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Topic: Gnostic Deck...and related things
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Oct 24, 2013 05:54AM)
Hello Mental folks, I am starting this post to tell you of the Gnostic Deck and some related designs I am putting on the market soon. The Gnostic deck will be a playing card deck specifically designed for mentalists. I have been working on this for many moons, and it is almost complete. I should be printed around Chinese new year... Below is an image of the back desing to wet your appitite...

Also, I have designed a shirt with the imagery from the joker. See the link below. there are other Mentalism related images at my t-shirt shop, so enjoy a quick browse. Looking forward to having a deck out there for the menatlism community..

Best, Stuart!

http://curiosity.spreadshirt.com/abraxas-on-dark-tee-A13766483/customize/color/2
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Oct 24, 2013 05:56AM)
Hmm, going to have to try and post that image again...stay tuned...
Message: Posted by: george1953 (Oct 24, 2013 06:26AM)
Link Works for me
Message: Posted by: Bard (Oct 24, 2013 06:59AM)
Ok buddy. . . as someone that studies gnosticism I'm trying to figure out how this is a gnostic design. . .

Ok. . . busting your chops a bit. . . not all gnostics were Gnostic-Christian, but this kind of smells more like Abramelin. . . (a.k.a. a magickle water-melon)

As always, great & cunning concept can't wait to see it.
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Oct 24, 2013 11:54AM)
The image on the shirt is just the Joker. Abraxas as a rooster headed snake tailed god of gods and ruler of 365 is based on the images from Abraxas stones. I added the suits and the checker patterns as the God Abraxas is much akin to ying and yang in his dualism between light and dark, and as it is a joker in a deck of cards the suits are relevant. As above so below. I know little of Abramelin and have yet to study his book. I added the abracadabra triangle as I like the idea that the term makes some reference to Abraxas. The deck back design and box have a lot of symbology, but it is more designed to be of use in our art than it is to be a firm representation of Gnostic symbology.

I am curious though, what imagery would you find most important for Gnosticism?
Message: Posted by: count_cashliostro (Oct 28, 2013 08:59PM)
Id love to hear more about the cards. Is it a standard deck other than joker? Are the face cards somehow "gnosticky"?
Message: Posted by: count_cashliostro (Oct 28, 2013 09:04PM)
[quote]
Ok. . . busting your chops a bit. . . not all gnostics were Gnostic-Christian, but this kind of smells more like Abramelin. . . (a.k.a. a magickle water-melon)

As always, great & cunning concept can't wait to see it.
[/quote]

What's wrong with good ol Abramelin the Mage?
Message: Posted by: MatthewSims (Oct 28, 2013 09:54PM)
Hmmm. Interesting. What would be a proper book to learn more about this subject?
Message: Posted by: Chaz93 (Oct 28, 2013 10:10PM)
This is one of my favorite books on the subject:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/8299824370/ref=s9_psimh_gw_p14_d10_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0RR674X1QWVJPHGFFW6B&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1630072222&pf_rd_i=507846
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Oct 29, 2013 12:52AM)
The faces of the cards will be standard except for the ace and jokers. There will be many special hidden things however. I'm keeping the faces standard so that they will work with regular double faders and such,
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Nov 10, 2013 12:26AM)
*double facers
Message: Posted by: count_cashliostro (Nov 17, 2013 09:28PM)
[quote]
Ok. . . busting your chops a bit. . . not all gnostics were Gnostic-Christian, but this kind of smells more like Abramelin. . . (a.k.a. a magickle water-melon)

As always, great & cunning concept can't wait to see it.
[/quote]

What's wrong with good ol Abramelin the Mage?
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Jan 21, 2014 04:15AM)
The Gnostic deck went out for printing today. This new specialty printed deck will be available for purchase around the end of February 2014.

The Gnostic deck uses imagery hand drawn, painted and designed by Stuart Palm based on imagery from his research into Gnostic and alchemical imagery. The Joker and Ace of spades images have also been individually drawn representing gods from Gnostic mythology.

The Legends Playing Card Co. has proven to create the highest quality playing cards in paper quality, inks and finish. Their first deck The Legends deck, already raised the bar on paper quality, and they have only improved their process since then. All the ink colours in this photo are approximations of the printing colors.

The box will be printed on black mat paper with a gold foil interior. The box inks are all foil pressed metallic gold, rose gold, metallic blue, and white. The two-tone gold/red and rose-gold/black cards are PantoneŽ spot colored using metallic gold inks. (The blue back card will be a darker blue tone than shown here.)

We look forward to providing this deck for all those with a passion for quality playing cards and an interest in exploring hidden knowledge.
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Jan 21, 2014 04:22AM)
Image...
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Jan 21, 2014 04:23AM)
Image...trying again...
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Jan 21, 2014 04:37AM)
Alright, couldn't get the attachement to work on this even at 54k... find images at this link:

http://stuartpalm.com/blog/2014/1/21/the-gnostic-deck.html
Message: Posted by: Chaz93 (Jan 21, 2014 06:30AM)
Are these cards m****d in any way?
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Jan 21, 2014 12:04PM)
Lol Chaz, that's the most unsubtle attempt at hiding something I have seen in a while. I designed the deck especially for mystery entertainers. I'm going to release an ebook that describes all the symbolism in the designs and how to use them to enhance readings and add special moments to a presentation involving cards. This is not the place to describe what that entails. So look for that at the end of February.
Message: Posted by: Smoking Camel (Jan 21, 2014 12:09PM)
Have you been reading " untitled" an internet marketing publication that teaches how to flog people tee shirts online.

No thanks mate.
Message: Posted by: Chaz93 (Jan 21, 2014 12:16PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-21 13:04, StuartPalm wrote:
Lol Chaz, that's the most unsubtle attempt at hiding something I have seen in a while. I designed the deck especially for mystery entertainers. I'm going to release an ebook that describes all the symbolism in the designs and how to use them to enhance readings and add special moments to a presentation involving cards. This is not the place to describe what that entails. So look for that at the end of February.
[/quote]

I wasn't asking about the symbolism. I was asking about a feature of the deck and if it would be usable for my means. As far as the unsubtle hiding of something goes, it's common practice here to use the asterix in lieu of letters when dealing with certain phrases.

PM me if you don't want to answer here. Although if I read between the lines correctly I think I have the answer.
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Jan 21, 2014 02:01PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-21 13:09, Smoking Camel wrote:
Have you been reading " untitled" an internet marketing publication that teaches how to flog people tee shirts online.

No thanks mate.
[/quote]

What?
Message: Posted by: MatCult (Jan 22, 2014 02:48AM)
What do the faces look like? The site says the Joker and Ace of Spades have individual designs - are the rest just regular faces? Is it effectively just a deck with an alternative back design?
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Jan 22, 2014 03:26AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-21 05:15, StuartPalm wrote:
The Gnostic deck went out for printing today. This new specialty printed deck will be available for purchase around the end of February 2014.

The Gnostic deck uses imagery hand drawn, painted and designed by Stuart Palm based on imagery from his research into Gnostic and alchemical imagery. The Joker and Ace of spades images have also been individually drawn representing gods from Gnostic mythology.

The Legends Playing Card Co. has proven to create the highest quality playing cards in paper quality, inks and finish. Their first deck The Legends deck, already raised the bar on paper quality, and they have only improved their process since then. All the ink colours in this photo are approximations of the printing colors.

The box will be printed on black mat paper with a gold foil interior. The box inks are all foil pressed metallic gold, rose gold, metallic blue, and white. The two-tone gold/red and rose-gold/black cards are PantoneŽ spot colored using metallic gold inks. (The blue back card will be a darker blue tone than shown here.)

We look forward to providing this deck for all those with a passion for quality playing cards and an interest in exploring hidden knowledge.

[/quote]

Correction: Looks like with shipping time from Asia that sales in the west will be much later. I'll update when I know the time that they are available.

To answer the last post (which I have answered earlier in this thread) There are some slight hidden things in the face cards, but mostly they will match a bicycle face. I have kept this so that they can be used for such effects as the chicago opener and have more flexibility for magicians.

All the best!
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Jul 23, 2014 11:31AM)
Deck is released. A review from a friend of mine was just posted here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewforum.php?forum=337

Also, there is a book of effects with the deck and some specialty items for mentalists and mystery performers in my mystery shop, which is a password protected thing, you can find by clicking on the books of my shop page. Password is the title of the last chapter of 13 Steps, no spaces.
Message: Posted by: Juno Temple (Oct 5, 2014 05:54AM)
Greetings Fellow Wizards & Cardicians,

If you're looking for a deck of cards that feel and act in a refined, flowing, linen stock quality, or even the newer finishes that allow cards to glide with ease . . . then allow me be to be brief, on the quality of the Gnostic deck, created by Stuart Palm et al, having the gold/brown version in my hands. Remember Kem playing cards; essentially a 'plastic' hard feeling deck? That's it "Mental Folks"(as Stuart Palm addresses us).
Message: Posted by: Art Vanderlay (Oct 23, 2014 09:29AM)
Here is my 6 word review:

The BEST deck of cards ever

Kind regards
Art
Message: Posted by: Amirá (Oct 23, 2014 10:38AM)
Classy images, beautiful card case design, smooth as silk.

My highest recommendation. Get one deck or as many as you want, this is a truly piece of art that you can use to do readings and your favorite mentalistic card tricks.


Best
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Dec 7, 2014 05:33PM)
Thanks guys, haven't been on here in a while and it's nice to see such generosity in words on the Gnostic Playing Cards.

Just to be clear for others, Juno's note is quite misleading, and I'm sure many card workers could chime in on the paper, finish, and cut quality of decks created by the legends playing card co. who manufactured the Gnostic deck for me. Juno has compared the card stock to fully plastic cards which is simply not a fair comparison. The gnostic deck is printed on paper stock that has the legends "diamond finish." These cards have been handled by some of the top workers in the world who love the finish and the cut. That said I designed them for mentalists and mystery entertainers so the paper handling quality is secondary to all the other abilities built into the deck. While they do fan and faro beautifully right out of the box, the construction and finish is more for longevity. The box for the deck will last a long time, it's probably the strongest tuck box on the market, the cards will also last you for many performances and work well in humid and hot climates as well as cold. I made sure of this as I live in Hong Kong and also often perform in Singapore where it can be like living in a sauna.

Blessings all,
Stuart
Message: Posted by: One Eyed Jack (Dec 8, 2014 05:37AM)
I have one of each colour of Stuart's Gnostic deck and to be fair to Juno if you want a deck to use for your XCM then these probably aren't the ones for you. It's true, they don't glide as smoothly as some of the other decks that are on the market. But the quality and design of them is beautiful and they are made to last the mystery entertainer for years to come.
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Dec 8, 2014 09:41AM)
True, these are most definitely not designed for xcm. But I'm not sure what kind of feel people want, I find the legends card stock to be superior for all card handling. Just ask Bill Kolush, one of the worlds greatest card workers, he uses the same paper stock and finish for the expert decks. Once you start using them the uspcc cards feel cheap. And they don't have that problem of turning black when they get damp. I don't want people to get the idea that they aren't smooth, they fan beautifully, and they work beautifully for any sleight, they are even cut for a better DL. A LOT of work went into perfecting the finish and pressing of the paper. So when I see them being compared to a sheet of plastic it just confuses me.

Btw, where are you all purchasing yours from?
Message: Posted by: jaizon (Dec 8, 2014 01:14PM)
[quote]On Dec 8, 2014, StuartPalm wrote:
True, these are most definitely not designed for xcm. But I'm not sure what kind of feel people want, I find the legends card stock to be superior for all card handling. Just ask Bill Kolush, one of the worlds greatest card workers, he uses the same paper stock and finish for the expert decks. Once you start using them the uspcc cards feel cheap. And they don't have that problem of turning black when they get damp. I don't want people to get the idea that they aren't smooth, they fan beautifully, and they work beautifully for any sleight, they are even cut for a better DL. A LOT of work went into perfecting the finish and pressing of the paper. So when I see them being compared to a sheet of plastic it just confuses me.

Btw, where are you all purchasing yours from? [/quote]

I have them and I agree. Stuart has put out a top shelf product.

Preston
Message: Posted by: One Eyed Jack (Dec 8, 2014 02:36PM)
I bought mine from the conjuring arts research centre. It was the only place that I could get the Gnostic trinity.
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Dec 9, 2014 09:15AM)
Thanks Jaizon,

True, CARC are the only ones selling the red deck. I have some that I give to clients and such. The decks were originally designed in black and gold, and then I added the blue back. Eventually I will be doing a 2.0. If you ever want to order more let me know.