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Topic: 2 mans show. What kind of tricks.
Message: Posted by: Jonace (Apr 11, 2013 01:39AM)
Couple of times in a year I do a show With another magician just for fun. But we have a hard time making that to a positive thing. for eksempel is Chair suspension or an umbrella mystery often better to do With somone from the audience. So we often ends up doing some effects each, when we should use the fact that we are 2, in a positive way. Any suggestion on rutines or effects that you need to be 2 People. I know that illusions is one way to go, but how about something smaller. Everything is for family shows.
Message: Posted by: themagiciansapprentice (Apr 11, 2013 03:30AM)
Have a search for "Oz and Wilde" they developed two-man shows during the 2000's and were generous in giving away their lecture notes at FCM Conventions

eg one walks on with silk and one walks on with cane - then the cane becomes a silk and the silk becomes a wand

they developed comedy routines around many of the Chase's magic props - so one was the straight man, the other was the wacky/wrong guy
Message: Posted by: magicjoe (Apr 11, 2013 11:56AM)
Pour sugar in your hand and have long sugar pour out of friends hand
magi 1 has card selected, magi 2 stands on far side of stage. magi 1 throws cards at magi 2, magi 2 catches selected card in mouth.ie force, ripped corner, pre signed....
good luck
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Apr 11, 2013 12:22PM)
In one of David Ginn's older books ("Magic That Moves Me"), he shared about performing a two man show with Abb Dickson around 1968.

A routine with two performers and two sets of hippity hop rabbits is outlined (so, 4 rabbits total are used, instead of the normal set of 2). There are other routines in the book, too.

I've tried this one with my assistant, and it went well.

One performer "taught" the other the trick, is the premise that I used.

The other performer would watch the change from black to white, then act like they figured it out and then do it at the exact same time, then be surprised by doing the finale of the colour change to red and yellow in their own hands, etc.

It was great at the end, because performer #1 would do the silly turn around stuff, then show the finale of red and yellow. Then performer #2 had a panicked look for a moment, and then showed they also had red and yellow on the back of their bunnies.

I think it's called "Double Hippity Hop Rabbits" in the book.

- Donald
Message: Posted by: Jonace (Apr 11, 2013 05:11PM)
Wow thanks. Will Try to get some Of these books :) this is great!
Message: Posted by: charliecheckers (Apr 11, 2013 09:48PM)
All of my performances are two man performances. I think it takes quite a bit of time to develop such an act, in that it only works well if timing is correct between each other. I think that it would be too much time to put into a few shows a year. You are probably better off doing separate segments and focusing on just one or two effects that you perform together. Many standard effects can be reworked and presented as two man effects. I like it because it allows us to avoid gags being played on our audience in that we play them on each others. Especially for children shows- I find this to be much better received. In situations where the assistant is the star (like chair suspension) I agree, that you are better off keeping the audience member involved.
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Apr 11, 2013 10:18PM)
What is the difference between your characters?

Are you equals?

Are you in competition?

Is one of you the teacher?

If you describe your relationship with Magic it Makes the show more interesting and directed.

-Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: Jonace (Apr 12, 2013 03:19AM)
Charliecheckers: Good point. If I understand you correctly, you mean that I may use a sucker tricks against may other preformer, and just make the audience experience the "What?" feeling. Without them feeling "bad".

:)
Message: Posted by: Jonace (Apr 12, 2013 03:22AM)
Mary Mowder: Thanks. If we play Our normal caracters. I think I will me the angry and frustrated one, and the other person the happy and smiling helper maby.

I will think about this later.
Message: Posted by: harris (Apr 12, 2013 10:20AM)
Vanishing silk, appearing silk..

Appearing cane, disappearing cane...

One gets hit, the other feels the pain.

Ala the bottle and glass routine that Abbott and Costello did...one magi tries to trick the other during a routine...but the magic still happens.

The angry one doesn't believe in the magic..but is really the one that is doing the magic...

such as checking the cup to make sure it is really empty and goes ahead...and...

Harris
Message: Posted by: A Show By Joe (Apr 12, 2013 11:55AM)
I worked on a 2 man act with The Vanishing Bandanna trick. It was a running comment through the show that I was waiting for the trick to arrive. At the end of the show, my assistant tells me it just got there, and that I should open it and perform it while she stays on stage and packs up. With this it follows an Abbot and Costello feel, where I perform it and stop the CD about 3 times because of the instructions seem wrong. Every time I stop, my assistant would yell at me to keep going. Some slap stick here and there, and the audience gets involved with getting you to keep going as well. Works well for kids.
Message: Posted by: harris (Apr 12, 2013 12:27PM)
Close up magic would also open a deck of possibilities.

Will think on that line.
Message: Posted by: Jonace (Apr 13, 2013 02:26AM)
A Show By Joe: I love that trick. To bad it not makes sense in my Language.
:)
Message: Posted by: TheGreatNancini (Apr 13, 2013 03:02AM)
My son, Matthew and I only perform as a two person act. We use different props for each of our 5 different shows.

We are equals in the show, as I am certain Matthew would prefer someone other than his mother if he were to have a "Lovely Assistant", :)

Matthew writes all of our scripts and usually writes me as the "Straight Man" in the performance, while he is the "Comic". This works well for us, as it is who we are in real life for the most part.

Mary Mowder is correct that you have to make the act fit your style.

We have yet to find a magic prop of any type that will not work with a two person act, if it fits your style and you just put a little thought and creativity in it.

The opportunity for misdirection is fantastic with a two person act and it also allows time for one person to be setting up the next act, while the other is front and center, keeping the flow of the show moving along.

We are extremely diverse in our prop selection. We have everything from Scott Alexander and Steve Spill, to Chance Wolf, to Barry Mitchell and Tommy James props and more. They all work very well as a two person act and if you asked which were my favorites, the answer would vary depending on the show we are doing.

As Charlie Checkers noted though, it takes a lot of time and practice to achieve the proper timing and level of polish needed to pull it off well. It is great for us because it is what we do for a living. I am not sure if it would be worth the effort if we only did it a couple of times a year.


~Nanci
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Apr 13, 2013 12:27PM)
You don't both have to be involved in every effect.

It gives variety to the show if you both have a little alone time on stage as well as working together.

It can give you some fun alone time with the audience to "set something up" for when the other one comes out later.

This can be very useful in a practical sense. One of you can be packing or setting while off stage.

Two guys can share the carry in and tear down and driving. One can schmooze and pick up the check and one can pack and or schmooze with audience members who enjoyed the show (who are perspective clients).

-Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: Jonace (Apr 13, 2013 05:34PM)
Thanks for your toughts:)