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Topic: Farewell Show
Message: Posted by: Donnie (Dec 28, 2013 07:32PM)
Here is a clip of my 45 min comedy club act. It was the last show I played in ohio before my move to nyc. Note:There is foul language and adult themes. https://vimeo.com/82497573 the password is cuptrick.
Message: Posted by: Chad Sanborn (Dec 29, 2013 12:46AM)
Im glad it was free.
Message: Posted by: Medifro (Dec 29, 2013 03:59AM)
Hahaha! Loved it xD

- Feras
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (Dec 29, 2013 05:38AM)
Fun show 👍
Message: Posted by: BeThePlunk (Dec 29, 2013 07:55AM)
I got queasy in the stomach watching the show. I'd be terrified to invite so much audience interaction and depend on my ability to ad lib.
Message: Posted by: Doomo (Dec 29, 2013 09:29AM)
Not bad! My advice to anyone who thinks they can do this... Work for a year (at least) in the comedy clubs.

Message: Posted by: magicwatcher2005 (Dec 29, 2013 02:05PM)
My primary criticism is your use of standard "funny" lines and bits, apparently without knowing what makes them funny. This is a formula doomed to fail in any "real" performance venue.

For example, you do something sort of flourish-like, and then bitterly comment "That was x years of my life". This bit can be funny, but only if done correctly - 1) performer does something silently that obviously takes some skill and is WORTHY OF APPLAUSE after he finishes and gives a silent applause cue; 2) the audience realizes what he did was worthy of applause and responds appropriately; 3) performer allows applause to die down, waits one more beat, then deadpan comments: "Thanks. THAT was x years of my life".

Your use of it was kind of okay the first time, but then you kept repeating it throughout and all subsequent times you missed point 1 (did nothing worthy of applause), and 2 (audience wasn't impressed and didn't applaud much). Your failure to understand why the bit is funny leads you to not set it up correctly, and then you beat it to death through overuse.

If you want to do "comedy magic" you need to hang out and session with COMEDIANS, not just try to take bits other comedy magicians use and try to wedge them into your act. What makes it funny for them will not guarantee it's funny for you unless you understand what makes it funny AND it fits your character.
Message: Posted by: Donnie (Dec 29, 2013 03:10PM)

I've spent the last few years of my life just doing comedy magic. From your comments it is clear u've never worked a comedy club. Incidently, if you did hang w comics u'd know they don't session. They drink.
Message: Posted by: Donnie (Dec 29, 2013 03:13PM)
Message: Posted by: magicwatcher2005 (Dec 29, 2013 03:51PM)
Oh... my bad, Donnie.

Everything you do is clever, original, and extremely professional. You don't need any help at all, you're very, VERY funny, your comedic timing is impeccable, and clearly you have a bright future in comedy. Just keep doing exactly what you're doing and you'll be in constant high demand for all the free shows you can handle.

There, screw the truth - that's obviously what you wanted to hear instead.

However, shortly after college I shared a large house with several professional and semi-professional comedians, and I can tell you for a fact THEY "sessioned"... with other comics they respected - so maybe they just don't care to session with YOU.
Message: Posted by: MickNZ (Dec 29, 2013 08:07PM)
Is your hour long show (as described by both the MC and yourself) deliberately 41 minutes long or has 19 minutes been edited out?

Message: Posted by: Donnie (Dec 30, 2013 05:55AM)

Ha! I put this show up because it was a very sentimental endeavor. The venue was a place I hadn't worked in sometime because the money was not great. However, it was one of the earliest venues I had worked in. So, I worked with the owner to put together a free farewell show before my move. It was a way to say thanks. Consequently, the show was very fluid, I didn't feel like doing an hour despite that being the plan, so I didn't.

Do you have any performance vids, other than the ones of you in your mother's basement in front of stuffed animals?
On a serious note, you do seem like a very sad person. If you have some emotional problems and me mocking you exacerbates them I apologize.
Message: Posted by: magicwatcher2005 (Dec 30, 2013 12:12PM)
On 2013-12-30 06:55,

Do you have any performance vids, other than the ones of you in your mother's basement in front of stuffed animals?
On a serious note, you do seem like a very sad person. If you have some emotional problems and me mocking you exacerbates them I apologize.


Thanks for that. In turn, you seem like someone who is incapable of considering sincere criticism, and only wants to hear praise from people who think your performances are excellent just the way they are - which means you will never learn to be any better than you are right now. But maybe someday you'll realize that you can only REALLY learn from a critic who DOESN'T agree with your performance decisions; and believing you have nothing more to learn is the fast track to oblivion. Enjoy it down there.
Message: Posted by: harris (Jan 4, 2014 01:55PM)
Hack work does get one work at some levels.
Mostly used by mc's and openers. I love real improv and bits that seem off the cuff, though used hundreds or thousands of times.

Yes I have worked clubs and improv troupes as well as theatre

Enjoy N.Y., and your audiences

Still too old to know everything
Message: Posted by: ablanathanalba (Jan 4, 2014 08:32PM)
Good times.
Message: Posted by: BeThePlunk (Jan 5, 2014 07:17AM)
Boys, boys, can't we all just get along? Honestly, though, this trash talk raises a point about the problems of magic on video. As we watch Donnie's video, we see only one perspective. We have no idea what he's seeing from the stage, facial expressions, etc., and we can't really hear what comments are being tossed his way. We don't know the size of the room, the expectations of the crowd that frequents that club, personal chemistry, whether there are good friends right there in the front row... nada. We don't know Donnie's history with the club -- the owners and the regulars. The vibe must be very friendly for him to offer free work. As we all know, magic and comedy are live arts that happen in the moment. Video drains much of that life away. I say we take him at his word that it was a good night for him. Good luck in NYC. (Sorry to talk about you in the third person.)
Message: Posted by: Donnie (Jan 6, 2014 02:01PM)
I appreciate the comments. I think Doomo summed it up best, "Not bad! My advice to anyone who thinks they can do this... Work for a year (at least) in the comedy clubs."

I am surprised to see how polarizing this stuff is for magicians. I've been getting substantial pms from people saying they hate what I'm doing and others who love it. The general consensus from audiences is very good.

My intention in posting this was to be open. I have found the magic Café to be a very open and productive community. I was pleased with how intimate and raw my show turned out. I wanted to share it.

I am surprised at the number of comments I have received regarding my stage persona. I have heard comments ranging from "cool as hell" to "unlikeable and horrible." I think the magic is stellar and done in a way which is unique.

Once again, thank you for all of the comments, good and bad.

Message: Posted by: Chad Sanborn (Jan 6, 2014 06:50PM)
Don is a great guy! and like I told him. Not everyones opinions will agree on everything. And like he said its good to get feedback and opinions. You take what can, learn from it and move on!
He seems to be doing great and my only problem was the delivery. Don has good chops/ skills though I will give him that.
Don and I have decided to settle our disagreement with a magic off. The winner will get a golden thumbtip.
Message: Posted by: magicwatcher2005 (Jan 6, 2014 08:59PM)
On 2014-01-06 19:50, Chad Sanborn wrote:
Don and I have decided to settle our disagreement with a magic off. [b]The winner will get a golden thumbtip[/b].


What will Donnie get?
Message: Posted by: landmark (Jan 7, 2014 10:24AM)
As a New Yorker, I'll say I was entertained. I think you'll do fine.

Or get beat to a bloody pulp, but it's all in good fun.

Let us know when you get settled in NYC.
Message: Posted by: harris (Jan 7, 2014 12:03PM)
General statements.

Comedy is risky and wonderful!

How we react when a joke, routine does not work
Is as important as the well received stuff.

Have you scheduled any gigs.

Still too old to know it all
Message: Posted by: Chad Sanborn (Jan 7, 2014 04:01PM)
Yes I think Don should try out for Monday Night Magic in NYC!

Heck I would love to do that myself!