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Topic: Lasso Card Trick
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Mar 26, 2015 09:48AM)
Hello!
I would like to know who manufactures a Good quality Lasso Card Trick Rope.
I get one ( A cheap one ) by Loftus or Empire and I really didn't like it!
Thanks,
-H
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Mar 26, 2015 11:02AM)
I was going to suggest Loftus Novelty as your source, I don't know who else would be actually making a version with different construction materials. If you are not liking it, then I suggest you get Ted Lesley's DVD or Download called Cabaret Magic. He gives great handling and setup tips on the trick.

Download: http://llepub.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_4&products_id=376

The trick was a real hit back in the 1980's, for some reason it is very popular with German magicians. I don't know why or even who invented it or what dealer 1st put it on the market as several different magic manufacturers originally made it. As with most magic, once supplies are depleted they move on to the next "hot" magic item.

Loftus product is the nicest version I have ever seen. It use to be made with the thin (1/4"), cored, off white, magicians rope.
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Mar 28, 2015 02:30AM)
See paul potassy. I like his way of thinking and how his g*****k is constructed.
Message: Posted by: cheesewrestler (Apr 2, 2015 10:53PM)
You can easily make your own.

Annemann tells how.

As do others.
Message: Posted by: TommyJ (Apr 12, 2015 03:22PM)
Rich Marotta sells them on his site along with his great routine that I've used for years in my stand up adult shows. Cheesewrestler is right, its not hard to make.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 12, 2015 03:33PM)
I think paying $6 or $10 is a lot cheaper then all the hunting, searching for materials, and buying hanks of rope. I do suggest you get the referenced resources to learn a better way to set it up and learn how to present this trick.

Even Gaetan Bloom has a routine for this trick.

http://www.tricksupply.com/product-p/dvd3talesfromplanet.htm
Message: Posted by: TommyJ (Apr 13, 2015 09:50AM)
The trick is super strong. Been in my corporate shows for years. I even perform it in my kid shows using alphabet playing cards. Not hard to present at all. My full routine is on my Birthday Party Mania 3 DVD.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 13, 2015 11:33AM)
What is the appeal of this trick? Wouldn't Card To Orange be a stronger card revelation then lassoing a selected card?

Now I can see where if one wanted to learn some rope 'tricks' like snapping a knot in the rope would add to the trick, but without a build up, it does not look that mysterious or strong to me.
Message: Posted by: TommyJ (Apr 13, 2015 03:24PM)
It really is Bill, at least to the lay audience. In Rich's routine (it's the only routine that I've seen and that I perform) a paper lunch bag is shown empty and turned upside down "proving" it is empty. The illusion of the lasso going into the bag looks fairer than fair. So when the rope is pulled out with the selected card, I feel it is just as strong a revelation to the lay audience as say, the card in orange. MPO

I can attest, the applause automatically comes when they see the selected card. people really ARE amazed and in my head I'm saying to myself, "If they only knew." :)
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jun 4, 2015 07:36PM)
Gads... I had this in my lecture over 50 years ago. I called it "Rope Bag".
Message: Posted by: Paul (Oct 9, 2017 02:47PM)
[quote]On Mar 26, 2015, Bill Hegbli wrote:

The trick was a real hit back in the 1980's, for some reason it is very popular with German magicians. I don't know why or even who invented it or what dealer 1st put it on the market as several different magic manufacturers originally made it. As with most magic, once supplies are depleted they move on to the next "hot" magic item.

[/quote]

It was probably more popular among German magicians as the effect was created and first sold by German magic dealer Werry, who put it on the market in 1954. Most versions since have been unauthorized copies.

Karrell Fox published a completely different method for accomplishing the effect in one of his books (possibly "Another Book" published by Supreme).

Chazpro Magic put out a neat twist on the effect which I used to use in close up and for small childrens parties, called Ali Gator

http://www.chazpro.com/ali-gator/
Message: Posted by: Eugene Chekhov (Oct 15, 2017 04:21PM)
There is a version called - Fisher's Dream

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S19700
I had no experience with this trick. But my friends said good reviews. :online:
Message: Posted by: stempleton (Oct 26, 2017 03:52PM)
[quote]On Oct 15, 2017, Eugene Chekhov wrote:
There is a version called - Fisher's Dream

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S19700
I had no experience with this trick. But my friends said good reviews. :online: [/quote]

I recently put this version into a show, and although I was concerned about the handling which provides the "signed card" to be used, it went extremely smooth. In getting some audience feedback after the show, I do recommend using Rich Marotta's tip of "tying" a lasso to the end of the rope before dipping in the bag for the reveal (not used or described in the "Fisher's Dream" version.)
Message: Posted by: Senor Fabuloso (Oct 30, 2017 07:59AM)
Is there a no gimmick rope version that can be done with just sleight of hand? Like maybe with the one handed knot?
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Oct 31, 2017 05:48AM)
[quote]On Oct 30, 2017, Senor Fabuloso wrote:
Is there a no gimmick rope version that can be done with just sleight of hand? Like maybe with the one handed knot? [/quote]

If there was it would have been published in a book or magazine, nothing to sell without apparatus to include.

There is an old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

As your question implies that you are adapt to tying a one handed knot in a length of rope, so now all you have to do is work out the solution of putting it around the playing card.

