does a good job in covering many possible scenarios[/quote]
I was addresing the author's claim that the effect is “self working.” I suppose our definitions of that term differ.

[quote]The Deceptive move - It's not even a move! It's explained and doesn't require any further explanation.[/quote]
Perhaps I didn't communicate my point clearly. I was discussing the number of imo unnecessary illustrations. By not showing the move- but showing us what chairs and words look like, how to tear a sheet of paper off a pad, etc.- it makes one wonder to what extent the illustrations are provided to be helpful and to what extent they are there simply to take up space.

[quote]This is an expensive book that is priced for experienced performers. If you are struggling with this then rethink your occupation.[/quote]
Then you agree it isn't “easy” and “self working.” Glad we've found some middle ground. :)

[quote]Tearing paper from a pad, chairs and card construction - Mind Guerrilla, really, is this a point of contention you find worthy to include in your review.[/quote]
Absolutely, as I was trying to convey how padded this book seems to be.

[quote]I like NIX4, so does Bob Cassidy but what would he know[/quote]
It's a fine effect if you're playing in a theater to a large crowd of people who don't know each other. Owing to the method and number of volunteers used, this is not the type of thing to do at, say, a business luncheon, before members of a private club, at a party, banquet, corporate show etc.
Message: Posted by: magicman29 (Mar 24, 2013 03:56PM)
Nice review mind guerilla ;)

Kieran
Message: Posted by: celebrity (Mar 24, 2013 05:22PM)
I've read hundreds of books on both magic and mentalism and yet I've never come across anything that is as meticulously explained as this.

Paul guides you methodically through each and every step of this multi phased routine providing the reader with in depth knowledge that could only have resulted from countless live performances.

The routine itself is beautiful, a true work of art. Each revelation building upon the last to an amazing climax fit to close the show of any serious mentalist.

The fact that this requires almost no skill whatsoever is a good enough reason to purchase this in itself but combined with the fact that this packs into an A4 folder makes this a must!

I yet again take my hat off to Mr.Brook for yet another first class product, you my friend are a genius!
Message: Posted by: Pete Legend (Mar 25, 2013 01:33PM)
Tom : Thanks for the review!

"I like NIX4, so does Bob Cassidy but what would he know :) " Yes I know the smile was there and probably said in jest but I find those comments very very annoying. They happen much too often. Just because a respected member in the community likes something does not mean all the rest are incorrect if they do not. Tom's opinion is just as important for me. Many authors, creators in the magic world scratch each other's backs so I take all these reviews with a pinch of salt. Not saying this is the case with Bob but I have bought an awful a lot of lets say "below par" material based on recommendations from the so called experts and often wonder do they actually perform in the real world and are they just helping their magic friend's out. My own personal example was Colin McLeod's recent work..I like Colin and enjoyed his previous creations but his lastest offering did not in my opinion match the positive reviews it got. I actually laughed when I read the book and went back over the "reviews" I offered my less than glowing review here hoping to give people a fair and balanced view rather than the typical,over hyped, all is well back slapping that usually goes on.

Negative reviews should be encouraged and treated with the same respect as positive ones. I often think people persuade themselves that what they purchased is actually good as they don't want to think that they have wasted their money ( I used to fall into that bracket). Person who offers a negative review as detailed as Tom's shouldn't have to defend it. I myself do a fair bit of corporate work, colleges and presentations to smaller groups so I appreciate the review.

Ok I'm off now to buy the next genius effect that will make my audience heads explode with extreme methods that fuse cutting edge technology with old school know how! ;)

P.S. Maybe I'm just cranky today :)
Message: Posted by: Steve Suss (Mar 25, 2013 01:52PM)
Pete, I agree with you 100%. No one should ever be criticized for giving an honest review.
Steve
Message: Posted by: phillsmiff (Mar 25, 2013 04:00PM)
I think it's clear from reading all the different reviews that everybody has their own take on the piece and that's why it is good to have negative as well as positive effects. I've heard of lectures which, in public, everyone has very openly and vociferously praised but in private have been excoriated. I am always wary of things with ONLY good reviews that mention nothing bad, because nothing is perfect and if no review mentions a downside then that makes me twitchy. I don't think Paul needs anyone to defend his work, it speaks for itself IMO.

All that said, I would mention that the illustrations absolutely were there ONLY to increase clarity, not to pad it out - if PB had wanted to brag about the number of pages and somehow use that to increase the profit margin he could just have taken copious photos and padded it out with them. As it is, having the illustrations pushed down his bottom line - each one cost money and he was adamant that they all be there. We had quite a long discussion about how necessary they were and PB said he occasionally had people contact him ref: previous books about weird minor things so he wanted to produce something that covered everything.

If anything is not in there I expect his response would be that he was miffed at having missed it, but I can't speak for Paul.

Phill
Message: Posted by: NYNick (Mar 27, 2013 04:44AM)
This is the best clear way to explain.Great stuff don't listen to the haters. They will miss out and that's fine.
Message: Posted by: Pete Legend (Mar 27, 2013 08:16AM)
Phil : Fair and balanced reply.

Nick : You totally missed the point.

Sound,

Pete "Hater" Carroll ;)
Message: Posted by: Mind Guerrilla (Mar 27, 2013 09:11PM)
I think the mind reading portion of NIX4 is clever and strong. I've adapted it into a routine using a single volunteer.

If you're a NIX4 owner and you want to check it out, PM me with the following info:

1) The # of your copy of NIX4 (If I get the same # from two different people, someone's gonna be in trouble!)
2) The last word on page 87 of NIX4 (to establish you have the book in your possession)
3) Your email address (so I can send you the PDF)
Message: Posted by: harbour (Mar 30, 2013 12:10PM)
Here's my two cents:
I own NIX4 and very happily so. Done well with a great audience, on a great night with the moon in the seventh house and jupiter aligned with mars, it is fantastic. On a few nights, challenges bear as it can in ANY performance. It is really up to the experience and confidence of the perfomer to steer his/her way through these... challenges. That goes for the perfomance of any and every effect and why we must always tailor our performances to oueselves. It is far easier to manage.
We are in sector that has a lot of lookers (mere collectors of information)and a lot of interest with some really good artists and performers.
Prices for effects and literature are high specifically to keep the former away and to limit exposure.
It is the price we pay.
Understanding that, it is natural to be cautious on these high priced items. Especially since exposure is growing more and more.
The best advice is to actually attend a performance so you can see it the effect for yourself or contacting the originator. Krause and Cassidy are great examples of that.
These forums are a great way to discern what "IT" really is... along with talking to the creator.
I have no problem with negative reviews as long as it does not expose anything about the effect. If it is disagreeable, challenge it. If it is wrong, challenge it. Even contact/pm one of the people with specific posts. With experience, you'll realize that the true discription lies between the originators notes and actual performer's posts... and even then it depends on the performer.
For the most part, we are a supportive community.
Let's keep it that way.
Message: Posted by: PatrickGregoire (Apr 22, 2013 08:17PM)
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On 2013-03-24 14:14, Mind Guerrilla wrote:

Actually, I think it's the script that is causing the confusion. Near the end of the routine when the performer approaches volunteer #5, he says, “Obviously, you're a liar.” Why say “obviously” if no process of elimination has taken place?

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Instead, say "I happen to know that there are 3 truth tellers and two liars in total, so by process of elimination - you're a liar."

Simple as that...

I'd like to hear from those who have used this so far. I own a copy and think it's brilliant but really want to hear how it's working with other performers if they've had a chance to perform it yet.