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Topic: Next new Tenyo Elite item coming soon
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jun 22, 2014 07:31AM)
Hello everyone.

We decided to put a second run on hold for the zig zag cig so we could work on the next item we wanted to release.

Like the zig zag cig we were told that this next item would not be possible to make in a wooden Elite form.
But I'm happy to report that I saw the latest prototype for this new item this past Friday, and it worked beautifully. The cosmetics just need to be finished this week and then we can send it to Japan for final approval. Baring no unforeseen changes that need to be done, we should be going into production and taking orders soon.
Like the Elite zig zag cig, this will be a first run of 50 units only, and limited to only 2 runs if we even decide to do a second run.

Stay tuned in the coming weeks.

Best,

Peter
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jun 22, 2014 08:10AM)
That is great news Peter!
Message: Posted by: ChasVH (Jun 22, 2014 04:12PM)
Exciting news Peter...... Sounds like Tenyo Elite is really beginning to hit its stride that we were all waiting for.

Count me in!

Charlie
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Jun 22, 2014 04:21PM)
Incredible! I like it that you are using the momentum and energy from your last release and venturing forward. You can always come back to the past and re-release popular effects, but keep the energy of "the new" alive and continue to venture onward. I can't wait to see what your team has planned for us next.

I also like that you are thinking ahead and publishing the run-quantity. This works in everyone's favor in my opinion. We know what you are offering, and you know your commitment to deliver. No grey areas. No looking back, and none of us Tenyo Elite "fanboys" can say we didn't know about a limited run. Thank you.

This is AWESOME!
Message: Posted by: ThatsCool (Jun 22, 2014 04:38PM)
[quote]On Jun 22, 2014, Wizard of Oz wrote:
You can always come back to the past and re-release popular......[/quote]

Imagine if [I]Magic Wagon[/I] did that. The value of their items would plummet as well as possibly make future customers leery about purchasing future tricks since they were supposed to be [I]limited[/I]. Therefore, going back and re releasing [I]"limited editions"[/I] doesn't seem like a good idea.
[quote]On Jun 22, 2014, Wizard of Oz wrote:
none of us Tenyo Elite "fanboys" can say we didn't know about a limited run.[/quote]

The exact reason why [I]"limited editions"[/I] should stay [I]"limited editions"[/I] ;).
Message: Posted by: ChasVH (Jun 23, 2014 12:32PM)
Well I think the point was they did say they could do up to 2 runs of 50 each up front. They sold out of the first run and have decided to pass on the second run and move on to the next effect. So they do have a window to come back and run JUST 50 more I believe because that is what they initially told everyone to start with. I don't have a problem with that if what I am saying is true. I would have a problem if they go over the amounts they say up front they are going to make of the limited run. So I agree with you "That's cool" but I think in this case they have not used up all of their announced limited run of a 100 total of Zig Zag in up to 2 offerings of 50. Peter can correct me if I am wrong on any of this. If I am off base on this then I stand corrected. Thanks

Charlie
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jun 23, 2014 03:40PM)
Charlie is correct.

We will not produce over 100 units for either Zig Zag cig or the latest one coming soon. Those two releases will be limited to 100 units each. But we are only producing 50 units of any one trick in a single run. However we reserve the right on whether or not the second run takes place at all and when. I hope that makes sense.

In any case thanks for the comments and feedback.

P.
Message: Posted by: ThatsCool (Jun 23, 2014 08:27PM)
[Quote]On Jun 23, 2014, ChasVH wrote:
Well I think the point was they did say they could do up to 2 runs of 50 each up front. They sold out of the first run and have decided to pass on the second run and move on to the next effect. So they do have a window to come back and run JUST 50 more I believe because that is what they initially told everyone to start with. I don't have a problem with that if what I am saying is true. I would have a problem if they go over the amounts they say up front they are going to make of the limited run. So I agree with you "That's cool" but I think in this case they have not used up all of their announced limited run of a 100 total of Zig Zag in up to 2 offerings of 50. Peter can correct me if I am wrong on any of this. If I am off base on this then I stand corrected. Thanks

Charlie [/quote]

Of course it's [I]TE's[/I] call on what they do. I wouldn't suggest otherwise :).

On your mention of runs and numbers. When the [I]Zig Zag[/I] was originally being sold there were posts telling people they were [I]"almost sold out"[/I], and it was a little vague on how many were being made. The words, [I]"first run"[/I] were used and some people were a bit confused on the numbers. It was said there [I]"may"[/I] be a second run depending on a few factors. Nothing was specific (not that it had to be), and a few members voiced their concerns about that. I have the posts referenced somewhere.

