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Topic: Three of club trick
Message: Posted by: bluemagic (Sep 4, 2013 10:29PM)
What do yo think Of doing three of club trick on the street? What pro and con?
Message: Posted by: bluemagic (Sep 4, 2013 10:30PM)
The three of club and half club trick sorry I'm a little tired
Message: Posted by: imgic (Sep 5, 2013 02:33PM)
Might be good to get a few folks in to start building a crowd. Don't think it plays big enough to be used beyond that.

While I love the trick (one of the first I learned so long ago) I'm not a fan of gaffed cards. So came up with something a bit different. After they "select" their card, and as they show it, I put down my prediction card. When I turn it over, it's a 3 of Clubs with a half dollar (Three and a Half...get it?) So get same comedic effect, but without gaff, and now you've got cards and coin and set up to go into another routine...
Message: Posted by: bluemagic (Sep 5, 2013 10:38PM)
I was thinking that I can do the three of club and half, and then go into a card stab. For a finsh.
Message: Posted by: bluemagic (Sep 6, 2013 11:55AM)
How would you draw a crowd With 3 of club and 1/2 trick.
Message: Posted by: Faulkner (Sep 8, 2013 05:20PM)
It is not the trick....it is the presentation....one trick is not better than another...just ones you prefer...
Message: Posted by: Josef K (Sep 9, 2013 12:43PM)
Yeeeeah, that's not really true is it, Faulkner... I find it really hard to find stuff that fits me, the environment, the travelling, the resetting, the re-stocking, the impact and a bunch of other stuff that makes it unsuitable.

Sorry, I just felt a bit provocative (and that was all I came up with? I must get a girlfriend to fight with again...)

But regarding three and a half... I say yes, because it's funny with stuff that don't look like they should. And I'm sure you could make a working routine involving that gag.
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Sep 9, 2013 02:15PM)
Josef, Faulkner is RIGHT!! Take the classic street effect, the cups & balls. Gazzo runs it 30 to 40 minutes and pulls in $300 off ONE SHOW. Others do the same, copying Gazzo word for word and make $5 hats. It's not the effect it's the performer. Not saying Gazzo is a better performer than any of us are but his Cups & Balls is a heck of a lot better than anyone else's. The effects I use work for me and I make between $25 and 50 for every 7 to 12 minute show I do.
Message: Posted by: RiffRaff (Sep 9, 2013 09:07PM)
Paddy's posts are more fantastical than Penthouse Letters.
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Sep 9, 2013 09:16PM)
Paddy you don't know what you are talking about Gazzo is a better performer than all of us!!!
Message: Posted by: Josef K (Sep 10, 2013 03:19AM)
Oh, it worked :)

I only meant that the advice Faulkner gave is one that is often given, but in my opinion not very useful. And I would, and did, argue that it's also not entierly true. Paddy, when you say "classic street effect", that's already a very narrow category. The original quistion was, as I understood it at least, if "Three and a half" was or could be at least in the somewhat broader category of a good "street effect". In order to determine this you have to look at stuff like your own personallity, if the props gonna be difficult to travel with (if you travel), durability (and the ease of getting a replacement if it breaks), intended size of crowd and many other things. And, yes, the tricks inherent impact.

Most of the trick ever invented is not really that suitable for the street. I'm not saying that there are tricks that are impossible to do on the street, but there is a reason you come across certain tricks more often than others (and it's not always because one is copying another). They have certain things in common. Gazzo, for instance, did choose the cups for a reason. I will not claim I know those reasons, but I would guess he considered both practical issues and how much impact he could wring from it. Just the fact that the cups & balls trick has survived as long as it has tells you it has more merit as a street trick than most other tricks.

On the other hand, just because you pick a trick with a lot of street value, it doesn't mean it's an instant hit. I do agree with that without question. You need a good trick AND you need to perform it well.

To conclude, in my opinion, a trick DO has its own merits. Some ARE better suited for the streets than others. It's not JUST the performer. And in this case, well aware I don't know the performer or his/her style, I feel it's a trick that's worth trying out on the street (it's only then you know for sure anyway...), mainly because of it's potential comedy effect.

OP: If you would like to elaborate on a routine with this, perhaps it would be easier to give advice.
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Sep 10, 2013 04:10AM)
I've taken Gazzo's masterclass when he had them and I still believe that a lot of us are just as good performers with the effects we do. For the cups & balls, however, Gazzo is THE BEST. Riffraff, my show is all simple effects but I perform them (not just do a trick) and engage the audience in the patter. Try that and you will increase your hat
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Sep 10, 2013 04:10AM)
I've taken Gazzo's masterclass when he had them and I still believe that a lot of us are just as good performers with the effects we do. For the cups & balls, however, Gazzo is THE BEST. Riffraff, my show is all simple effects but I perform them (not just do a trick) and engage the audience in the patter. Try that and you will increase your hat
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Sep 10, 2013 10:28AM)
To conclude, in my opinion, a trick DO has its own merits. Some ARE better suited for the streets than others. It's not JUST the performer. And in this case, well aware I don't know the performer or his/her style, I feel it's a trick that's worth trying out on the street (it's only then you know for sure anyway...), mainly because of it's potential comedy effect.

OP: If you would like to elaborate on a routine with this, perhaps it would be easier to give advice.

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Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Sep 10, 2013 10:37AM)
Bluemagic

Josef K opinion is good advice. QUOTE "To conclude, in my opinion, a trick DO has its own merits. Some ARE better suited for the streets than others. It's not JUST the performer. And in this case, well aware I don't know the performer or his/her style, I feel it's a trick that's worth trying out on the street (it's only then you know for sure anyway...), mainly because of it's potential comedy effect.

OP: If you would like to elaborate on a routine with this, perhaps it would be easier to give advice".

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I second the advice try the trick on the street and on your pitch see if it works. If you travel to another pitch it may have to be modified.


Please don't get discouraged as NO ONE makes a good hat number EVERY SHOW!
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Sep 11, 2013 03:40AM)
Eddie Tullock did this trick his whole life on trade shows. see his dvd and learn from him. I loved the fact that he had the card hanging all the time. this created tension. people wanted to see the card to satisfy thier curiosity.
for me it is to much a short joke for the street. Don Alan did a routine with 2 jumbo cards. this would be more suitable for the street. the second trick is the 3 and a half. you can find it in his book.
Message: Posted by: bluemagic (Jun 4, 2014 01:22PM)
Thank you all.
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Jun 4, 2014 05:44PM)
Excuse me...I'm kinda new here. What is a "trick DO"?

I knew Mike Kort, though, and I knew he "invented" MIKO--MIKO is named after him. For $.50 you got six three and a half of clubs and a douse.
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Jun 4, 2014 05:47PM)
Excuse me...I'm kinda new here. What is a "trick DO"?

I knew Mike Kort, though, and I knew he "invented" MIKO--MIKO is named after him. For $.50 you got six three and a half of clubs and a douse.
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Jun 4, 2014 05:48PM)
To the OP: I use 52 on 1 as a ruse to draw a crowd.