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Topic: Osterlind's the final answer
Message: Posted by: Scott Soloff (Jul 11, 2013 01:10PM)
Hey,

First, I wish to say hello. Am brand new to this forum and look forward to participating. So far, from what I can see, this is an interesting and shall we say colorful cast of characters.

As for my question, I'm looking for opinions on Richard Osterlind's The Final Answer. Any input would be greatly appreaciated.

Thanks.

Scott Soloff
Message: Posted by: Mark Timon (Jul 12, 2013 04:32AM)
Hi . its a clever Q&A , you can come out with the materials yourself but if you want to have it ready to go , you can purchase it. Better you wacht it first perfomed in his Dvd: Vol 7 of Mind Mysteries Too.

or here you have some reviews:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=140197&forum=15

Regards

Mark
Message: Posted by: Scott Soloff (Jul 12, 2013 05:10PM)
Thanks Mark...
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Jul 12, 2013 06:17PM)
I've always liked this and have blown audiences away with it. Very comfortable for me to use.
Message: Posted by: Art Vanderlay (Jul 13, 2013 01:20AM)
It's ok...

I prefer to use George Andersons & Jerome Finleys Methods mixed in with some sealed letter reading methods by Burling Hull & Bob Cassidy.

Cheers,
Art.
Message: Posted by: Mike Ince (Jul 13, 2013 01:51AM)
The best value I've found for Q&A is in Bob Cassidy's teleseminars he recorded with Michael Weber. In those conversations you'll learn about the pros and cons to methods like the Final Answer, blindfolded Q&A and several other classic approaches.

About two years ago I paid hundreds for poorly-produced DVDs of a great Q&A workshop Bob gave. Worst production value of any DVDs I've ever bought (nobody manned the camera most of the time and the discs arrived hand-labeled with a Sharpie), yet they contained the best primer on Q&A. They are the only homemade-looking products I've ever bought that have anything to do with Bob, yet the DVDs got me up and running and were well worth what I paid - the information is worth a lot to me. After watching I started with a traditional **e-a**** Q&A with several of Bob's touches and it wowed them the way it was supposed to. I love those DVDs. The teleseminars share almost everything the DVDs teach at a fraction of the price, and they're professionally produced. You'll want to listen to them. You might then move on to pick up the DVDs for extras.

There are benefits and liabilities to every method. If nobody walks in on the middle of the performance, if you have everyone watching from the beginning, then the Final Answer is pretty strong. It's inexpensive considering the effect on people. You can buy the DVD Mark mentioned above and do it yourself (the least expensive way to go) or for convenience buy the whole package from Richard's site. I like the idea of customizing the tickets or using it along with other methods so I'd prefer to do it myself but in the beginning you'd probably be happy with it the way that it comes. It might be the easiest way to get off the ground with Q&A.
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Jul 13, 2013 02:13AM)
[quote]
On 2013-07-11 14:10, Scott Soloff wrote:
Hey,

First, I wish to say hello. Am brand new to this forum and look forward to participating. So far, from what I can see, this is an interesting and shall we say colorful cast of characters.

[/quote]

Hi! Welcome aboard!

You've read posts and joined anyway? I kind of get it. I've seen surfers read "SHARK WARNING: Beach CLOSED" and they still went into the water.
Message: Posted by: Scott Soloff (Jul 13, 2013 03:55AM)
[quote]
On 2013-07-13 02:51, Mike Ince wrote:
The best value I've found for Q&A is in Bob Cassidy's teleseminars he recorded with Michael Weber. In those conversations you'll learn about the pros and cons to methods like the Final Answer, blindfolded Q&A and several other classic approaches.

About two years ago I paid hundreds for poorly-produced DVDs of a great Q&A workshop Bob gave. Worst production value of any DVDs I've ever bought (nobody manned the camera most of the time and the discs arrived hand-labeled with a Sharpie), yet they contained the best primer on Q&A. They are the only homemade-looking products I've ever bought that have anything to do with Bob, yet the DVDs got me up and running and were well worth what I paid - the information is worth a lot to me. After watching I started with a traditional **e-a**** Q&A with several of Bob's touches and it wowed them the way it was supposed to. I love those DVDs. The teleseminars share almost everything the DVDs teach at a fraction of the price, and they're professionally produced. You'll want to listen to them. You might then move on to pick up the DVDs for extras.

There are benefits and liabilities to every method. If nobody walks in on the middle of the performance, if you have everyone watching from the beginning, then the Final Answer is pretty strong. It's inexpensive considering the effect on people. You can buy the DVD Mark mentioned above and do it yourself (the least expensive way to go) or for convenience buy the whole package from Richard's site. I like the idea of customizing the tickets or using it along with other methods so I'd prefer to do it myself but in the beginning you'd probably be happy with it the way that it comes. It might be the easiest way to get off the ground with Q&A.
[/quote]

Mike,

Thanks for your insight.

I did a mindreading act 40 years ago and have decided it was time to try it once again. At the time, I used a clip board. I had no objections to pre-show work and was thrilled with the results. I tend to believe that this is still the best way to go.

However, at least for the time being, I wanted something that was pretty well self contained and simple to execute in order to concentrate on my performance. I came across Osterlind's product and thought that it fit the bill.

Reading the posts here, I became impressed with Cassidy's material and have decided to study it in detail. In the mean time, I wanted to hit the road running.

Once again, thanks for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated.

Scott
Message: Posted by: Scott Soloff (Jul 13, 2013 04:00AM)
[quote]
On 2013-07-13 03:13, Zombie Magic wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-07-11 14:10, Scott Soloff wrote:
Hey,

First, I wish to say hello. Am brand new to this forum and look forward to participating. So far, from what I can see, this is an interesting and shall we say colorful cast of characters.

