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Topic: ~Strangest Test I Ever Took~
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 18, 2013 04:26PM)
When you first sign on with a company there are tests administered.
One either gets the position or not based upon such results.

Once employed many folks get to a point of complacency and
either cease to further their education or stop growing altogether.

Many companies do not administer testing after you have been
granted permission to board the ship. Such is not the case
in some instances when there is sensitive material to deal with.

I consider myself above average in taking tests. More often than
not, I wrap up my business prior to most folks whom are still busy
sharpening their pencils.

Now to my point, today out of the blue, our team was rounded up,
"No questions please, leave your coffee and all belongings", and
given a test wherein, you must make a straight line to connect arrows,
in row upon row.

No mathematical questions nor applied mathematics for that matter;
pure and simple scribbling a straight line. I laughed when I first
opened my booklet, because I thought to myself,

[b]"This must be the easiest darn test in the world, watch me pull
a rabbit out of this hat!"[/b]

Five minutes into the testing, my friggin' hand was numb.
I looked around the room and witnessed all kinds of folks
hand wrenching and literally writhing in pain from the test.
Heads shaking and mumbling curses(perhaps from the left behind coffee)
etc...

I completed 215 character sets before the five minute limit
alarm went off to a room full of disgruntled participants.

We were speculating for at least half an hour afterwards,
as to what in the world the results would convey to our overlords.

Here are a few, I don't want to tip my hand(no pun intended) entirely,

* To test for early signs of Parkinson's Disease
* To see if folks had shown up inebriated for work
* To see who has visual problems (after awhile it's hard to keep track of the arrows)
* To see who would refuse this silly test

Please note, the test was administered by a government official and was
not for health related purposes according to the facilitator.
The test was created by The McGraw Hill Company.

Do you folks have any idea what kind of results this test may convey?

p.s. #$@! you McGraw Hill!
[img]http://images.indiatvnews.com/businessindia/McGraw-Hill-Fin7133.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Oct 18, 2013 04:37PM)
I'm going to offer some guesses BEFORE trying to google it.

To see who would most conscientiously follow the test without questioning why.

Or the exact opposite like you suggested above:

Who would refuse to take the silly test.

OK, now I'll go try and google. it.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 18, 2013 04:37PM)
Earth to Rocky,
"What video?"

Good thing you didn't have to take it,
You would have failed mon frere'.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Oct 18, 2013 04:43PM)
Devious, where did I say video?

haha, got you. I edited it BEFORE you were able to post your response.

OK, I'll admit to my initial confusion. When I first glanced at the picture you posted, the McGraw Hill Financial symbol looked like a play button and I thought I was looking at some type of embedded video. (Not that I've ever seen an embedded video on the Café message boards before! DOH!)
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 18, 2013 04:48PM)
Yes, you were quicker on the draw there guy, touche' again.

It is possible to embed video here, but only two folks have
ever done so to my knowledge, Jamie Grant and myself.

p.s. I scored five number two black pencils out of the deal.
Message: Posted by: landmark (Oct 18, 2013 04:54PM)
Socialist plot to redistribute the surplus of number two black pencils?
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 18, 2013 04:57PM)
@Landmark,
It's interesting that you say so, for these little puppies were
manufactured in (May-Hee-Ko). I did enjoy your comment nonetheless!

[img]http://www.theofficedealer.com/resources/Out-of-Package/1373558194/51761.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 18, 2013 05:09PM)
I forgot to mention one fellow, I won't mention his name,
but it starts with an M and ends with an L.

He asked the facilitator, "If you were me what would you do?"
"I would take the test." replied the facilitator.

"It's too bad you're not me." he said in a matter of factly tone,
and walked out the door. We all had to shake our heads at that
moment. I felt like I was back in grade school.
Message: Posted by: Magic.J.Manuel (Oct 18, 2013 05:19PM)
Maybe they were testing who would steal the most pencils!
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 18, 2013 05:29PM)
I just couldn't resist there Manuel. Can you say, "Flip-Stick?"

She did say, "Take as many pencils as you think you will need."
She never asked for what right?
Message: Posted by: Pakar Ilusi (Oct 18, 2013 10:26PM)
That's not strange.

You should see some casting couch videos. :P
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Oct 20, 2013 02:48PM)
So, when will you be spilling the beans?
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Oct 20, 2013 09:25PM)
Maybe they wanted to see who would make all the marks that go in one direction and then turned the paper to make all the marks in another direction , etc.

Or maybe they were testing to see how long or how much writing the average person can do now-a-days before experiencing writers cramp.

Either way "the take as many pencils as you think you need" is a clear sign that they are screwing with your head with some kind of phycological test.

Let us know what it was, I'm really curious.

-Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: balducci (Oct 20, 2013 09:31PM)
[quote]
On 2013-10-18 17:26, Devious wrote:

We were speculating for at least half an hour afterwards,
as to what in the world the results would convey to our overlords.

Here are a few, I don't want to tip my hand(no pun intended) entirely,

* To test for early signs of Parkinson's Disease
* To see if folks had shown up inebriated for work
* To see who has visual problems (after awhile it's hard to keep track of the arrows)
* To see who would refuse this silly test

Please note, the test was administered by a government official and was
not for health related purposes according to the facilitator.
The test was created by The McGraw Hill Company.

