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Topic: Valentino
Message: Posted by: Sir T (Jun 17, 2002 08:37PM)
Does anyone have contact information for this guy,Valentino better known as the Masked Magician??

I was trying to contact the guy for someone I know and I keep coming up empty? Any help would be nice.

If you want feel free to PM me the information.

Just me,
Kevin :kitty:
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Jun 18, 2002 12:22PM)
I think he's hiding :baby:
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Jun 20, 2002 09:09AM)
Actually, you might try contacting Valentina(she is a member here). If anyone would know how to contact Valentino, I would think it would be her.


http://www.themagiccafe.com/archive1/bb_profile.php?mode=view&user=1325
Message: Posted by: Tony Chapparo (Jun 22, 2002 06:38PM)
He SHOULD be hiding.... :rotf:
Message: Posted by: Sybilmagic (Jun 25, 2002 07:44AM)
maybe he should get a hiding
Message: Posted by: Dr. TORA (Jul 9, 2002 12:14PM)
He betrayed magic according to me. He gave away all the secrets from which he used to earn his life. Most important of all NONE of the secrets revealed by him have been invented by him. He is also a violator...He'd better hide somewhere.
Message: Posted by: Andy Leviss (Jul 12, 2002 09:01PM)
Much as you may not like him, I should remind you that any threat of violence against a person is considered assault in the US, regardless of whether you act on it or not (the act of carrying it out is battery, hence "assualt and battery"). Besides that, even if you're in another country, comments like, "He'd better hide somewhere," generally come across as stooping to Val's level and being fairly immature. Rise above it, guys! There's no need to threaten; Val's had his hit as far as bookings go for doing what he did.

Implicit or explicit threats of violence only make US look like the bad guys--don't you remember how much publicity Fox got out of the fact that magicians were loudly threatening to hurt or kill Val? It achieved the exact opposite of what they wanted, it called more attention to him, just as all the endless complaining and moaning about it months and years after the public has forgotten the details of the show has slowed the natural death of the public's memory of the MM.
Message: Posted by: mattneufeld (Jul 15, 2002 04:44PM)
Guys! Easy! I'm sure no one's assaulting and battering anyone, and "he'd better hide somewhere" isn't a threat, an assault, a battery, against the law, illegal, or anything else that would threaten any legal system! It could mean "he'd better hide somewhere 'cause everyone hates him and no one wants to see him," minus any type of threat or anything, or perhaps it could mean about 1,000 other interpretations! I'm sure that the nice, respectful folks who visit this web site are above using threats or anything else that suggests violence, of course. We're all above that here, of course!
Message: Posted by: Sir T (Jul 15, 2002 10:50PM)
If he is hiding, he is hiding because, he feels the need too. From what I have read, so far no one on this list has made a threat of bodily harm towards him. The way I read it is, statement of fact; meaning there are those who wish to harm him because of what he has done and I nor should anyone take what is posted as a threat, towards him.

I am still looking for contact information for him, for a friend and would welcome it. Heck, I would settle for his Agents number!

I respect the views posted and agree, He has sold out magic, but I still must honor the request for a friend and seek contact information.

Kevin :kitty:
Message: Posted by: Dr. TORA (Jul 16, 2002 02:38AM)
Guys I have already posted my reply to Andy (as a pm) so now he knows that I did not treat Val,I hope.
Tora
P.S. Thanks for the words interpreting what I meant.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jul 19, 2002 06:23PM)
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On 2002-06-18 13:22, Ichazod wrote:
I think he's hiding :baby:






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I think that's a good thing. Not a very popular fellow anymore.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Jul 22, 2002 02:43PM)
Why would any MAGICIAN want any contact with him anyway? :no:
Message: Posted by: Sir T (Jul 25, 2002 10:11PM)
Paul,

I am not looking for contact information for him for a MAGICIAN. A friend of mine would like to contact him, the reason are his own and I respect that. I am actually amazed that, I have posted this request in a few places and have come up empty--oh well, I have tried my best!

:kitty:
Message: Posted by: Dr. TORA (Jul 26, 2002 01:35AM)
Sir T,
I agree with Ichazod. If Valentina does not know how to contact him, nobody knows. I recommend that you check her again.
:magicrabbit: :coffee: