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Topic: New authorized builder for Joe Lefler Tables
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Aug 28, 2013 10:16AM)
One of the interesting things I saw in the dealers room at the 2013 KIDabra Conference, was ShowTime Magic Products.

I've known Christopher Weed for many years, and his newest company is ShowTime Magic Products. They got permission from Joe Lefler's widow, to take over his line of tables. And they made some improvements. They now come in 4 colours -- grey, black, red and blue. (My old table would be considered grey.) Still have the velcro compatable fabric.

As well as the top fixed shelf, and the movable shelf, they have 3rd additional shelf towards the bottom, that is like a trap door. That 3rd shelf is new, and allows for you to put some items into the very bottom. The tables are white inside, which is something that Joe was doing over the last few years. And Christopher sells lights that attach to the inside of the table, so you can see in the table better.

He also sells some velcro pockets that you can attach to various places inside the table. And you can upgrade to larger wheels.

The locks are nice, and slightly different from what they used to use... no need for a padlock, because it's a locking hasp for both.

He also sells a cover that has 2 pockets on the outside... one on top for business cards, and a larger one on the side for brochures, etc.

They had the large and small Lefler Tables there, as well as a prototype of the Hank Moorhouse Cube Table that Lefler also used to build.

Here is the new website: http://www.showtimemagic.com

Here is the Facebook page, which has many photos: https://www.facebook.com/ShowtimeMagicProducts

- Donald

P.S. My current Lefler table is about 20 years old, so I'll likely be getting a new one (perhaps in red) sometime in the next year. I saw the new ones in person, and they are well built!
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 19, 2013 01:31PM)
Christopher Weed is now making side tables, with a top that matches the fabric choices on the new colours of Lefler Tables. As I mentioned above, there are now 4 colour choices instead of 1.

And the table top for the side table, and the compact version of their stand, fits inside the main table.

[url=https://squareup.com/market/showtime-magic-products/new-in-shelf-tabletop]--> 2-in-1 Shelf/Tabletop[/url]

[url=https://squareup.com/market/showtime-magic-products/ultimate-table-base-compact-size-new]--> Ultimate Table Base-Compact[/url]

[url=https://squareup.com/market/showtime-magic-products/ultimate-table-base]--> Ultimate Table Base-Large[/url]

You buy the top and the base seperately, for the side tables.

- Donald
Message: Posted by: Cody S. Fisher (Nov 2, 2013 04:59PM)
I just purchased a several of these tables, table bases, and covers. All the tables I received were PERFECT...and build to last. The large heavy duty casters, locking latches, protective covers, and LED lights are all GREAT feature to an already great table. I also received very nice customer service from this company. If you are looking for these types of tables, you should take a look at this company...

Cody S. Fisher
Message: Posted by: JoshLondonMagic (Nov 4, 2013 10:18AM)
Anyone have the cube table? My footlocker is getting too heavy.

Josh
Message: Posted by: JoshLondonMagic (Dec 6, 2013 06:26PM)
Well just got my cube table today. Awesome work and looks great!!!
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jan 31, 2014 12:05PM)
Chris Weed is at KAX (Convention) right now, and has introduced several new products. Here are some of them:


Ingonito Rabbit Carrier:

https://squareup.com/market/showtime-magic-products/incognito-rabbit-carrier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A3bzQTRuqE


Piggyback Table:

https://squareup.com/market/showtime-magic-products/piggyback-table

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ82Vb2-byE


Pro Suitcase Table Ipad Ready:

https://squareup.com/market/showtime-magic-products/pro-suitcase-table-ipad-ready


There's also a new "FlipTop Table with an integrated HappieAmp sound system option", which will be on the website in a few days.


Thought I'd share the news. I'm not at KAX myself, but these are items he's been sharing on Facebook over the past week or two.


- Donald
Message: Posted by: arthur stead (Jan 31, 2014 12:30PM)
Thanks for the info, Donald. My old Lefler table has definitely seen better days ... plus my cats have destroyed the cloth covering!
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jan 31, 2014 01:00PM)
Here's a link to the Travel Cover that I was talking about (in my first post on this thread). That might protect the table covering from the cats:

https://squareup.com/market/showtime-magic-products/travel-cover-vinyi

- Donald
Message: Posted by: ChristopherWeed (Feb 2, 2014 10:45PM)
Thanks for all the kind comments guys! And thanks to my longtime friend Donald for sharing with everyone here. I wish I had the energy to be more active here but between starting Showtime Magic Products and a full schedule of shows, I can't be everywhere. We've been very fortunate to have such a successful start to this new business and customers have really been supportive. It's an honor to continue Joe Lefler's legacy. Donald has done a great job of providing an overview of what we are doing with new products and accessories. I encourage anyone who wants to follow us to Like us on Facebook for regular updates http://www.fb.com/showtimemagicproducts and check our website http://www.showtimemagic.com for the full range of products. And, if you've got questions email me anytime christopher@showtimemagic.com. Thank you!
Message: Posted by: QuailCreek (Feb 18, 2014 08:47PM)
Man, I wish I'd known about this before I bought two tables from Viking. These look great!
Message: Posted by: Gerald (Jul 30, 2014 10:12AM)
I have three of the Ultimate Table Bases. One, I got from Joe, others from Christopher. All are perfect! Joe had great products and customer service. Christopher has adopted those same business practices. Couldn't be happier! If you are looking for heavy duty, sturdy, easy to truck around table base, the Ultimate Table Base is it!

