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Topic: Handling silks for mismade flag
Message: Posted by: Steve Hoffman (Jan 12, 2004 03:37AM)
Relatively new to silks. In fact, never used 'em until I got a mismade flag set & change bag . . . I've always enjoyed the mismade flag routine.

Here's my question. When loading the various flags (1 correct American flags & 2 mismade flags), is it better to place them in the change bag nicely folded and relatively flat, or kinda scrunched or crumpled up?

Seems to be if they come out looking too nice & neatly folded, that is inconsistent with the premise that the individual color silks have somehow "smushed" together to form the multi-color flag. Yet if they are loaded in a scrunched up/smushed together sort of way, it is harder (or so it seems to me) to ensure that I am pulling them out in correct order.

Steve HOffman
Takoma Park MD
Message: Posted by: Ron Reid (Jan 12, 2004 06:49AM)
Hi Steve:

Here's a tip that I learned from a lecture by Dave Risley. He says to take each flag, drape it over the change bag so the center of the flag is over the opening. Push the flag down to the bottom, and just tuck in any corners if they're still sticking out of the bag. Do this with each flag, in reverse order that they're going to come out.

This is the method is use. It works very well.

Message: Posted by: Steve Hoffman (Jan 12, 2004 10:01AM)
Great suggestion . . . thank you!!!

Steve H
Message: Posted by: Magicduck (Jan 12, 2004 01:12PM)
Not a direct response to your question, but a suggestion. I find the mismade flag is stronger when done in the classic manner....a tube rolled from paper, instead of the change bag. Methods of doing this are in Tarbell and many other basic books. If you want to play with it, you can make a nice dye tube from white PVC...drill holes in the center and put a ribbon thru to work as the stop. Then wrap a piece of file folder around it and glue. Then use for the paper tube a file folder and you are all set.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jan 12, 2004 08:25PM)
OK, I'm even weirder than I thought! MisMade Flag for me sometimes uses the change bag, but not usually. Usually I work it with some kind of box prop. That is by design because I am a dove worker as a rule and I like to unload my livestock first. The silk magic can be done any time in the routine. Yet, odds are better than 50% that I will produce a dove from the final flag.

However, your original question dealt with how to prepare the loads for production. In all cases, I fold all the load silks into a modified flat roll with the interior tip sticking out of the center. I pick up the silks to be produced by that exposed corner so that it is somewhat coiled when it is produced. My logic is, beyond simply being able to tell one silk from another, to have the silk clear the container as far as possible before it completely opens to view. When not using a change bag it allows me to grab the other top corner for display. It works for me. (I just never realized that I am folding it “round” and not stacking them, but standing the rolls on end.)

It is a great effect. Enjoy it!

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander