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Topic: What you'd like to see in a magician's deck
Message: Posted by: Terrible Wizard (Oct 4, 2015 08:40AM)
What features would you like 'built-in' to a deck for use as a magician's tool?

Off the top of my head, I'd plumb for:

1) Great card stock and finish, obviously - for handling
2) An elegant and unsuspicious all over border less back design (to better enable false deals etc)
3) For the back design to be subtlety one way
4) For subtle one way fronts also
5) Standard pip designs for non-court cards
6) Extra large and nicely designed Ace pips; clear and well designed Ace of Spades (but without writing)
7) Updated, but still recognisable, court card imagery
8) Hidden card revelation built into the Queen of Spades imagery
9) Well hidden, but easy reading, back marking on the King of Diamonds


The following extras and gaffs to come as standard with the deck, but with many other gaff cards and trick decks available in the same design:

I) Two superbly illustrated, identical but opposite facing full colour Jokers (great for sandwhich effects)
II) Two indifferent locator cards (one sh**t, one th**k)
III) A double-backer
IV) A Queen of Hearts with alternate coloured back
V) A subtly marked, 3 and a Half of Clubs gaff card (same back)


There are a number of features I'd also like to see in the card case:

A) tougher, thicker card so the box lasts longer; also slightly wider so as to be able to hold a few more than 54 cards
B) a slightly deeper thumb slot and longer top flap (for retaining or drawing out cards from closed box more easily)
C) a built-in card revelation (or two)
D) a hidden mnemonic for a stack
E) if possible, a well disguised index window (this might not be realistic)
F) if possible, a built in shiner utility
G) if possible, a built in 'retention' flap, false section, or device so as better be able to leave card(s) hidden in the case
Message: Posted by: Terrible Wizard (Oct 11, 2015 08:19AM)
Some other ideas:

A prediction card - with space to add in your prediction (like the heretic cards)
Some subtle symbolic additions to the court cards for reading/fortune telling (like Kadar)
Possibly some tarot, zener or psy card style extra cards with the same back, style, finish for mentalism/bizarre routines
Message: Posted by: Terrible Wizard (Oct 11, 2015 03:33PM)
Another idea: in the embossed case have a removable poker chip or coin (is this practicable?)
Message: Posted by: ATL (Dec 20, 2015 11:15AM)
Why is double-backer obvious, but blank card isn't? I'd prefer to have one blank with normal back, one blank with alternate back(same as alt queen) and one double blank.

Also this might be just me, but for me it's huge plus if you can get blank deck with same back design.

TL;DR: I like blanks..
Message: Posted by: RDeNatale (Jun 5, 2016 07:30PM)
I also like traditionally cut decks.
Message: Posted by: lukkudlek (Jul 14, 2016 12:36PM)
I think it could be great! Which dealer(s) do you consider releasing this at?
Message: Posted by: lukkudlek (Jul 22, 2016 03:04PM)
Oh sorry, I didn't got it right :D
Message: Posted by: Zee (Jul 26, 2016 09:23PM)
My ideal deck is.. not too flashy yet still very different from bikes or any other decks sold in grocery stores(but have to keep it classy). Thin boarder, so fan looks good. Does not get soft after a few hours of torture(Ugh Tally-ho). Has a double back and a blank face and jokers have to have some sort of creature's face(human or animal. Doesn't matter). Oh, it has toi have a seal too. If possible, one duplicate card would be generous haha

And my box has to be as thin as possible because I usually carry no more than 54 cards. I want the box to fit in my clip :P
Message: Posted by: JassTan (Nov 11, 2016 01:51AM)
Smooth edges
Stock is silky for fans also flexible for springing
Best if it can be some what water resistance even water proof.
A traditional design with subtle marking system.

Honestly, If there is a plastic deck can fan like normal bicycle deck, I going stock up a big bunch it.
Message: Posted by: ringmaster (Nov 28, 2016 09:23AM)
Thinner card stock,like the kind in use before WWII when many classic card books were written.
Message: Posted by: mrdude42 (Nov 29, 2016 09:39AM)
I'm working on a deck of my own and these are all really great ideas. Once I have the design down I'll probably post some images for critique :)
Message: Posted by: Micheal (Dec 10, 2016 12:47AM)
I would like a deck that have well disguise easily to read marks, smooth finish, easy to spring.
WIth very fancy Ace of spades maybe metallic ink.
Message: Posted by: Googoomafint11 (Feb 10, 2017 03:08AM)
How about having the inside of the box printed with a card for a reveal or to 'rub' a card into the box, say using a blank card
Message: Posted by: Allyc4t (Jun 10, 2017 09:41PM)
Interestingly enough, I actually like subtly custom pips, notably those of Contraband by T11, and Memento Mori by MM
Message: Posted by: manananmaclir (Jul 8, 2017 08:25AM)
Terrible, after all these contradictory requests and requirements, do you think you'll actually try to design a deck?
Message: Posted by: ultrawise (Jul 26, 2017 05:05AM)
You imagination is cool but I doubt anyone who can make this deck. I think it's very difficult job, aha.
Message: Posted by: Alex Day (Aug 17, 2018 07:32PM)
An invisasvencheek.
Message: Posted by: edhagins (Aug 31, 2018 06:54PM)
Has anyone ever made a deck that was cut from both sides so that the edges were pointed. In this manner a push together of two halfs would result in a FARO shuffle?
Message: Posted by: kardistic (Dec 26, 2018 08:13AM)
I never heard anything of that. It depends on the printing company and not sure if is even possible.
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Apr 17, 2019 02:12PM)
I'd like a re-release of New Fan backs with the old style bicycle court cards (used in the 1950's and 60's). It would be released in a red and a blue back.

A double backer is a must.

If you go the USPCC route then a 56 card deck is the economical route. So one more gaff card would be either a red/blue DB in one deck and a blank face in the other.

I'd want these to be very affordable so it would be regular tuck cases and the standard USPCC card stock.

If I had the time I'd try to learn how to create a kickstarter campaign and produce the decks -- but maybe my taste is too limited to attract enough backers!
Message: Posted by: judeh (Apr 27, 2019 08:48PM)
These are all really good ideas. Are there any decks that come close to incorporating many of these?