Gerald
Message: Posted by: Jeffini (Aug 22, 2014 09:10PM)
Just purchased a large Lefler table along with a piggy back table. I ordered them from Christopher and picked them up at the KIDabra conference. He is very easy to wrok with and the tables are excellent. Thanks for the great service.
Message: Posted by: jimhlou (Oct 21, 2014 03:32PM)
Got my eye on a cube table - I think this will be my Christmas present.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 21, 2014 04:02PM)
Just a reminder to keep checking back on the website or Facebook page, because Christopher keeps adding new items to the Showtime Magic Products line. Like the Pedestal Base for the Cube Table (available in both sizes, because the Cube Table also comes in two sizes), or the Celebration Series themed tables.

Here is the website: http://www.showtimemagic.com

Here is the Facebook page, which has many photos: https://www.facebook.com/ShowtimeMagicProducts

- Donald

P.S. There's a Halloween themed cube table in the Celebration series, and it sounds like there will be a Christmas themed table coming at some point soon.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Nov 15, 2014 11:28AM)
Yesterday, I got my new magic show tables from Showtime Magic Products. I purchased a pro suitcase table and two side tables (the fabric colour I chose was deep red). Catherine (my wife) thinks all of the tables look really nice and are very solid (much better than my old tables). And I agree. I think that the touches like the white interior, the light for the interior, the extra shelf at the bottom, the fold down panel at the bottom, etc. are wonderful! The side tables are great, too! They look attractive, but are compact enough that I can carry them inside the pro suitcase table along with my magic show props. I can't wait to start using all of these tables in my show.

Also in some of the photos is my 25 bloom poinsettia style botania, built by Richard Hughes. I bought that from Richard in September 2013, and use it frequently in my show.

I've posted some photos on Facebook, in this album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10154895184185393.1073741884.635075392&type=1&l=3034925166

- Donald
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jan 11, 2015 07:56PM)
[quote]On Jan 31, 2014, Donald Dunphy wrote:



Ingonito Rabbit Carrier:

https://squareup.com/market/showtime-magic-products/incognito-rabbit-carrier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A3bzQTRuqE

[/quote]
I received mine last week. It is kinda heavy.
Message: Posted by: Tim Friday (Jun 27, 2015 09:08AM)
I have a question about this table. When it is opened up to the table position, how sturdy is it?

It looks like there are only two little side clips that hold the table up when it is opened. Is it sturdy enough to set heavy props on, and perform tricks involving heavy moving props like cups and balls with heavy copper cups?

How sturdy is this once it is opened up???...
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jun 27, 2015 09:05PM)
The pro suitcase tables are very sturdy. I set quite a bit of weight on the top, at times.

- Donald
Message: Posted by: John Martin (Jun 27, 2015 09:06PM)
If you're talking about the suitcase table, it's sturdy. You could sit on it.

John
Message: Posted by: Tim Friday (Jun 27, 2015 09:16PM)
[quote]On Jun 27, 2015, John Martin wrote:
If you're talking about the suitcase table, it's sturdy. You could sit on it.

John [/quote]
No, I mean when it is opened to the table top position. In the video it looks like just a bitty latch on each side holding it open. You mean you can sit on it when it's closed right?
Message: Posted by: John Martin (Jun 28, 2015 01:50PM)
Yes, I mean when it's open. It's very sturdy. It's a very solid case open and closed.

John
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Jun 28, 2015 08:56PM)
I found a bunch of plastic bins, with lids, that fit 3 across in the small area of the lefler table and made perfect drawers for smaller props/tricks.

I don't use that table anymore but I liked it while I had it.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jun 28, 2015 09:36PM)
I had a Lefler table that I bought in 1994, and I bought the replacement Pro Suitcase Table in 2014.

One thing that happened with the older table over time, is that when it was folded up into the open position, the sides would flare out now and then (and it would collapse) when a lot of pressure was put on the top in the open position. So, it could collapse if something too heavy was set on top in the wrong spot, or if someone leaned on it hard. This was something that happened over time, because the joint in the wood came a little loose, allowing the "wings" to flare out at times.

With the new table, the sides do not flare out at all when a lot of pressure is put on the top in the open position. It is very solid. I think it is made out of a slightly thicker birch plywood than the original, too.

