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Topic: Mirror idea
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Aug 21, 2014 07:19AM)
Hey guys,
I will sometimes use a mirror (black) lying in the center of the table for a seance.

Do you think that it would be too much to place an item on the mirror such as a finger ring or locket and during the seance have it jump/move on the mirror? Overkill?




Ray
Message: Posted by: Lo Pan (Aug 21, 2014 07:24AM)
Could you devise a way to have the mirror fog up around the area where you place the object? It might be more subtle and just as spooky.
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Aug 21, 2014 07:32AM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2014, Lo Pan wrote:
Could you devise a way to have the mirror fog up around the area where you place the object? It might be more subtle and just as spooky. [/quote]


Mmmmmmm, I never thought of that idea....... Sound cool.

The mirror is used to just look into it as the sitter's imagination takes over. I just thought that it would be nice to place the ring or locket of whom I am trying to connect with on the mirror. This would be done to help the spirit come up to the surface/face of the mirror. And having the item jump would enhance the overall affect of staring into the black mirror.



Ray
Message: Posted by: KOTAH (Aug 21, 2014 10:16AM)
A mirror would be appropriate to a sťance . People used to cover them so the soul of the deceased would not be stolen by them.

The connection to the dead is built into its history.
Perhaps a mirror covered with a black veil over the ring could create a Hyrams Hank style rising effect?

Or movement or levitation of a PK ring could be provided by a strong PKM below the table.

I.T is yet another means to cause movement.

Kotah
Message: Posted by: Harley Newman (Aug 21, 2014 10:59AM)
Or the persons ring on the mirror, covered by hank, which then rises.
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Aug 21, 2014 11:03AM)
I used to gaze into my mirror at home when a small child .. Mirrors are spooky all by themselves!!! :applause:
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Aug 21, 2014 11:08AM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2014, KOTAH wrote:
A mirror would be appropriate to a sťance . People used to cover them so the soul of the deceased would not be stolen by them.

The connection to the dead is built into its history.
Perhaps a mirror covered with a black veil over the ring could create a Hyrams Hank style rising effect?

Or movement or levitation of a PK ring could be provided by a strong PKM below the table.

I.T is yet another means to cause movement.

Kotah [/quote]


I agree with what you have written and have already thought of those great ideas. As far as having the item jump and or move, I was thinking of making the mirror so that I didn't have to be near it. Sort of ....remote control.

I do have the black mirror covered at the start of the act to cause more attention to it. Once uncovered I talk about the beings that are on the other side of the glass. I called them Silverings. I also mention "When you brush your teeth or comb your hair at night before climbing into bed, and as you lay there under the safety of the covers, have you ever wondered if your reflection was still standing in the mirror ....... Watching.......... Watching you as you laid in bed?


Ray
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Aug 21, 2014 11:35AM)
If you start off with it covered, and then removing the veil during the seance - could you not use the usual liquids to create some kind of reveal/face when the mirror is fogged up/breathed upon? then rub it away subtly with the cloth as you put the veil back on it...

"closing the portal" as it were...
Message: Posted by: george1953 (Aug 21, 2014 11:43AM)
That's a great idea Iain, a sort of grandads glasses type of thing. Another thought would be to scratch a message on the back on the silvered side then place the mirror on a surface that has a small area the same colour. When you move the mirror off that area the message would become visible, you would only have to move it a fraction.
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Aug 21, 2014 11:56AM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2014, george1953 wrote:
That's a great idea Iain, a sort of grandads glasses type of thing. Another thought would be to scratch a message on the back on the silvered side then place the mirror on a surface that has a small area the same colour. When you move the mirror off that area the message would become visible, you would only have to move it a fraction. [/quote]


Yes, all good ideas Iain and George.

I have also played with the idea of having a red light appear from the mirror as I reached to pick up the finger ring. This looks really great but may be a little on the magic side. but .... Wow ..... It does look good in a darken room.


Ray
Message: Posted by: KOTAH (Aug 21, 2014 01:01PM)
I like the idea of the scratched and shifting mirror George has suggested.

It could be a self contained unit.

back of scrathed mirror cpvered with a sheath of black construction paper.

inside if this sheath a piece of half white, half black cardboard.
Depending upon how the morror is tipped, the writing appears or vanishes.

Kotah
Message: Posted by: Roth (Aug 21, 2014 01:45PM)
We have a method we're playing with that allows an image or words to appear on a black mirror. The words or images can be changed for different presentations.