Regardless, as I have always believed and said, The [I]Tenyo Elite[/I] team appear to have a passion for [I]Tenyo[/I] and have been creating high end version's of past [I]Tenyo[/I] illusions. They care, obviously worked hard, and are still doing so. It 's any companies right to decide what to do and how to do it, just as Peter mentioned above ;). No matter how many are being made, making less the first time and selling out should only make people buy the second illusion they are working on that much faster, keep values, etc, as I said earlier. Either way, the team has been very open to suggestions, views, and input from Café members which is great :).
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Jun 23, 2014 08:55PM)
I was one if the ones confused and concerned about the wording when zig zag cig was announced.
Nothing was specific so it was impossible to gauge how limited the item would be.

After several posts things were eventually clarified.

This time however they are saying 50 units to start and no more than 100 ever made. I think it is much more clear and much better this time.
I appreciate the transparency.
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jun 24, 2014 06:49AM)
Hi Teevtee, and That's Cool,

We have always tried to be transparent when our contractual agreement with Tenyo allows us to be.
When the zigzag was announced you(Teevtee) asked the question on Jan 2nd about specific run quantities and by Jan 5th I came back to the thread and answered your question completey. I thought I apologized for the short delay in answering your question because I was in the hospital battling my cancer at the time. That question was in my field of expertise within the company which is why it wasn't addressed by Steve or Jason. We certainly did not intend to confuse anyone. If people were confused then it was certainly my fault for not being able to respond to you fast enough, and for that I appologize. I am happy no one is confused this time.

:-)

P.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Jun 25, 2014 01:16AM)
Clearly Peter your health is of a far greater importance than a magic trick or worse yet a question about a magic trick.
I hope that goes without saying and certainly I would not expect not want you to expend any energy whatsoever towards such silliness while you were dealing with much more important things.

My apologies if my questions came off as demands or attacks in any way.

Aside from not knowing that you were in the hospital at the time (I would not asked had I known) I think the confusion was because you had responded without directly answering my questions regarding quantities. Later you did answer them.

I am sure it was nothing but an oversight and as I said my questions surely should not have been paramount in your mind.

I am happy that things are now very clear pertaining to the next release and I look forward to hearing more about it.
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jun 25, 2014 05:39AM)
Hi Teevtee,

I don't feel attacked at all. :-)
I am simply sorry I made you feel confused. Honestly.

On Jan 2nd you asked your question about quantities.
Jan 5th (the next time I posted in the thread) I answered your question with a very detailed explanation to the best of my ability and knowledge at that time. So forgive me that I don't know what you mean by 'that I responded but didn't really answer your question but later did'. Now I'm confused lol.

I did say in that thread at the time that I believed there would likely be 50 made the first run and no more than 2 runs and no more than 100 total. We have produced the first run of 50 so far and still plan to do the second and final run of 50 when we can because the demand for them already surpasses this number greatly.

Whether or not a second run of any item happening will likely depend on demand as the main deciding factor(there are other factors but demand is a big one). We are not going to over produce items, that was a mistake we made with the first 2 Elite items. So I can tell you that the next item will have a first run of 50 for sure, and no more than 2 runs total and not exceeding 100 units total. But whether or not the second run takes place will depend on those deciding factors and is not guaranteed.

But more to the point, I apologize to anyone feeling confused at any time and prior to answering your initial question. That was not our intentions. I think everything is clearer this time around and I'm happy we can move forward.

P.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jun 25, 2014 06:21AM)
OK, will the first run be 50?.... Kidding! :-)
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Jun 25, 2014 10:19AM)
Peter:

It's all good and I hope you are doing well.

No need to go back and analyze the past, perhaps I recall incorrectly.
The good news is that you are moving forward and though I chose not to purchase Zig Zag Cig I eagerly await the next release.

Thanks again.
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Jun 25, 2014 01:53PM)
Hello all:

So Pete, how many are we doing again???!!! LOL! I'm kidding!

These things can get so confusing sometimes, so I'm glad that everyone is back on track. I got a chance to pick up the finished prototype yesterday (after the final touches/cosmetics that Peter mentions above were done), and I must say that I was blown away and everything worked.....well, like magic. :P

Anyhow we will keep you up to date as things move along, but I just wanted to chime in here. We are really excited about this latest release and think that you are all going to love it too!

Thank you for the continued support.

Best regards,

Jason
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Jun 27, 2014 07:47PM)
Exciting times ahead folks! :yippee:
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Jun 29, 2014 08:13PM)
Is the next Tenyo Elite item mainly for magicians or mentalists? (I love performing with the Fortune Sticks.)

George
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jul 1, 2014 06:16AM)
Hi George,

This next item would not be considered Mentalism.
But the plastic versions are very sought after by collectors, so we think fans of Tenyo are going to be very excited to see this next one in a wooden elite form.
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Jul 1, 2014 09:04PM)
You sir, are a tease. ;)
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jul 1, 2014 09:52PM)
Haha sorry Wiz! Luv ya though bro!
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Jul 3, 2014 03:52AM)
Hmmm very sought after by collectors - so it will (finally ;) ) be a (long?) discontinued, hard to find item. That's a HUGE plus - looking forward to it :)
Message: Posted by: MartiniMagic (Jul 7, 2014 02:37AM)
Do you have Tenyo Elite Fortune Sticks still for sale? I would like to buy a set.
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jul 7, 2014 06:26AM)
Hello Martinimagic,

Yes we have Elite Fortune Sticks in stock. They are available for purchase through our website:
www.tenyoelite.com

P.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jul 8, 2014 11:03AM)
Hey Peter, any update has the prototype been approved by Tenyo?

Cheers
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Jul 8, 2014 11:14AM)
Hello all:

I just wanted to let everyone know the exciting news, and that is that Tenyo approved our prototype! We are very pleased and can't wait to get these out and on sale.

We're now just working through the logistics of shooting a demo, getting our manufacturing info and timelines in place, etc. So please stay tuned!

Best regards,

Jason
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jul 8, 2014 12:00PM)
Great news Jason, thanks.

John
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Jul 11, 2014 04:21PM)
Boy, oh, boy: I want this new one very badly!
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Jul 11, 2014 09:33PM)
[quote]On Jul 8, 2014, Jason Palter wrote:
Hello all:

I just wanted to let everyone know the exciting news, and that is that Tenyo approved our prototype! We are very pleased and can't wait to get these out and on sale.

We're now just working through the logistics of shooting a demo, getting our manufacturing info and timelines in place, etc. So please stay tuned!

Best regards,

Jason [/quote]

How did I miss this post? This is awesome news for any Tenyo aficionado, Elite or not. Thank you for the update. I am on pins and needles (probably plastic if they are Tenyo ;) ) and excitingly waiting for the "reveal".
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Jul 12, 2014 02:53AM)
[quote]On Jul 11, 2014, Wizard of Oz wrote:
... I am on pins and needles (probably plastic if they are Tenyo ;) ) ... [/quote]

No, they should be metal if it is Elite :)

I must admit I'm very, very curious about this new item. I read people didn't think it could be made out of wood, and after re-reading all the threads from the past I have one of two ideas of what it could be. And if it actually is 'the one' I'm thinking of/the one I'm hoping it to be I'll buy it in a second.

One quick question ... is this new item something 'cleverly gimmicked'/mechanical?

When can we expect the official release (more or less) or better yet when will you announce what effect it is?
Message: Posted by: pierredan (Aug 12, 2014 07:07AM)
Any updates?

Thank you.
Message: Posted by: MagiChrisMitch (Aug 13, 2014 02:28PM)
Time to gamble and sell off a "Ultra Tube."
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Aug 24, 2014 07:03AM)
Hey Folks,

We are now currently in production with the new item, and we should be making the announcement and begin taking orders with in the next few weeks. Yesterday I saw the first one completed off the line and it's beautiful! We anticipate these to sell out very very fast, so be sure to keep an eye out here and be sure to join our mailing list so you are among the first to receive the info and among the first to be able to place an order!

P.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Aug 24, 2014 09:10AM)
Great news Peter, thanks for the update.

John
Message: Posted by: scenic effects (Aug 25, 2014 09:56PM)
Is there an auto email to people who have purchased other Tenyo Elite to let them know that it's available -or do you have to keep checking the website?
Message: Posted by: ThatsCool (Aug 25, 2014 11:45PM)
Sounds exciting.
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Aug 26, 2014 05:49AM)
Scenic, you can join our mailing list here:

http://www.tenyoelite.com/contact-us.php

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: scenic effects (Aug 28, 2014 10:43PM)
Thanks for the email link. I got the Elite Moonspinner and the Fortune Sticks but missed out on the Zig-zag cig... I sure don't want to miss out on this one. I think they are excellent!
Message: Posted by: rhettbryson (Aug 30, 2014 07:01AM)
Peter - will you check to see that my eMail is on your list for the notification?

( rhett.bryson@furman.edu )

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Holistic Magic (Sep 8, 2014 07:44AM)
[quote]On Jul 7, 2014, MartiniMagic wrote:
Do you have Tenyo Elite Fortune Sticks still for sale? I would like to buy a set. [/quote]

I wound up getting these from a magic shop. I see the Moon Spinner for sale but not many places have the Fortune Sticks. I am glad that I got these, they are really nice. I have all three TEs now. I hope I am quick enough to get the new one. I would pay right now for the new one, sight unseen, if that was possible.

I like the way the carrying case is sectioned off for each stick. I have a question, on the carrying case for the Moon Spinner and Fortune Sticks. Are they leather or leatherette? Which ever it is, they are very nice and very purposeful. I like the way the Moon Spinner case is partitioned so you can do the switch at the end.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Sep 9, 2014 10:24PM)
Anticipation mounting...
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Sep 9, 2014 10:38PM)
I was just with [i]Steve Brooks[/i] in Beijing, China a few days ago and we were talking about the new Tenyo Elite item. Sounds like it's going to be the best one yet.
Message: Posted by: ThatsCool (Sep 10, 2014 07:50PM)
It sure will be ;).
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Oct 3, 2014 12:06PM)
OMG! Pants will be peed.
Message: Posted by: JimW (Oct 3, 2014 12:14PM)
I'm in. I'm still hoping for a second run of Zig Zag Cigarette, but I'm not missing out on this one.
Message: Posted by: JL608 (Oct 3, 2014 01:02PM)
[quote]On Oct 3, 2014, Wizard of Oz wrote:
OMG! Pants will be peed. [/quote]

Unfortunately, I confirm the above.
Message: Posted by: roblane (Oct 3, 2014 01:10PM)
OMG, just got email detailing new product. I hit the pay button straight away!!
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Oct 3, 2014 01:15PM)
The rumors are true...[url=http://www.tenyoelite.com]Ultra Tube[/url] is back baby!

P.
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Oct 3, 2014 01:25PM)
Fantastic decision Peter! Absolutely a home run. I going out to my mail box to start waiting...;)
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 3, 2014 01:27PM)
It's a beautiful thing me thinks. :jump:

[youtube]qWyGQLzhcjU[/youtube]

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Message: Posted by: edshern (Oct 3, 2014 01:29PM)
I'm in. It's the holy grail.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Oct 3, 2014 02:06PM)
Congrats Gents!
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Oct 3, 2014 02:44PM)
Hello all:

This thing is just amazing, and along with Steve and Peter, we are very proud of it and know you will love it!

Thank you again for your support!

Best regards,

Jason
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Oct 3, 2014 03:38PM)
This is a great choice...

I paid via PayPal and have a PayPal recipet showing the payment went through... however on the Tenyo Elite web site it still shows the item in my cart... is this normal?
As long as I have the PayPal reciept are we good... do I have one locked in?

Can someone from tenyo Elite please confirm?

Thanks
Message: Posted by: JimW (Oct 3, 2014 04:02PM)
Hmmm, same here. I'd guess we are safe since the payment went through, but it's strange that the item still shows in the cart.
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Oct 3, 2014 08:13PM)
I'm in the same boat regarding sales confirmation, and I pressed Pay literally as soon as the message hit my email inbox. But, I know the guys are working on it so I'm not worried. I'm just totally geeked out about this...frickin' Ultra Tube all grown up. I may not be able to sleep tonight...like thinking about Christmas. I know that makes me a total loser. But I don't care.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Oct 3, 2014 08:16PM)
You will be awake until mid November!
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Oct 3, 2014 09:08PM)
LOL Wizard... Am totaly with you! Looks amazing! Congrats Peter, Jason and Steve... You nailed it on this one.

John
Message: Posted by: roblane (Oct 4, 2014 11:31AM)
I wouldn't worry about the item still showing up in tour cart, I bought moonspinner and zigzag and they were both still in basket when I ordered ultra until I hit pay, then only ultra showed
Message: Posted by: aechecop (Oct 5, 2014 06:51PM)
Got lucky and got it!. Can´t wait... Mid November it is!
Message: Posted by: jaizon (Oct 14, 2014 09:44AM)
I missed on both ZZ and UT. How do I get on the list for the second run of both? Thank you.

Preston
Message: Posted by: ThatsCool (Oct 22, 2014 12:56AM)
I never got any confirmaiton email of my order for 2 and didn't hear back from [i]Tenyo Elite[/i] when I emailed them :(.

I am thinking the [i]PayPal[/i] glitch mentioned earlier means it didn't go through :(.
Message: Posted by: JimW (Oct 22, 2014 11:30AM)
Log into PayPal and check your account. Tenyo Elite said they were going to process refunds for anyone who ordered after the initial run was sold out. If you don't see a credit to your PayPal account you should be one of the lucky ones who made it in time.
Message: Posted by: ThatsCool (Oct 22, 2014 04:54PM)
It appears the order did not go through for some unexplained reason so the refund solution doesn't apply to me.

As I originally mentioned, I never head back from [i]TE[/i] either from my PM or email sent 2 weeks ago. However, after checking my "PM Sent" messages here, I see it was not read. I hope the person I sent it to is ok :).
Message: Posted by: roblane (Nov 9, 2014 07:49AM)
Mid Nov was the quoted release so hopefully only a week or so to go..........
Message: Posted by: pierredan (Nov 10, 2014 09:04AM)
Really, three times the same post?
Message: Posted by: roblane (Nov 11, 2014 12:44AM)
I was drinking, what's your excuse (other than obviously being rude?)