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Topic: Designing effects
Message: Posted by: Chaz93 (Jul 26, 2013 08:36PM)
Hey Peter, hope you're well.

I was wondering what your approach to designing effects are? Knowing that you use a bit of DR, I'm curious if you set out with the intention of making something a DR piece, or if that's something that comes up as a side result?
Message: Posted by: Peter_turner (Jul 27, 2013 04:06AM)
Hey man,

I have no idea how I'm going to achieve an effect when I first start. I focus on what it what I want to achieve, what it will look like and then I pretend I have the method.

I start to write the scripts and word play, presentation get it till its really smooth and then I start to work on the method.

Here is the logic in my mind.

If I said to you, you were going to slave for me for a week. Do everything I told you to do and then some derogatory things for 10 pound you would scoff and walk away.

Whereas if you were offered ten million for the same roll, the chances are you would be more likely (a lot more likely).

Therefore with that in mind, if I have an outcome, scripts, word play in more likely to bring the effect to fruition.

I usually pick a spot to take myself away from everything and then just imagine watching it on a screen playing out in front of me and enjoy it.

Then after the method is created I focus on all the bad outcomes and ways a routine could go wrong then I script for them and have an alternative presentation for a fail that looks tight and is scripted and then focus on the method for the outs.

Then I constantly stumble on things making the routines tighter and more entertaining.

Hope that makes sense :)

Pete x
Message: Posted by: Chaz93 (Jul 27, 2013 03:13PM)
I dig it. Thanks
Message: Posted by: Ba Ba Booey (Jul 28, 2013 01:10AM)
Interesting topic. About how many of your ideas come to fruition, would you say?
Message: Posted by: Bill Brunelle (Jul 29, 2013 05:11AM)
This is a brilliant description of the creative process and how it has resulted in the creations in music, art, science, and even business. The first question is always what outcome do you want, and you focus on that so brilliantly. Then you turn to looking at where you presently are in relation to that outcome. That sets the mind up for being much more capable of resolving the disparity between where you are and where you want to be---as opposed to jumping straight into the process and methods. What you've described sets the mind up for being much more innovative.

I just woke up and read your post, and my mind is a little foggy, so I hope my thought is not too abstractly expressed. Your metaphor contrasting ten pounds to ten million pounds expresses it much more elegantly.



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On 2013-07-27 05:06, Peter_turner wrote:
Hey man,

I have no idea how I'm going to achieve an effect when I first start. I focus on what it what I want to achieve, what it will look like and then I pretend I have the method.

I start to write the scripts and word play, presentation get it till its really smooth and then I start to work on the method.

Here is the logic in my mind.

If I said to you, you were going to slave for me for a week. Do everything I told you to do and then some derogatory things for 10 pound you would scoff and walk away.

Whereas if you were offered ten million for the same roll, the chances are you would be more likely (a lot more likely).

Therefore with that in mind, if I have an outcome, scripts, word play in more likely to bring the effect to fruition.

I usually pick a spot to take myself away from everything and then just imagine watching it on a screen playing out in front of me and enjoy it.

Then after the method is created I focus on all the bad outcomes and ways a routine could go wrong then I script for them and have an alternative presentation for a fail that looks tight and is scripted and then focus on the method for the outs.

Then I constantly stumble on things making the routines tighter and more entertaining.

Hope that makes sense :)

Pete x
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Message: Posted by: Peter_turner (Jul 29, 2013 06:26PM)
Thanks Bill :D

x
Message: Posted by: Trickstar (Jul 30, 2013 05:19PM)
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On 2013-07-27 05:06, Peter_turner wrote:
Hey man,

I have no idea how I'm going to achieve an effect when I first start. I focus on what it what I want to achieve, what it will look like and then I pretend I have the method.

I start to write the scripts and word play, presentation get it till its really smooth and then I start to work on the method.

...

Therefore with that in mind, if I have an outcome, scripts, word play in more likely to bring the effect to fruition.

I usually pick a spot to take myself away from everything and then just imagine watching it on a screen playing out in front of me and enjoy it.

Then after the method is created I focus on all the bad outcomes and ways a routine could go wrong then I script for them and have an alternative presentation for a fail that looks tight and is scripted and then focus on the method for the outs.

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This is absolute gold!
Message: Posted by: Peter_turner (Jul 30, 2013 11:44PM)
Thanks :) x