It uses the high tech material used to instantly change your car windows to black. The nice thing is the default on this stuff is black and when you run a charge through it, it turns clear.

We took an oval piece of clear plexi. Behind it we put the electronic tint. Behind the tint we put black card stock with the image on it.

Hit the charge and the tint goes clear but the mirror still looks black because the tint goes clear in 1/300th of a second, so now you see the black matching card stock with the face on it.

Hit the charge and it disapears.

This mirror (mini traveling vanity) appears to "always be black" :)

Should have something to see late Sept.
Message: Posted by: Lo Pan (Aug 21, 2014 02:04PM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2014, george1953 wrote:
That's a great idea Iain, a sort of grandads glasses type of thing. Another thought would be to scratch a message on the back on the silvered side then place the mirror on a surface that has a small area the same colour. When you move the mirror off that area the message would become visible, you would only have to move it a fraction. [/quote]

These are some great ideas! I was thinking about the possibility of using a hidden humidifier which could either increase the humidity in the room or blow a very fine mist across the mirror from a secret vent close by - then have a device below to make a small area of the mirror very cool and therefore attract condensation or a foggy breath from beyond.
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Aug 21, 2014 02:07PM)
PMed you, Ray.
Message: Posted by: Lo Pan (Aug 21, 2014 02:10PM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2014, george1953 wrote:
That's a great idea Iain, a sort of grandads glasses type of thing. Another thought would be to scratch a message on the back on the silvered side then place the mirror on a surface that has a small area the same colour. When you move the mirror off that area the message would become visible, you would only have to move it a fraction. [/quote]


Possibly have a mirror cut thin so that when it sits within a frame it fills the visible area but can be slid to the right to reveal the message below the scratches while still filling the visible area.
Message: Posted by: KOTAH (Aug 21, 2014 02:19PM)
In either the low tech or high tech version of the back scratch mirror message,
By employing a resupinated ambigram you kill two birds for the price of one.

Kotah
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Aug 21, 2014 02:59PM)
It would be hugely angle-y, and would probably only work in your head...

however!

if you stood a set distance away from someone who was sat in a chair, and they could see their reflection in the black mirror, with the liquid stuff that you would usually use to draw on glass to create a reveal (when breathed upon) - you instead used a paintbrush and toothpick to draw on a humanish face, but with extra lines and so on, maybe at the right distance this would overlay their own reflection and they'd be able to see their own self contained imaginary demon/monster/whatever? or just an aged version of themself...

or, do without the liquid, and just have someone kiss the mirror before anyone gets there...show it briefly front and back, and in the seance reveal that one person would receive a kiss from the devil (or whatever)...hold the mirror up very close to them and ask them to whisper a name or talk...and their breath will naturally manifest the kissing lips to appear...
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Aug 21, 2014 03:50PM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2014, Slim King wrote:
I used to gaze into my mirror at home when a small child .. Mirrors are spooky all by themselves!!! :applause: [/quote]


Best, reply yet ! :-)
Let things happen in the minds of the sitters, without a gaffed mirror.
I use a Brush and Hand Mirror set (trigger items), the mirror is used by a participant to catch a flash or something that is unseen by the Human eye.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Aug 21, 2014 04:00PM)
Mirrors, so creepy.
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Aug 21, 2014 04:39PM)
If you don't mind pk'ing a small hand mirror, or just p**ming one, you can create something odd with a Higley eye...

stick a little label on top of the container saying "the most vain man in the world", and whenever you pass the mirror across the eye, it'll gaze at its own reflection on command...
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Aug 21, 2014 05:10PM)
Some great ideas here. I didn't think of the electronic tint idea, but was imagining something like the WOW card sleeve to create a similar effect. I was also trying to visualize how to place a simple object on the mirror, like a ring, and when it is removed, the reflection stays, but slowly fades.
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Aug 22, 2014 04:59AM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2014, Michael Baker wrote:
Some great ideas here. I didn't think of the electronic tint idea, but was imagining something like the WOW card sleeve to create a similar effect. I was also trying to visualize how to place a simple object on the mirror, like a ring, and when it is removed, the reflection stays, but slowly fades. [/quote]


From what Rick mention, this might work. I like that idea of having the reflection stay for a moment.

But, it would REALLY be something to have a reflection of an object appear in the mirror and you reach over and remove it up from the mirror. Heck Yea.........



Ray