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Topic: Cards?
Message: Posted by: Luke Sherratt (Dec 12, 2003 10:10PM)
Hi, Can anyone tell me what you think the best manipulation cards are? I have tried Lance Burton's Cards and I don't like them much the same with Norm Nielsen's cards are McBride's any good?


Luke :smiles:
Message: Posted by: xxxRoyxxx (Dec 13, 2003 01:48AM)
I, personally, think it is a matter of preference. In my opinion, BEE's are the best, although I've never really applied myself to actual manipulation cards. I do know that most manipulation cards are bridge size and I was always used to regular poker size cards. Just my thoughts.
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Dec 13, 2003 08:21AM)
It is a matter of preference, but keep in mind that any manipulkation cards feel weird at first. You can not make a clear enough judgement on any one brand of cards until you have really used them for a good week or two. Really get used to them, test them out and use them in performance and practice. Then you can make an honest assessment as to what works best for your own needs.
Message: Posted by: Alex Linian (Dec 13, 2003 09:40AM)
Peter Marvey also has manipulation cards on the Market. The deck is 1/3 as thick as a regular deck.
Personally, I use a Bee deck also.
Message: Posted by: maylor (Dec 13, 2003 09:59AM)
It really is personal preference. I like the Burton cards. I can't stand the Nielsen cards although I know some people that love them.

I also like the Marvey cards, but they don't have a pip in every corner so they look rubbish when fanned in the left hand. a big downer!
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Dec 14, 2003 01:11PM)
Maylor brings up a good point. Some manip cards are great because they have pips in every corner. This allows the pips to be showing no matter how the cards are being fanned. Just something to keep in mind.

Message: Posted by: Marcus Taylor (Dec 20, 2003 12:01PM)
I myself prefer the Burton's and the Nielsen's to any other manipulation cards, and I absolutely detest Bees, although they may suit others better than they do me!
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 7, 2004 03:24AM)
The cards you mention are for card fan productions only. If you want card fanning you should use a fanning deck.

Next, the size of your hand will help tell what card you can use for best results. If you have large hands use Poker cards and do the break-in technique discribed in Ganson's book. McBride's cards are just ordinary cards produced with his logo. They are not any different then a deck you buy from a store.

Being you are from England you probably have access to better cards then we have in America, as US Playing Card Company has bought all the card companies.

I use to get decks with tricks from Ken Brooke. These cards were more flexable than anything in America. Once I received a deck with the Aviator back design made in England or Europe.

Another company in Europe is "Piatnik cards" from Austria. They made the fanning cards for "Magic Christian". If you find a great card in England, Let us all know.

Remember, any card you must break-in and treat to work well for you.

Bill :bikes:
Message: Posted by: zaubern (Jan 17, 2004 07:25AM)
I have tried many but alway find myself going back to Bee's. I think it is all up to the performer, but for me it is Bee's.
Message: Posted by: Ron Reid (Jan 17, 2004 08:16AM)
Hi Luke:

Lots of good suggestions here. However, you can't go wrong with Nielson cards. They're bridge-sized, are thinner than regular cards, and have pips on all four corners. I've used them for years, and really like them best. My guess is that more pros use these cards than any other.

A couple of hints: As others have already mentioned, you need to break them in a bit to get the "finish" off. You'll occasionally need to powder them with a good fanning powder. Most importantly though, is that you need to use a card press. This smashes down the deck when you're not using them. It will keep your cards in good shapes for years. You can buy the card press from Nielson magic or you can make your own.

So, I say get yourself some Nielson cards, fanning powder, a card press, and a paper grocery bag to shake up the cards when you powder them, and you're in business.

Hope this helps you, Luke.

Message: Posted by: Darkwing (Jan 17, 2004 11:39AM)
I use the Norm Nielson cards for single productions and Bees for split fan productions. I find because I am pretty aggressive with the handling with split fans the Bees hold up better. In practice I use Bees for all my card manipulation techniques, sort of the idea of using ankle weights or a weighted donut for a baseball bat. I find the Bees help to keep my hands stronger.