[/quote]

Hi! Welcome aboard!

You've read posts and joined anyway? I kind of get it. I've seen surfers read "SHARK WARNING: Beach CLOSED" and they still went into the water.
[/quote]

Zombie Magic,

Thanks. Yes, I read the posts and observed the recurring bickering. And still, I picked up a great deal of useful info. With that in mind, I decided to take the plunge.

Best wishes,

Scott
Message: Posted by: rickmagic1 (Aug 11, 2013 02:53PM)
I've used it as my big finish piece for years...absolutely love it.
Message: Posted by: gabelson (Aug 11, 2013 03:03PM)
[quote]
On 2013-07-13 04:55, Scott Soloff wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-07-13 02:51, Mike Ince wrote:
The best value I've found for Q&A is in Bob Cassidy's teleseminars he recorded with Michael Weber. In those conversations you'll learn about the pros and cons to methods like the Final Answer, blindfolded Q&A and several other classic approaches.

About two years ago I paid hundreds for poorly-produced DVDs of a great Q&A workshop Bob gave. Worst production value of any DVDs I've ever bought (nobody manned the camera most of the time and the discs arrived hand-labeled with a Sharpie), yet they contained the best primer on Q&A. They are the only homemade-looking products I've ever bought that have anything to do with Bob, yet the DVDs got me up and running and were well worth what I paid - the information is worth a lot to me. After watching I started with a traditional **e-a**** Q&A with several of Bob's touches and it wowed them the way it was supposed to. I love those DVDs. The teleseminars share almost everything the DVDs teach at a fraction of the price, and they're professionally produced. You'll want to listen to them. You might then move on to pick up the DVDs for extras.

There are benefits and liabilities to every method. If nobody walks in on the middle of the performance, if you have everyone watching from the beginning, then the Final Answer is pretty strong. It's inexpensive considering the effect on people. You can buy the DVD Mark mentioned above and do it yourself (the least expensive way to go) or for convenience buy the whole package from Richard's site. I like the idea of customizing the tickets or using it along with other methods so I'd prefer to do it myself but in the beginning you'd probably be happy with it the way that it comes. It might be the easiest way to get off the ground with Q&A.
[/quote]

Mike,

Thanks for your insight.

I did a mindreading act 40 years ago and have decided it was time to try it once again. At the time, I used a clip board. I had no objections to pre-show work and was thrilled with the results. I tend to believe that this is still the best way to go.

However, at least for the time being, I wanted something that was pretty well self contained and simple to execute in order to concentrate on my performance. I came across Osterlind's product and thought that it fit the bill.

Reading the posts here, I became impressed with Cassidy's material and have decided to study it in detail. In the mean time, I wanted to hit the road running.

Once again, thanks for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated.

Scott
[/quote]

"I wanted something that was self contained and simple to execute.... hit the road running"- then the Final Answer is the perfect choice with which to break into Q&A. Great way to go.
Message: Posted by: Scott Soloff (Aug 11, 2013 05:06PM)
Thanks everyone... Appreciate the feedback.

Best wishes,

Scott
Message: Posted by: twistedace (Aug 11, 2013 09:07PM)
If it's the same routine as his Q+A on volume 7 DVD it's brilliant. I was blown away when I watched it. I still haven't performed it, but it seemsdead easy and sure fire. I have a question to those performing it: where do you get your perforated slips?
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Aug 11, 2013 09:24PM)
From Richard or you can have your own made up.
Message: Posted by: Scott Soloff (Aug 11, 2013 11:25PM)
Mindpro,

You can get them from Richard here:

http://osterlindmysteries.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=5

Scott
Message: Posted by: twistedace (Aug 12, 2013 08:26AM)
Thanks everyone! I'm going to try to make these up on business card stock first.
Message: Posted by: Josho (Aug 13, 2013 01:12PM)
I'm in the process of working on a Final Answer-based routine myself.

I'm making up my own cards. One of the little touches I'm adding is, in tiny lettering at the bottom of each card, "Property of Duke University." Just to make them feel official.

The pencil bags I'm using are these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00275ED2W/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And BTW, I'm starting off *with the pencils inside the bag.* That made more sense to me than presenting an empty bag and saying, "Here's a pencil bag" when you've just handed out pencils without using the bag.

Josh
Message: Posted by: Josho (Aug 13, 2013 01:14PM)
Oh, BTW -- I email Richard about making up my own cards just a week or so ago, and he was very gracious in replying (as he has always been).

He informed me that one thing to be sure of is that the printer who makes up the cards does the perforating correctly. Apparently not every printer gets the perfs deep enough.
Message: Posted by: mindhunter (Aug 16, 2013 05:08PM)
An awesome routine that hits hard!

Bryn
Message: Posted by: Mike Ince (Aug 17, 2013 12:07AM)
I've been doing Q&A the ol' White Mahatma way. I think next time I may use a variant of the Final Answer to make it easy on myself so I can focus on the hard part while casting aside methodological distractions. Now that I know I can do it with nothing more than a stack of index cards and pencils it's time to move to the Final Answer.

The only easier method (for written questions) I've read that worked for its' time belonged to Lucian of Samosota. You can read about it here, especially beginning around paragraph 19. http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/lucian/lucian_alexander.htm Lucian was a false prophet who pretended to answer sealed questions on behalf of gods, circa 180 A.D. There is truly nothing new under the sun. Guys who claim supernatural power or insight gather hungry, believing audiences who should know better. From Tertullian's opinion of Alexander's followers, it doesn't sound like he needed much of a logical disconnect.