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Topic: One handed tricks that are highly visual...
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 14, 2014 07:31PM)
I have a client that wants to train drivers to do magic for special needs kids that they are driving them. It has to be easy to learn and visual... What tricks come to your mind...

I thought of stiff rope...drooping flower...ball to square....
Message: Posted by: TonyB2009 (Aug 14, 2014 07:38PM)
Surely you need two hands to drive?
Message: Posted by: wwhokie1 (Aug 14, 2014 10:22PM)
Sounds worse than texting or using your cell phone while driving. Tell me I am misunderstanding, certainly they are not asking drivers to perform magic while driving. Magic is not a mindless activity, keep their mind on their driving and their hands on the wheel. Tell them to install a tv and play a dvd, it's a lot cheaper than all the medical bills, lawsuits, and tickets they will get when they cause an accident. I would have not part of this idea.
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 14, 2014 10:47PM)
I agree it would be conditional on them not being in motion when they did it.
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 14, 2014 10:48PM)
[quote]On Aug 14, 2014, TonyB2009 wrote:
Surely you need two hands to drive? [/quote] hey magicians drive blindfolded....;-)
Message: Posted by: Potty the Pirate (Aug 15, 2014 01:59AM)
Why "one-handed?"
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 15, 2014 07:50AM)
With their seat belt on... Turning to face the back seats wouldn't be comfy , so if they can do it with just their right hand it will work better in that setting.
Message: Posted by: Potty the Pirate (Aug 15, 2014 09:42AM)
???

Am I missing something here? You're suggesting that professional drivers, whilst wearing their seat belts, in the driving seat, might show tricks to kids who are their passengers?

They certainly can't be actually driving whilst doing tricks, moving or not. You're driving as long as the engine is running.

Sure, if the engine is switched off, and the vehicle is properly parked.....but if so, why not slip off the seat belt, and just pop into the back of the bus to amuse the kids?

Any other way, I envisage it having all kinds of potential legal consequences.
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 15, 2014 12:06PM)
Potty I hear ya... I am just researching right now... I don't want to be part of something that would put others on danger
Message: Posted by: 0pus (Aug 15, 2014 12:51PM)
OK.

So no magic while driving, operating heavy machinery or engaging in complex and potentially hazardous connubial activities.

What about if you are using a puppet (Yeah! That's it. A puppet!)? If you are operating a hand puppet that can't be used as a hand (it cannot grab, hold or bite a prop -- or that wouldn't look right), what tricks can you do with just the other hand?
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 15, 2014 01:47PM)
Heh puppets work...
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Aug 18, 2014 08:53PM)
Perform the Cube A Libre one handed while driving; then you can see how well the driver handles the bus and performs the trick by not dropping any cubes off the dash board while using a kid as a speed bump as he is standing at the bus stop.

:stuckinbag: <----- Kid at bus stop
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 18, 2014 10:19PM)
Lol perfect ;-)
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Aug 18, 2014 10:27PM)
Sorry, but, I think that this "idea" is absolutely ridiculous. Driving a vehicle requires total attention of the operator!
Message: Posted by: wwhokie1 (Aug 19, 2014 09:01AM)
My opinion. Teach magic to people who have a passion for magic, not just people who are looking for ways to keep kids from being rowdy. That usually ends in poor magic.

And that doesn't even address the insanity and legality of driving while performing magic.

Nothing good here.
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Aug 19, 2014 11:47AM)
I totally agree, WWH...!

I've mentored perhaps a dozen young fellows over the years. Several of them are now full time professionals, the others are avid amateurs ("amateur" from the Latin participle "amatus)--(loved).

I am not interested--and never have been--interested in "teaching" (???) the principles of what I love to curious people.

Margaret Dailey (she was a prime mover in establishing the SAM's youth program) asked me how I liked "her" idea. I told her exactly what I thought, as I had seen a sample! It was, IMHO, an after school "baby sitting " service!

Thanks for your comments!
Message: Posted by: A Show By Joe (Aug 19, 2014 06:31PM)
This is quite possibly the worst idea that I have ever heard of, ever.
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 19, 2014 07:35PM)
Lol I got more details and told them the driving part is illegal...they agreed... No magic done when they are driving..it would be used when they are picking up kids...so basically looking for easy eye candy magic.. Which there is tons...
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Aug 19, 2014 08:04PM)
[quote]On Aug 19, 2014, randyburtis wrote:
Lol I got more details and told them the driving part is illegal...they agreed... No magic done when they are driving..it would be used when they are picking up kids...so basically looking for easy eye candy magic.. Which there is tons... [/quote]

The doors of the bus are wide enough to drag a guillotine up the stairs and chop a few heads while waiting for a kid to take his seat
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Aug 19, 2014 08:10PM)
[quote]On Aug 18, 2014, Dick Oslund wrote:
Sorry, but, I think that this "idea" is absolutely ridiculous. Driving a vehicle requires total attention of the operator! [/quote]

[quote]On Aug 19, 2014, Dick Oslund wrote:
I totally agree, WWH...!

