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Topic: Assistant Revenge build
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Jan 19, 2014 02:51PM)
Would you like to see me build my version of Assistant Revenge???
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jan 19, 2014 04:00PM)
Yes!
Message: Posted by: Bluesman (Jan 19, 2014 04:39PM)
Go for it.
Message: Posted by: TheRaven (Jan 20, 2014 12:18PM)
To paraphrase Shoeless Joe, "If you build it we will drool".
Message: Posted by: sammagic (Jan 21, 2014 09:24PM)
Would love to see this as I am currently building my son an Assistant Revenge.

It is not a full sized version, and will maybe change the usual curtain part of it to make it open more like the curtains you get on the windows in your house, but with velcro. The reason for that is that I want to make it more of a comedy routine for my son to perform in his schools show.

The idea is as follows.

1. He'll be put in the A.R.
2. Assistant closes curtain but leaves her head popping out the front.
3. She pulls head back in.
4. My son pops his head out, then rips curtain down to reveal assistant in A.R.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Jan 23, 2014 04:40AM)
My thinking is to go minimalistic and do away with the gimmick on the Assistant Revenge and replace it with the gimmick from the Web Illusion.
this is my wider Web illusion
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/widewebmine_zps7ee7b963.jpg
To get a idea of what the illusion would look like think of this much taller with a top and a web fabric http://i44.tinypic.com/2likft4.jpg stappeled to the gimmick.
Effect--girl would back up to the web fabric and be roped in. Bought the wood today $15. Because the Web gimmick idea is not mine I will ge limited on what I can show on the gimmick.
Message: Posted by: sammagic (Jan 23, 2014 08:25PM)
$15 dollars for wood, you guys have got it lucky over there in the states!!

I like your way of thinking of going minimalistic on it an am looking forward to the finished article. Be good to see what your final costs will be on it materials wise, as for the length of time the illusion lasts, it sure is a lot of money to spend if you were to buy one from a dealer.

I'm doing away with a base on the one that I am building as don't really think it needs one to be honest. Am also doing away with the usual straps or chains and using ropes to the front as you have mentioned. Reason for this is that my son normally performs at his school or the old peoples home in our town, and I thought that straps or chains would not be suitable for his shows.

I try to design my stuff with my son in mind, I try and simplify them so that he can learn to put things together and break things down himself.

Once I have finished the one I am building I will put a picture up on here.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Jan 24, 2014 04:24AM)
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On 2014-01-23 21:25, sammagic wrote:
$15 dollars for wood, you guys have got it lucky over there in the states!!

I like your way of thinking of going minimalistic on it an am looking forward to the finished article. Be good to see what your final costs will be on it materials wise, as for the length of time the illusion lasts, it sure is a lot of money to spend if you were to buy one from a dealer.

I'm doing away with a base on the one that I am building as don't really think it needs one to be honest. Am also doing away with the usual straps or chains and using ropes to the front as you have mentioned. Reason for this is that my son normally performs at his school or the old peoples home in our town, and I thought that straps or chains would not be suitable for his shows.

I try to design my stuff with my son in mind, I try and simplify them so that he can learn to put things together and break things down himself.

