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Topic: Stupid Question . . .
Message: Posted by: KC Cameron (Mar 26, 2014 01:51PM)
Has anyone busked doing magic on low stilts? I was thinking about it, but I think it could increase barrier between the audience and the busker. It would get you noticed and easy to see w/o having a box that limits your motions . . .

Any thoughts?
Message: Posted by: silvercup (Mar 26, 2014 02:05PM)
Fool me once shame on you,
Fool me twice shame on me.
Message: Posted by: NYCTwister (Mar 26, 2014 03:47PM)
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On Mar 26, 2014, silvercup wrote:
Fool me once shame on you,
Fool me twice shame on me.
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?????
I don't get it.
Message: Posted by: troppobob (Mar 26, 2014 04:42PM)
G'day

I was also not sure what you quote meant Silvercup so I did a quick google search and fond this lond discussion (I note that the opening sentance states that, "there many interpretations"):


For those who have ever wondered what the quote "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me" means, there are many interpretations. This is another way of saying "once bitten, twice shy."

In other words, there are people out there who are not what they seem. Some people will be pretend friendship for all of the wrong reasons, such as for money, or something else that can benefit
them. In either case, this is not good. Friendship is a selfless thing, which should not have ulterior motives. Unfortunately, this is not always the case. Friendship is only one case where this quote has significance. It is also appropriate in love, war and various situations.

If someone intentionally fools a person once, they will most likely try to fool them again. This quote deals generally and primarily with deception and human naivete. Deception does not even have to have a human face to it, but the underlying message is that there is no excuse for falling for the same things more than once.

While this quote does not discourage trust, it discourages trusting too much when the evidence is against it.

Human nature is to learn from experience, another aspect of this quote."Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me" is an example of an English proverb. A proverb is a phrase that states a general truth, based on the historic Proverbs in the Old Testament. Nearly every language and every culture has their own sets of proverbs. Both Confucius and Buddha are major sources for proverbs. A few examples of other English proverbs include "Better safe than sorry," which promotes caution. "Blood is thicker than water" talks about the importance of family, inferring that family loyalty always wins out in the end.

Bob Latta (aka Troppo Bob)
Message: Posted by: imgic (Mar 26, 2014 08:22PM)
Even after the long discourse...I don't get it

Back to OP...I've never seen magic on low stilts. Though it could be doable.
Try it and let us know how it goes...
Message: Posted by: KendallScot (Mar 27, 2014 07:44AM)
By "low" are you talking about 1 or 2 foot "drywall" style stilts? That could make some interesting costume ideas!

My first thought however is it might be a good idea. I always try to look at logistics in things. If you are taller by a foot or two, people can see you over the audience's heads and will not come closer. If they do not come closer they may not be obliged to tip. I think that if you are doing a paid gig and don't need to hat the crowd, it would be a great idea. I personally like my audiences close to me where I can control them like the mindless meat puppets that they are! muahahahahaha!

(Yes, that last part was entirely in jest... They are not always mindless...)

:-)
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Mar 28, 2014 01:39AM)
KC, I thought of your suggestion of stilts as "That's one out of the box!" Creative thinking, indeed.
I was thinking the stilts would be tin cans, but skip the string to pull them up on you feet with.
I'm also thinking, if you're on stilts what if you have to do the 52 Pickup trick? Actually, I think if you drop cards, why not let the
spectators pick them up for you?
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Mar 28, 2014 08:46AM)
KC I have statue friend who told me magic height is 18 inches but that is a statue. I suspect that a box to stand on is better because you can get low and high as you need to creating intimate and dynamic moments. Just like every thing have to try it every pitch is different and every performer is different
Message: Posted by: RiffRaff (Mar 28, 2014 08:48PM)
If fireperformer hasn't done it; then it's never been done.
Message: Posted by: KC Cameron (Mar 30, 2014 12:50PM)
Fireperformer911,
I don't know, it has been an idea I have kicked around for a while. Yes, a box you can get up and down on as mentioned, and that may prove more important. Stilts (such as drywall stilts mentioned by KendallScot) could keep people away, but I have a friend who does costumes on stilts and he gets people close. I imagine controlling the volume of my voice could overcome that issue (maybe not).

MagiCol
I never thought of cans. They could also provide sound that could be fun and attract people . . .

Anyway, I may try it, and if anyone else does I would be interested in hearing about their experience.

About Silvercup
I really don't understand Silvercup, except he is trying to toss some shade on me and attention on himself. He says "I mean what I say and I say what I mean." Which I would think that he would be very clear and understandable. I have found his "meaning" rather illusive at best. Then again, I have only conversed with him in one other thread. http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=547220&forum=6 I wish he had a profile so I could get an idea of who he is. . . Judge for yourself, or perhaps Silvercup can elaborate.
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Mar 31, 2014 09:06AM)
KC drywall stilts put you at least 2 feet in air and are about photos ops. In my experience this weekend ground level is more audience interaction and stilts are about photos. So it depends what kind of magic you want to perform watch me or interactive magic. The noise from cans would be annoying. Try it and please let us know
Message: Posted by: KC Cameron (Mar 31, 2014 09:21AM)
Fireperformer911,

You are right, drywall stilts would lose much interaction, and my show depends on that heavily. :( I had never thought of dividing shows that way until now . . . not sure why, it seems obvious. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Arkadia (Apr 1, 2014 01:49PM)
I've done it. Worked great to gather a huge crowd. Bigger walk-of somehow. Otherwise, worked fine. I've never had any problems with it, but I've mainly done it at festivals. Real street - I would make sure that I was not alone at the pitch.

/Ark
Message: Posted by: Zack (Apr 9, 2014 12:20AM)
I've seen it done by Christopher WOnder in a circle show. Looked like it worked well for him.