I've mentored perhaps a dozen young fellows over the years. Several of them are now full time professionals, the others are avid amateurs ("amateur" from the Latin participle "amatus)--(loved).

I am not interested--and never have been--interested in "teaching" (???) the principles of what I love to curious people.

Margaret Dailey (she was a prime mover in establishing the SAM's youth program) asked me how I liked "her" idea. I told her exactly what I thought, as I had seen a sample! It was, IMHO, an after school "baby sitting " service! [/quote]

Dick, I wish you would stop hemming and hawing and just tell us what you really think…LOL
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Aug 19, 2014 11:30PM)
[quote]On Aug 14, 2014, randyburtis wrote:
I have a client that wants to train drivers to do magic for special needs kids that they are driving them. It has to be easy to learn and visual... What tricks come to your mind...

I thought of stiff rope...drooping flower...ball to square.... [/quote]


I have worked for every conceivable "type" of special needs youngsters over a 50 year period.

Just doing TRICKS will not entertain them. It's the PRESENTATION, NOT THE TRICK!!!

MAGIC IS NOT INHERENTLY ENTERTAINING!!!
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Aug 19, 2014 11:34PM)
OK! I guess that I'll have to try harder!
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Aug 20, 2014 12:21AM)
[quote]On Aug 20, 2014, Dick Oslund wrote:


I have worked for every conceivable "type" of special needs youngsters over a 50 year period.



MAGIC IS NOT INHERENTLY ENTERTAINING!!! [/quote]

Dick; since we are finished talking about the safety of doing magic tricks while driving a bus, I can tell you, to me Magic is inherently entertaining!!!

I'm a special needs kid; my special needs consist of obtaining magic from companies like, Promystic, Collectors Workshop, Smokey Mountain Magic and Makime.

During the week, I can practice with magic for hours on end and entertain myself endlessly.


Then on Saturdays and Sundays, I go to children's houses on someone's birthday to do my show and everyone in the house is excited to see me; then after I'm done performing, I stay and have birthday cake with the kids and somewhere along the line, one of the kids parents gives me money... Dick, I gotta tell you... I love what I do...
Message: Posted by: Potty the Pirate (Aug 20, 2014 12:50AM)
What about an imaginary puppet? Or a stuffed toy hanging in the cab. No attempt at venting, but just a few funny exchanges between the driver and his little pal, talking about the kids, etc. The puppet could "whisper" in the driver's ear. Again, I still wouldn't recommend doing this while in motion, simply because that might be considered a "distraction".

If it appeals, the company could even invest in little uniforms, and have puppets dressed as bus conductors, who would welcome the kids on board. Makes me think of Glen Hester and his hilarious police pig puppet....
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Aug 20, 2014 06:57AM)
Sorry "H.D." I cannot agree with your premise. Maybe you are just kidding. (I note the words: "to me" and, "entertain myself" in your post.)

I'll return later today to explain my philosophy.
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 20, 2014 07:57AM)
Potty,thst is a fun and creative way...thanks!
Message: Posted by: A Show By Joe (Aug 20, 2014 07:53PM)
Are the kids guaranteed to stay seated while the driver is performing this? I think that Dick is right. Presentation is going to be big, and take time. What diagnosis is in your heading of special needs?
Message: Posted by: randyburtis (Aug 20, 2014 10:29PM)
Wide range...autism,physical disabilities, downs,etc...there won't be magic in the van,but rather when trying to get the kids into the van or to leave...
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Aug 21, 2014 11:31PM)
[quote]On Aug 20, 2014, randyburtis wrote:
Wide range...autism,physical disabilities, downs,etc...there won't be magic in the van,but rather when trying to get the kids into the van or to leave... [/quote]

Randy, when you listed the various special needs, I didn't see "MAGICIAN" listed
Message: Posted by: gmsmagic1 (Aug 23, 2014 11:51AM)
But seriously, I think we can all agree that performing magic while driving a vehicle is a terrible idea.

It's just not impressive enough!

If you really want to wow the passengers, try juggling while driving.


When the officer pulls you over and asks why you drove through the red light at the intersection, imagine his confusion when you respond "sorry officer, but I dropped my balls".

- Gary
Message: Posted by: wwhokie1 (Aug 23, 2014 12:35PM)
I find that when the speedometer hits 100 mph that you have the complete attention of all passengers - and maybe a few others.
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Aug 23, 2014 09:14PM)
[quote]On Aug 23, 2014, gmsmagic1 wrote:
But seriously, I think we can all agree that performing magic while driving a vehicle is a terrible idea.

It's just not impressive enough!

If you really want to wow the passengers, try juggling while driving.


When the officer pulls you over and asks why you drove through the red light at the intersection, imagine his confusion when you respond "sorry officer, but I dropped my balls".

- Gary [/quote]

Gary, you need to do as I did to perfect your craft, buy a bus and practice driving and juggling to WOW your passengers.

An officer will never pull me over while I drive and juggle because I know how to drive while juggling and I have never dropped balls.