Once I have finished the one I am building I will put a picture up on here.
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The wood came from the deck section of the store ( took me over a Hr. to find 6 straigth peices).
Mine will have a very very very thin bace 1/4 " wood that sits on the stage (no wheels) illusion should be so light that 2 people could could pick up and turnaround if they wanted.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Jan 26, 2014 07:45AM)
All cut out (not much to see yet).
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/aswoodcutside_zps1de4a374.jpg
and
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/aswoodcuttop_zps228bb159.jpg
I also bought 7 eye bolts (you could use big eye screws if you don't have a drill press). I do like the more industrial look of the bolts.
Took around one hr. to cut out.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Jan 29, 2014 01:10PM)
Top and bottom done.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/ARtopandbotton_zpsf67d2978.jpg
The bigger of the two is the bottom (it does not move and the persons must step over this).
Message: Posted by: wizardpa (Jan 30, 2014 10:37AM)
Is it as easy to build as it looks?
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Jan 30, 2014 02:01PM)
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On 2014-01-30 11:37, wizardpa wrote:
Is it as easy to build as it looks?
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I have build a lot of web illusions but this is my first AR so we will see.
I can build a web in about 3 Hrs. this will take around 5 Hrs.(made over 1 month) I think (may not work ). This will not look like your fathers AR. going to hinge on a thin base this weekend.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Feb 2, 2014 10:30AM)
Base done.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/base_zps173cb552.jpg
The reason for a base---My version of this illusion may be a bit flimsy so I thought it was nesacary for a person/persons weight to help it be strong during the swith
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Feb 9, 2014 12:08PM)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/eyebolts_zps1eda8e83.jpg
got everything marked out and the eye bolts in. One thing I did not like about the web illusion was all the time it took to thread the prop so I added clips (the rope just clips in, very fast). The eye bolts and rope have nothing to do with the gimmick
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Mar 2, 2014 06:51AM)
Http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/ARtogather_zps9e83efe7.jpg
It does not look square to the eye but is (not sure why this is). I am going to beef up the base.
Message: Posted by: Chance Wolf (Mar 2, 2014 11:57AM)
Sometimes the cameras distort squared objects quite heavily. That may be why it looks odd.
Keep on working. I am curious to see the final project!
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Mar 9, 2014 11:23AM)
Got a new base made and the prop painted fat black. Also got 2 catches put on the gimmick. I also priced the orange plastic safety fence ( That I wanted to use for the back)--- $32.00 a role-- way over budget --- I will look for something else. I will try to get a picture of the prop up some time next week.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Mar 15, 2014 02:00PM)
Http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/messy_zps54a97413.jpg
sorry about the messy pix (in laundry room), just no time to drag outside to take a good pix.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Mar 22, 2014 10:39AM)
Http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/outsidebetst_zpsaaea22a2.jpg
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/tophookbest_zps1d224449.jpg
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Mar 29, 2014 02:03PM)
Finished-- Budget -- It came in on budget at $100. ( as I had a lot of the stuff in the shop). I do think is is around 5 sec. slower than the other gimmick ( as you do have to step over the base and duck under a top chain). I did staple and old carpet on the bottom, incase you want to turn the prop around before you start the trick. The cloth I used was my old sheet cut down and stapled to the gimmick. I wanted a rip down curtain for the front, I used one blackout curtain panel velcroed only in 2 places to a PVC pipe. Magician lifts the curtain on the pipe and put in position--- magician just pulls down on the cloth to release it for the pipe. Hope to get pictures up next week. I come apart into only 4 pices and only 8 bolt hold it togather.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Apr 2, 2014 12:26PM)
Apart for transport.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/apart_zpsaf7cd2a4.jpg
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Apr 3, 2014 10:59AM)
Finished
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/finishedbestAR_zps3fb1ff01.jpg
I see this prop as a sub box (without the box). The way I would perform is have the girl back up into the prop and be laced in--Magician lifts bar with cloth and covers girl--Magician pick up another cloth in front of him (over lapping prop a little) as this cloth comes down a switch has taken place and now is the girl,she rips down cloth off prop showing the magician is now laced into the prop.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Apr 9, 2014 11:11AM)
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On Jan 21, 2014, sammagic wrote:
Would love to see this as I am currently building my son an Assistant Revenge.

It is not a full sized version, and will maybe change the usual curtain part of it to make it open more like the curtains you get on the windows in your house, but with velcro. The reason for that is that I want to make it more of a comedy routine for my son to perform in his schools show.

The idea is as follows.

1. He'll be put in the A.R.
2. Assistant closes curtain but leaves her head popping out the front.
3. She pulls head back in.
4. My son pops his head out, then rips curtain down to reveal assistant in A.R.
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Sammagic did you ever get yours built?? I would love to see a picture.
Message: Posted by: sammagic (Apr 13, 2014 09:04AM)
Illusionman2, it's virtually finished, just need a coat of paint and a bit of finishing off. When I get a chance will take a picture and post it on here.
Message: Posted by: illusionman2 (Apr 18, 2014 01:36PM)
If you don't like the red cloth that the girl backs up to before being be laced in, it can be replaced with anything flexible-- chain, rope, burlape or that plastic orange safety fence.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w221/illusionman2_photo/finishedbestAR_zps3fb1ff01.jpg