Do you folks have any idea what kind of results this test may convey?
[/quote]
It's not clear to me, based on what Devious wrote, that he even knows what the test was for.

But if he does I hope he remembers to tell us.
Message: Posted by: balducci (Oct 20, 2013 09:32PM)
[quote]
On 2013-10-18 18:29, Devious wrote:

She did say, "Take as many pencils as you think you will need."
She never asked for what right?
[/quote]
I would have taken 2 and used 1 as a straight edge.
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Oct 20, 2013 09:38PM)
Excellent thinking. That might have been exactly the kind of creative thought they were testing for.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 21, 2013 12:04PM)
@ Mary,
I actually started with upstrokes, then I had
a revelation, "Hey it won't hurt as much if
I start using up strokes." This allowed me to
exersize other muscles and got me back on track
at my former pace.

@Balducci,
It took sharp marks to connect the arrows. They
were very close to one another. If you started
to lose the sharpness, your marks would bleed into
one another, thus the "Take as many pencils as you
think you will need?" remark, I suppose.

Using one pencil to create a straight edge would
have been a tremendous asset in the test and is
one that I hadn't considered.

I understand now that leaving the coffee behind
was to allow folks to perhaps not be as jittery
during the test because of the caffeine buzz etc...

I promise to reveal what it was for, when I find
out. Each of us must return individually back to
the facilitator on thursday at various times.

p.s I don't mind taking tests when I'm getting
compensated for them during normal work hours.
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Oct 21, 2013 01:20PM)
My guess- ergonomic study for future test design, to see how fatigue and repetitive motion affects test results. The interviewer on Thursday will see if your hand is still sore, etc. and they'll use the data to design better methods to mark answers on tests.
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Oct 24, 2013 12:39PM)
Well? What's the scoop?
Message: Posted by: Ekuth (Oct 24, 2013 03:30PM)
Bloody *** odd, any way you slice it.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Oct 24, 2013 04:28PM)
Since I'm a pencil hoor, I would have stuffed several of those babies into my pockets.

And I am happy that such tests mean nothing to me, and if I had to take one....well...I'd just take the pencils.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 24, 2013 04:40PM)
The instrument was designed to assess an individual's precision psychomotor skills.

The task being recruited for, involves replacing micro-electronic components
in confined workspace, during a limited window of opportunity, in a dynamic environment.

I scored above average and was asked if I would like to particpate in a simulation lab
secondary test in Cupertino, CA. I will give them my response on Monday.

Some folks were told that the results may reveal early signs of Parkinson's Disease,
whilst others were told, "Thank you for participating."
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Oct 24, 2013 04:49PM)
[quote]
On 2013-10-24 17:40, Devious wrote:
...

The task being recruited for, involves replacing micro-electronic components
in confined workspace, during a limited window of opportunity, in a dynamic environment.

...
[/quote]

It sounds almost as much fun as hard labor in a rock quarry would be. Best of luck! :)
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Oct 24, 2013 04:58PM)
[quote]
On 2013-10-24 17:49, rockwall wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-10-24 17:40, Devious wrote:
...

The task being recruited for, involves replacing micro-electronic components
in confined workspace, during a limited window of opportunity, in a dynamic environment.

...
[/quote]

It sounds almost as much fun as hard labor in a rock quarry would be. Best of luck! :)

[/quote]
Sounds like they're looking for people to work in a sweatshop fixing broken iPads...
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 24, 2013 05:12PM)
I'm leaning towards participating. I always welcome
the opportunity to visit the bay area.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Oct 24, 2013 05:25PM)
If you do, please fill us in on the experience. Sounds interesting.
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Oct 24, 2013 08:32PM)
You could have played a game of operation to find that out.

Since they are giving different answers to different folks I still think they might be disingenuous.

Unless you think they are just telling you the truth and lying to the rubes.

Watch your back Devious.

-Mary

rockwall, Your photo is really distressing, you may need an ointment.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 25, 2013 12:20PM)
Thank you Mary, five of us were offered the opportunity.
We've decided to have some fun with it and give it a go.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Oct 27, 2013 03:43PM)
[quote]
On 2013-10-24 21:32, Mary Mowder wrote:
...

rockwall, Your photo is really distressing, you may need an ointment.
[/quote]

Thank you for your concern Mary. I think I'll feel better after Halloween.
Message: Posted by: Tom Jorgenson (Oct 27, 2013 05:53PM)
Yup, chomping on the fat little children always plumps you up nicely for the winter. Clears up those bloodshot eyes, too.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (Dec 17, 2013 08:03PM)
Did you ever participate in the secondary test, Devious?
Message: Posted by: Devious (Dec 18, 2013 11:48AM)
@Rockwall,
Welcome back guy, you sort of fell off the face of the Earth.

I most certainly did. I will be informed in the latter part of January,
as to my selection. Reference and background checks are being run on me
as we speak, according to one reference who happens to be a former neighbor.

I feel that I performed remarkably. I learned much
about why certain protocols were followed in retrospect.

I was also interviewed by the project manager, who shared my love
of sleight of hand. The topic came up during our discussion on
digit dexterity.