- Donald
Message: Posted by: John Martin (Jun 29, 2015 11:41AM)
If this is a problem with your table (mine does not suffer from this....yet)you can put a cotter pin in one of the bracket holes (or drill one). This will keep the table side tight to bottom and it won't "slip" off as Donald suggested. The flanges that holds the table open are actually bent hinge that slides over the bottom sides of the table to hold the upper section in place. It is possible that the top half could "ride" over the bent hinge. The cotter pin with stop this from happening. Then you can sit on it!!! ;)

John
Message: Posted by: Tim Friday (Jun 29, 2015 08:36PM)
I noticed the height of these tables when opened is rather high. The large table with 4" casters is 40" tall when opened. The large table with a retractable handle has 3" casters and is 38" tall.

This is much taller than a table you would sit down at. I have been using an Instand table and I measured the height I put it at and it is 31" tall.

If you have a table that goes up to 38" or 40" tall and kids are sitting in the living room just a few feet in front of the table, they won't even be able to see the top would they? What is your experience with the height of this table?
And do the 3" casters lock?

One final concern, I noticed when the table is open the latches stick out the backside of the table. It looks like you could snag your pants or shirt on these latches. Also it is not aesthetically pleasing to have the latches there on top of the table when it is opened. What is your opinion/experience with this?
Message: Posted by: John Martin (Jun 30, 2015 01:28PM)
I learned how to set my working table from an old pro years ago. I was told to stand straight and place my palm flat on the working surface. This accomplishes two things. First the table is set to the proper height for those sitting on the floor to see what going on on the table. Secondly it is set to the proper height so you don't have to bend over when working.

Obviously at 38-40 inches the roll on table is a little too high. I use the roll on table to set bigger props on or smaller ones close to the front so all can see. I also have a small table top on a eureka base that I work off off set at my proper height which is about 35-36 inches.

As for the latches. I don't think anyone would notice them much. They are smooth cornered and in the 15 years I've had my table, I have never snagged pants or shirt on them. One thing they are good for is to hang props from. I hang the bag that holds my linking rings by the string tie on one of the latches.

John
Message: Posted by: Tim Friday (Jul 1, 2015 10:37AM)
[quote]On Jun 30, 2015, John Martin wrote:
I learned how to set my working table from an old pro years ago. I was told to stand straight and place my palm flat on the working surface. This accomplishes two things. First the table is set to the proper height for those sitting on the floor to see what going on on the table. Secondly it is set to the proper height so you don't have to bend over when working.

Obviously at 38-40 inches the roll on table is a little too high. I use the roll on table to set bigger props on or smaller ones close to the front so all can see. I also have a small table top on a eureka base that I work off off set at my proper height which is about 35-36 inches.

As for the latches. I don't think anyone would notice them much. They are smooth cornered and in the 15 years I've had my table, I have never snagged pants or shirt on them. One thing they are good for is to hang props from. I hang the bag that holds my linking rings by the string tie on one of the latches.

John [/quote]

Thanks John, that is very helpful.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Jul 1, 2015 11:10AM)
For me, it doesn't matter if children can see the tabletop, because I'm not doing close up where I need to work on a surface. I'm doing a stand up show where I hold the props.

However, if having a lower table is important to you, consider buying their 2-in-1 Shelf/Tabletop and Ultimate Table Base - Compact (sold separately, from Showtime Magic Products), and using that as a side table. That table can adjust to a lower height.

Both of those pieces (tabletop and base) are designed to fit inside the Pro Suitcase Table, along with your other props, so you can walk in with everything in one case. I bring along one side table to my birthday shows (for my botania), and two side tables to my larger (non-birthday) shows, in addition to my Pro Suitcase Table.

- Donald
Message: Posted by: John Martin (Jul 1, 2015 09:47PM)
Sorry for any confussion. It's not about seeing the TABLE TOP, but rather seeing what's ON the table top.

John
Message: Posted by: Chris Meece (Feb 25, 2016 09:53AM)
I have the same dilemma as you, I am worried about the height. I will be ordering a large table this weekend with the retractable handle from Chris this weekend. I am torn on whether to purchase the extra tall option. I like the idea of the extra storage but I fear what my cups and balls will look like from that height. I am going to prop up my keyboard stand setup this weekend and see how it performs at that level.

I am also having Chris construct a canvas cover with pockets for my Supreme Slate of Mind and a much wider tabletop to place on top.
Message: Posted by: David French (Feb 25, 2016 01:08PM)
Hi Chris -

I have used the small Lefler table for years. I do work from the table top often. If I have kids seated on the floor and cant see the table top, I merely ask the kids to stand up for that particular routine. Not a big deal..if folks are seated in chairs I have never had an issue with them seeing the table top.

Hope that helps.

David
Message: Posted by: Chris Meece (Feb 25, 2016 01:35PM)
Thanks, David. The large with extra tall feature is 42 inches tall. The small is 38 inches tall. Curious if those 4 inches would make a big difference.

I know I will have to get used to performing at such a greater height. My loads will be blocked by the table at this height.