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Topic: Classic Palm Question
Message: Posted by: Ryan (Jun 13, 2002 09:33AM)
In Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, on page 1 the illistration shows the classic palm, but the hand looks flat. When I do the classic palm, I always have a slight cup shape to my hand. Is it possible to actually do the classic palm with a flat hand?
Message: Posted by: jokermh (Jun 13, 2002 10:47AM)
My question is why would you want it flat? Looks natural to have a slight cupping to the hand. When practicing this, I stand in front of the mirror and try to make the dirty hand look like the clean hand.

No offense intended, if I totally missed your question.
Message: Posted by: Dan Watkins (Jun 13, 2002 11:08AM)
With practice, it is possible to keep your hand flat. For example, I can place my hand completely flat on a table while holding a coin in classic palm. What is that good for? Nothing, other than to show your magician buddies, hey look what I can do.

Look at your hand when it is naturally at rest. All the fingers are slightly curled. The pinky tends to curl the most, and each finger slightly curls less as you go toward your index finger.

The hand has a soft curve look to it.

This is what you want your hand to look like while classic palming.

Also, make sure you are classic palming properly.

Click on my website link below and go to the foundations section. Answer an easy question - you said you have Bobo's, so you can answer the question.

Inside is an essay on the classic palm. Read it for my best advice on it.

Good luck,

Message: Posted by: Ryan (Jun 13, 2002 12:51PM)
Heh, thanks for the advice. The information on your page is excellent, alltho I am a little dismayed that I have been doing the classic wrong (and this after I already found out I was doing it wrong when I read Bobo). I can allready tell this is a better spot for the coin, as I can actually type with a coin palmed (altho they are falling out more often :rolleyes: ).

Well now I got even more questions. When moving the coins down to where you suggest, I notice I can no longer use bigger coins (I was using a coin with an inch diameter and had to switch to quarters). Would you advise that I stay with bigger or smaller coins?

While trying to get my pinky mussle to flex, I can push the coin into a nerve (I asume that I am now under this mussle), do I want to just wedge against this mussle, or try to get the coin 'under it' to prevent it from sliding?
Message: Posted by: Geoff Williams (Jun 13, 2002 01:40PM)
I have 5' 9" and have smallish hands. I find US half dollars to be the perfect size for classic palming.

For me, silver dollars are a bit too big and quarters seem slightly too small.

I would recommend palming with whichever size coin feels the best.
Message: Posted by: Dan Watkins (Jun 13, 2002 02:59PM)

You can palm with a coin closer to the wrist or closer to the index finger - see the picture I have of me palming multiple coins in a fan. You can put the coin in any of those places.

For me to palm silver dollars I have to put the coin a little further up in my hand toward my index finger.

The major issue is what muscles you use to hold the coin - that is very important. You don't want to use the part of the hand I point out not to.

Move the coin around to a comfortable position, using the proper muscles, there is room for adjustment.

Message: Posted by: Tricky (Jun 14, 2002 12:22PM)
I almost constantly have a coin lassic palmed and my hand is all big and muscular compared to my other hand and i can nearly get it flat but thats not what i strive for, naturalness (sp?) is what you want!
Message: Posted by: Ryan (Jun 14, 2002 12:49PM)
The reason I was asking about the flatness, is if I have a coin palmed in my right, and I want to wave it in a circular motion over my left hand, it looks a little odd if my hand is cupped. But now that I am using the proper mussles I find I can flatten it more then when I was doing it wrong..