I can see a way to do this, by adding a beautiful assistant, using switches, misdirection, and timing of movements. Looking forward to you published solution, before Penn and Teller do it on their show. I swear, they read my posts on the Café.
Message: Posted by: wally (Nov 8, 2017 02:32AM)
Fishers dream looks good, But I have not seen any others, I always like a comedy element to tricks, I will search through the others before I buy,
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Nov 9, 2017 10:57AM)
Idea: put the whole deck in the loop. Now shake the rope. One card us left. The chosen one.
Message: Posted by: Eugene Chekhov (Nov 10, 2017 07:58AM)
Http://llepub.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_11_9&products_id=505

Is it interesting - then the interpretation of the lasso card - or is it a completely different trick?
Message: Posted by: mandrax (Feb 5, 2018 10:35AM)
The one from chazpro is really good and very reliable. it is called Ali Gator and uses a chain.
Message: Posted by: Dollarbill (Jun 14, 2018 01:59PM)
Tomy hassini has one on his beginner magic. he uses a "pen that he got from the bank" (black pen with the chain connected to it still) but it does ruin the signed card as you have to stab thru it.
Message: Posted by: Julie (Jun 14, 2018 04:59PM)
[quote]On Nov 9, 2017, ROBERT BLAKE wrote:
Idea: put the whole deck in the loop. Now shake the rope. One card us left. The chosen one. [/quote]

This reminds me of Berg's Gallows Rope Trick without the endearing prop. :)

Julie
Message: Posted by: Sealegs (Jun 17, 2018 08:10AM)
There’s something about this trick that has always left me immensely underwhelmed. I’ve never performed it (and never will) and I think the effect is completely lame. However I can’t quite identify why.

It might be because as a magical feat I just don’t buy it. The fact it happens out of sight in a bag doesn’t help for sure but why it feels less real to me than a myriad of other magic tricks eludes me. (For instance stabbing the bag with a knife and impaling the selected card can look great to me.... and the solving a Rubik’s Cube in a paper bag can seem completely miraculous irrespective of the fact that it is no more magical... and is in fact arguably much less magical)

It could be because there’s too many magic things happening at once and they end up treading on each other’s toes... the selected card is being found and the rope is somehow tying itself into a knot and that knot is getting looped onto the found card and only the found card. (Perhaps this is the cause of my not ‘getting’ this trick? But it seems likely there are other reasonsinvolved too.... I just can’t pin-point them)

Anyway whatever the reason or reasons I have always thought this to be a really bad magic effect. And I’m guessing from the reaction of the assisting spectator in this video advertising the trick I’m not alone. :eek:

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S19700
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Jun 17, 2018 08:38AM)
Hey Neal! I think that "thee and me", agree!
Message: Posted by: Julie (Jun 18, 2018 09:56AM)
BOO! We do a version utilizing a skeleton-back deck, an orange ribbon and a spooky box ("Haunted House") from the Dollar Store. It always goes over well...

Scary Julie

P.S.> Also we've adapted the same routine/handling to a similar sized CHRISTMAS box, a red ribbon and holiday-backed deck from the same Dollar Store. Long live the Dollar Store!
note: both of these boxes are constructed like little houses with a pointed roof lid.

Julie the Elf :)
Message: Posted by: Sealegs (Jun 18, 2018 03:48PM)
I am total agreement wih the sentiment of ‘long live the Dollar Store’ but I suspect your target audience are kids and that’s a different ball game entirely from working with an adult audience.
Message: Posted by: Julie (Jun 18, 2018 04:54PM)
Dear Sealegs

The "effect" (see what I did there Dick? :)) plays well for both kids and adults. Based upon years of performing the difference is definitely in the presentation. Adults like to have fun, too!

Julie
Message: Posted by: Sealegs (Jun 19, 2018 06:38AM)
Dear Julie,

Saying this trick plays well for adults carries the same weight as me saying this trick doesn’t play well for adults so neither statement on its own is particularly useful or meaningful.

While I agree with you that presentation can make or break how a trick is received I find it pertinent that the video being used to sell a version of this trick and which one might surmise is showing it in its best light, shows it eliciting zero response from the spectator. This is a reaction that compares favourably with all the presentations I have seen of this trick.

However I am genuinely delighted for you if your presentation is the exception to this.😎
Message: Posted by: Julie (Jun 19, 2018 05:44PM)
[quote]On Jun 19, 2018, Sealegs wrote:
Dear Julie,

Saying this trick plays well for adults carries the same weight as me saying this trick doesn’t play well for adults so neither statement on its own is particularly useful or meaningful...

_________________________________________________

Well, my friend, I have no reason to tell you something that is not true. If you have difficulty connecting with an adult audience that situation may be remedied through diligence and real world exposure.

I will share with you that we do not use a loop in the ribbon. Depending upon the performing situation, there will be either a binder clip or (for adult audiences) an alligator clip (with an appropriate "adult" comment which I will not share with you).

That is the TRUTH :)
Message: Posted by: Sealegs (Jun 23, 2018 11:13AM)
Until you pointed it out It hadn’t even occurred to me that there might be a reason why I’m failing, with a trick I don’t perform, to connect with the (non-existent) audience that I’m not performing it to.

Even more bizarre is the remedy to this Lewis Carroll like situation lies in ‘real world exposure’.

Thanks Julie, that was a hilarious post 😆
Message: Posted by: acortest (Nov 7, 2019 09:16PM)
New Tenyo effect for 2020 coming out called ‘Miracle Fishing’

https://youtu.be/sQu_GNNp7Bk
Message: Posted by: Zauberman (Nov 15, 2019 04:51PM)
In 'The Award-Winning Rope Magic of Francis Tabary'...... there is a trick called The Card Sword with a Rope. (p. 254-260)

It is literally throwing the deck up in the air and lassooing the selected signed card with a rope, right out of the cards raining down. No gimmicks, just some sleight of hand, structuring and showmanship.

Well worth your consideration. Plays big and much more spectacular.

Then you follow up with a game of 51 card pick-up :-)
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Nov 21, 2019 12:59AM)
The routine plays best if the magician first demonstrates his ability to form a one handed loop in the rope. Rich Marotta has used this effect for many years in the Comedy Club circuit. It can be very strong and funny.