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Topic: Seance
Message: Posted by: Matt_M (Dec 2, 2003 07:54PM)
Hey guys,

I was just wondering if any of you guys ever tried to perform a real seance? Not using trickery.

-Matt
Message: Posted by: MikeJRogers (Dec 3, 2003 12:06AM)
Sure have; freaky stuff. Still can't explain it. :eek:
Message: Posted by: Matt_M (Dec 3, 2003 08:43AM)
Were you successful?
Message: Posted by: MikeJRogers (Dec 3, 2003 02:04PM)
Yep,

One that was killed in a fire (arson), one that was murdered in some other way and a little girl. It's pretty amazing stuff. One of the spirits knew my friend's uncle! :eek:

Mike
Message: Posted by: Matt_M (Dec 3, 2003 02:22PM)
Do you know any good research sites for that stuff?
Message: Posted by: MikeJRogers (Dec 3, 2003 02:28PM)
There's quite a few. Just do a search for seance and it will come up with lots of "how to peform a seance" type sites. They're all fine really. Just have a search around. If you need some additional help just ask me.

I've only done it three or four times and I'm by no means into dark magic or any of that, I've just done it with friends for a bit of fun.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Mike
Message: Posted by: Matt_M (Dec 3, 2003 08:01PM)
Yeah, I'm just looking to scare some friends, and have fun. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Jerry (Dec 4, 2003 05:26PM)
Matt_M, if you just want to scare some friends, then why do a "real" seance? Why not a "fake" seance? What are the advantages to a real seance?
Message: Posted by: Matt_M (Dec 4, 2003 05:31PM)
Jerry,
I am very interested in the practice as well. I'm curious about performing seances. I would perform a fake seance, but I want to experience what it is like.

Matt
Message: Posted by: Jerry (Dec 4, 2003 06:05PM)
As mention, you will find a great deal of information on performing real seances on the net, plus the history. Try searching with the key phrase of Karnak (I might be wrong on the spelling). Although he is dead, his methods are still popular. Also use the key phrase of spirtualism, Ghost, DD Homes, Margery, the Fox sister (they started it all) and the Haunted Museum. Very little to nothing is available on staged seances (I know, I have looked and still do). Good luck and update us on your progress.
Jerry.
Message: Posted by: Gregg Tobo (Dec 4, 2003 08:00PM)
Matt,

Another good source is Brother Shadow's (aka Carl Herron) manuscript, "Have Seance Will Travel." It's a complete seance based only on suggestion and psychology. Unfortunately I don't know a current source for this manuscript.

HSWT was based on a performance described in the Jinx, called "The Fairy Goblet" (Issue 133) by L. Vosburgh Lyons and Lew Smith.

And also on some ideas from Mind Games: The Guide to Inner Space, by Robert Masters and Jean Houston. It's a guidebook to mind expansion without the use of drugs (yes, it was written in the early 70's...), and is still available from Amazon.com.

Gregg Tobo
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Dec 5, 2003 08:42AM)
In the past I did real seances and added to them a little trickery, so to speak. So I was sure that there was always something strong happening even in cases in which the ghosts(?) had refused to comply with the requests of my sitters.
Message: Posted by: Wil Castor (Dec 7, 2003 01:51PM)
Hmmm.... Disturbing the dead to relieve boredome and get a few kicks...is this such a good idea?
Why don't you stick with a little psychology and trickery for fun, and let those who have passed enjoy eternity instead of commanding them to do foolish and tiresome things to entertain you?
Just a thought.
Message: Posted by: Kim (Dec 7, 2003 10:31PM)
I have tried to locate Brother Shadow to no avail. Can anyone help?
Message: Posted by: Bill Fienning (Dec 7, 2003 11:01PM)
Try contacting Brother Shadow at:

Broshad@aol.com

He is sometimes traveling, so it may take a while for him to respond.
Message: Posted by: DanielGreenWolf (Dec 7, 2003 11:26PM)
[quote]
On 2003-12-07 14:51, Wil Profitt wrote:
Hmmm.... Disturbing the dead to relieve boredome and get a few kicks...is this such a good idea?
Why don't you stick with a little psychology and trickery for fun, and let those who have passed enjoy eternity instead of commanding them to do foolish and tiresome things to entertain you?
[/quote]

Actually, in the Wiccan tradition, we have Samhain and during one of our rituals known as a dumb supper (not all practice this; my family and I do), we are ultimately hoping to contact those who have passed without trickery, etc. and usually it is a very personal event, despite being in a group. The main point is us asking and them coming as they wish, not by our command.
Even in a room of 50 people who may experience contact, you may not experience anything outside of a cold chill because of your lack of energy investment. I think all should attend at least one dumb supper in their life if they have someone who has passed on, just to experience it for themselves.
But that's my opinion from a life-long witch.

--Daniel GreenWolf
Message: Posted by: Lee Darrow (Dec 8, 2003 08:48AM)
There was a compendium of Seance Magazine published a couple of years ago that is a goldmine of material on the staged seance.

It covered everything from full, dark room seances, to semi-dark rooms to full light work. Contributors included some of the tops in the field including E. Raymond Carlysle (former medium at the Magic Castle), Richard Webster, Brother Shadow and even a medium from Cassadega, FL who decided to "come out of the spirit cabinet" and tip the goods on how they do it down there!

Superb material.

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
Message: Posted by: Jerry (Dec 8, 2003 04:32PM)
The book "Seance" was a limited run of a 1,000 copies. It would be rare to find it on a bookshelf of a magic store. Kaufman stated he would not reprint it. So if you want it and find it, buy it. It is a very good book if you enjoy this type of performance.
Jerry
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Dec 18, 2003 11:49AM)
[quote]
On 2003-12-07 14:51, Wil Profitt wrote:
Hmmm.... Disturbing the dead to relieve boredome and get a few kicks...is this such a good idea?
Why don't you stick with a little psychology and trickery for fun, and let those who have passed enjoy eternity instead of commanding them to do foolish and tiresome things to entertain you?
Just a thought.
[/quote]

Don't ask foolish things then.
Message: Posted by: shrek (Dec 23, 2003 12:52PM)
I have an uncle who visits sometimes. He makes magic miracles with spirits from elsewhere. I am happy to be learning from you about this.
Message: Posted by: Wil Castor (Dec 23, 2003 02:40PM)
Daniel,
I am well aware of the wiccan traditions. I tutored with and was initiated by a 3rd degree priestess in a family line of 3rd degrees spanning 4 generations; I have prcaticed the craft for well over fifteen years. I know of many rituals and similar events for conjuring the dead. I have attended, participated in and led many of them. All I am saying is if someone is looking for a creepy way to get their jollies with their friends then donít disturb the resting; it's disrespectful. They did not move to the ether simply to be bothered for our entertainment and it's insulting not only to their memory but also to their current existance. If there is a worthwhile reason for calling to them or if you have a good question or favor and perhaps can offer them a boon of your own in exchange, then by all means do so. Otherwise leave them alone; it's like prank calling people, it's childish and selfish if it is just for amusment. I apologize if my opinions hurt feelings but I feel very strongly about respecting the dead. Listen or not, it's everyone's personal decision.
Message: Posted by: mysticuk (Dec 30, 2003 10:37AM)
Look up Hocus Pocus in the USA. They have, from time to time, items aimed solely at the Seance worker.
Cheers
Roni
Message: Posted by: ELS (Jan 8, 2004 02:16AM)
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On 2003-12-04 18:31, Matt_M wrote:
Jerry,
I am very interested in the practice as well. I'm curious about performing seances. I would perform a fake seance, but I want to experience what it is like.

Matt
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Hello Matt,

Don't tamper with it for kicks or a new experiance. Check out the photo collection on the paranormal I have at my web site 'The Unexplained World" - http://theunexplainedworld.com

One of these images even appeared on the site: about.com - for the paranormal, it's a screaming face seen in the ground next to a head stone at Bachelors Grove Cemetery.

As some have said, don't tamper unless you want to bring something back with you that you may not want.

Ed :wavey:
Message: Posted by: Jerry (Jan 8, 2004 06:07PM)
Ain't afraid of no ghost- who you gonna call...
Message: Posted by: kaos (Jan 8, 2004 06:53PM)
Apparently acording to a friend of mine that years ago he used a ougi board on top of a gravestone to contact spirits.
amazingly it seemed to work I think there were about six of them and after a few minuites the air around the grave became so cold that the exposed skin on there ankles started to burn. They were terrified (bear in mind this was about 3.00 o'clock in the morning) and ran away.
they jumped over a wall that was about two feet high not realising that there was a 12 foot drop on the other side. all but two of them broke there legs!! :wow:

does this sound like it could be real?
Message: Posted by: ELS (Jan 9, 2004 02:15PM)
[quote]
On 2004-01-08 19:53, kaos wrote:
Apparently acording to a friend of mine that years ago he used a ougi board on top of a gravestone to contact spirits.
amazingly it seemed to work I think there were about six of them and after a few minuites the air around the grave became so cold that the exposed skin on there ankles started to burn. They were terrified (bear in mind this was about 3.00 o'clock in the morning) and ran away.
they jumped over a wall that was about two feet high not realising that there was a 12 foot drop on the other side. all but two of them broke there legs!! :wow:

does this sound like it could be real?
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My next adventure will be to take a Ouija board to a cemetery and bring an individual or two with and also film and photograph it for my site & cable show, The Unexplained World - http://theunexplainedworld.com

Also another idea based on the John Edwards way of doing things, but I will leave that to my own way of thinking.

If you see the paranormal section of my web site, you'll see how I have tied in 'Psychic Abilities or Feelings' with the photos, and the photos are the real deal, no manipulating any thing.

Take care
Ed :wavey: