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Topic: Moving a table with hidden depths - help please
Message: Posted by: RedHatMagic (Nov 27, 2015 06:15PM)
Hello,

I was thinking of creating a table, apparently thin but with a large hidden chamber by using a m*****. Is it possible to carry such a beast on and off a stage in a parlour setting (or stage) without the deception being noticed?

Does anyone already create such a table and if so what is it called?

thank you for your help,

Danny
Message: Posted by: RedHatMagic (Nov 27, 2015 06:49PM)
Sorry I realised that what I wanted won't work this way. Can anyone suggest a table which looks thin at the front, has no fringing (is looks like a normal table) but can contain bulky items within it and where the performers legs can still be seen when standing behind the table?

Many thanks,

Danny
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Nov 27, 2015 08:49PM)
I was taught NOT to stand BEHIND a table.

Anything between the performer and the spectators, tends to create a psychological barrier between the performer and the spectators.
Message: Posted by: RedHatMagic (Nov 28, 2015 12:43AM)
Fair point, There are examples though....like levitations
Message: Posted by: jay leslie (Nov 28, 2015 12:43AM)
I've been working on a 4 foot wide table like that for multiplying bottles. (Ideas and more ideas but nothing concrete) you need a wide (but not deep) table like that so all the bottles play out.

So how would you do multiplying bottles without standing behind a table?
Message: Posted by: john wills (Nov 28, 2015 02:44AM)
In Technique and Understanding Jim Steinmeyer shows the perfect table you're looking for.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Nov 28, 2015 09:46AM)
Paul Osborne published in Genii Magazine an elevator table for one bottle. I always wanted to build it, but never got around to it.

RedHatMagic, you ask a very difficult, you ask for a table that has no deception. That is like asking is their a car without any kind of engine. Come on, give a little, here.

Go back to the 1940's, they made wood kitchen tables (usually painted white), now we call them accent tables. They had 4 legs, and supporting wood frame under the top to hold it down and the legs firmly attached. Now there is all the room you need for any kind of hiding place. It is only a beast if you make it one.

You don't mention what kind of use you are envisioning, so it is hard to help.

Just make so you can take it apart for traveling.
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Nov 30, 2015 04:13AM)
[quote]On Nov 28, 2015, jay leslie wrote:
I've been working on a 4 foot wide table like that for multiplying bottles. (Ideas and more ideas but nothing concrete) you need a wide (but not deep) table like that so all the bottles play out.

So how would you do multiplying bottles without standing behind a table? [/quote]

Hi Jay!

The "XXXing" bottles would be the "exception that proves the rule"!
Message: Posted by: jay leslie (Nov 30, 2015 04:34AM)
And the the extra two are 5 inches in diameter
That's hard to hide in a table like that, but I'll do it. .
Message: Posted by: RedHatMagic (Dec 1, 2015 05:59PM)
I think Paul rohmanys briefcase illusion may be the answer
Message: Posted by: bigfoot (Dec 6, 2015 10:24AM)
[quote]On Nov 27, 2015, Dick Oslund wrote:
I was taught NOT to stand BEHIND a table.

Anything between the performer and the spectators, tends to create a psychological barrier between the performer and the spectators. [/quote]

So wouldn't you make exceptions for routines where there is little choice ie cups and balls, multiplying bottles, etc. ?
I guess I am assuming that you are referring to small side tables?
Message: Posted by: garywest (Dec 7, 2015 05:38PM)
Owen Redwine had a beautiful table for sale on his website... Illusions4sale.com... But don't go there... It's not up and running now. The table was a full size dining room table that looked very thin from the front but was actually thick enough to contain an assistant. If this is what you are looking for, get in touch with him through Facebook and he can build or sell you a top quality piece.
Message: Posted by: MagicSA (Jan 17, 2016 01:03AM)
In Steinmeyer's Technique and Understanding there is such an optical table. He has two versions in th book. Quite complex, but well worth the trouble.