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Topic: Need the name of a drawing prediction effect 😬
Message: Posted by: snorre89 (Jul 6, 2016 02:23PM)
Hi guys

I am performing an effect I did a while ago this weekend, but I can't remember the name of it to find the explanation. I don't remember the method fully. The effect is a drawing prediction in three stages, where one spectator thinks of a place he likes to visit for example, and writes it down on a piece of paper, then another person thinks of a person they admire and writes it down on a piece of paper. You predict these places/persons/etc and finally a spectator makes a drawing on a small note and finally you copy it on a large drawing pad together with the spectator. I have bought the effect, but I can't seem to find it unfortunately. If anyone knows which effect this is, I would be very grateful for the name!

Thanks in advance

Ps I hope I didn't break the guidelines, I don't think I mentioned the method at all. Thanks :)
Message: Posted by: E.E. (Jul 6, 2016 02:38PM)
It's funny how you registered 7 years ago but this is your first post at all?
...Maybe an introduction would be necessary? who are you? are you a mentalist? a magician? by the question you are asking it's apparent you are a beginner, at least in the mentalism field.
Message: Posted by: snorre89 (Jul 6, 2016 04:47PM)
Yes, an introduction could be helpful. I did a lot of card magic between 2007 and 2011, mostly taught by books and dvds and some live courses. Somehow the time to practice wasn't there (or I didn't make space for it) and I stopped searching for new effects. However I kept the fascination for card magic in particular but also watched a great deal of mentalism on TV shows, more as a regular entertainment consumer. Even though I am no mentalist and I do not claim so either, I have incorporated a bit of mystique in my card magic with success. I stumbled over the effect mentioned above two years ago, and had the perfect venue to perform it in a few weeks after. Then I am doing a magic show soon, and I think it would fit better at this very occasion than a card routine. I hope I clarified a bit with this post, please ask in case of further questions.

The reason why this is my first post is simply that I made an account many years ago, and I suddenly remembered this place being a good forum. I tried the search forum without success, which is why I wrote a post.
Message: Posted by: Alexxander (Jul 6, 2016 04:58PM)
So let me get this straight - you want to perform an effect in a few days... and you don't know the method for it?

Seriously, perform something you know in and out... you'll be doing yourself and all of us a favour.

Then, if you want to start performing mentalism - start by studying the classics... You can find Bob Cassidy's 39 steps for free on the internet to get you started.
Message: Posted by: John C (Jul 7, 2016 08:48AM)
So you performed this a while ago and want to perform it again but forgot how. Think about how you did it a while ago and forget about remembering the name of it.

Weak post my friend, very weak. Do some reflection and come back.
Message: Posted by: jaizon (Jul 7, 2016 09:28AM)
What a bunch of sanctimonious judgmental ***holes. FFS. Way to help someone out.
Message: Posted by: DutchFrank (Jul 7, 2016 09:38AM)
For what it's worth: it sounds like a Bob Cassidy effect to me....
Message: Posted by: Tim Cavendish (Jul 7, 2016 10:07AM)
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, jaizon wrote:
What a bunch of sanctimonious judgmental ***holes. FFS. Way to help someone out. [/quote]
Sometimes a performer (and mentalism as well) is best served by [b]not[/b] enabling someone to perform with inadequate preparation.
Message: Posted by: John C (Jul 7, 2016 10:18AM)
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, Tim Cavendish wrote:
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, jaizon wrote:
What a bunch of sanctimonious judgmental ***holes. FFS. Way to help someone out. [/quote]
Sometimes a performer (and mentalism as well) is best served by [b]not[/b] enabling someone to perform with inadequate preparation. [/quote]


agreed. What this user asked did not in any way indicate he has any knowledge in the art and is just trying to find something he saw in a video. Sorry for being so sanctimonious. and sorry for being an *** .
Message: Posted by: jaizon (Jul 7, 2016 04:00PM)
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, John C wrote:
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, Tim Cavendish wrote:
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, jaizon wrote:
What a bunch of sanctimonious judgmental ***holes. FFS. Way to help someone out. [/quote]
Sometimes a performer (and mentalism as well) is best served by [b]not[/b] enabling someone to perform with inadequate preparation. [/quote]


agreed. What this user asked did not in any way indicate he has any knowledge in the art and is just trying to find something he saw in a video. Sorry for being so sanctimonious. and sorry for being an *** . [/quote]


No worries. I'm sure you can't help it. ;)
Message: Posted by: snorre89 (Jul 7, 2016 04:24PM)
Great with some engagement here, guys! And fast replies. Thanks to the (only) post that actually answered my question. I found just what I needed. It was indeed the Bob Cassidy effect I was thinking of. I'll try not to screw up, and even if I do, it's not the end of the world, is it?
Message: Posted by: John C (Jul 7, 2016 05:27PM)
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, jaizon wrote:
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, John C wrote:
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, Tim Cavendish wrote:
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, jaizon wrote:
What a bunch of sanctimonious judgmental ***holes. FFS. Way to help someone out. [/quote]
Sometimes a performer (and mentalism as well) is best served by [b]not[/b] enabling someone to perform with inadequate preparation. [/quote]


agreed. What this user asked did not in any way indicate he has any knowledge in the art and is just trying to find something he saw in a video. Sorry for being so sanctimonious. and sorry for being an *** . [/quote]


No worries. I'm sure you can't help it. ;) [/quote]

hey, wait a minute..... I'm not sure if that was a compliment or not. If it was, thanks.
Message: Posted by: John C (Jul 7, 2016 05:30PM)
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, snorre89 wrote:
Great with some engagement here, guys! And fast replies. Thanks to the (only) post that actually answered my question. I found just what I needed. It was indeed the Bob Cassidy effect I was thinking of. I'll try not to screw up, and even if I do, it's not the end of the world, is it? [/quote]


Actually not the end of the world but you shouldn't go into it with that attitude.

I'd rather, and I'm sure Cassidy would rather hear...

Well, I'll practice it enough to give it the respect it deserves. If I find that the gig is close and I don't feel I'm ready I'll just do something else.

J
Message: Posted by: E.E. (Jul 7, 2016 08:57PM)
This particular time, I agree with John. Not that I ever disagree with him :eek:
Message: Posted by: Race Blakhart (Jul 8, 2016 02:56AM)
Snorre89, think about it this way. Ignore the other reasons these guys are saying to practice the routine. Not because they aren't important reasons; they are.

But to put it simply, do it for yourself.

If you go out and try to pull something off that you aren't going to do justice on, how do you think that is going to make you look? You won't get any more gigs when people can tell you're not prepared. And trust me, they will be able to tell. I know this from personal experience, as I myself am still a freshman to the field of mentalism.

If you have any respect for yourself and your art, you will make sure you have it down pat long before performing it. Otherwise, it'll just look like a poor demonstration done by an amature. Again, I know from personal experience.

The routine you speak of is great fun to perform, when you are 100% confident in what you have to do. But if you aren't...watch out!
Message: Posted by: Alan Wheeler (Jul 8, 2016 05:18PM)
Wow. Bob's 4DT is not something I would pick up for a quick turnaround (practice to performance in two weeks). Being familiar with cards, I could see maybe working up a dramatic "Do As I Do" or even Nyman's "Dead of Night."
Message: Posted by: John C (Jul 8, 2016 10:20PM)
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, E.E. wrote:
This particular time, I agree with John. Not that I ever disagree with him :eek: [/quote]


I know, I am very disagreeable. Thanks E. ;)

J
Message: Posted by: John C (Jul 8, 2016 10:23PM)
[quote]On Jul 8, 2016, Race Blakhart wrote:
Snorre89, think about it this way. Ignore the other reasons these guys are saying to practice the routine. Not because they aren't important reasons; they are.

But to put it simply, do it for yourself.

If you go out and try to pull something off that you aren't going to do justice on, how do you think that is going to make you look? You won't get any more gigs when people can tell you're not prepared. And trust me, they will be able to tell. I know this from personal experience, as I myself am still a freshman to the field of mentalism.

If you have any respect for yourself and your art, you will make sure you have it down pat long before performing it. Otherwise, it'll just look like a poor demonstration done by an amature. Again, I know from personal experience.

The routine you speak of is great fun to perform, when you are 100% confident in what you have to do. But if you aren't...watch out! [/quote]

Yes exactly. One needs to become familiar with the individual fundamental aspects of something like this. Only then will you be able to put them altogether successfully.
Message: Posted by: E.E. (Jul 8, 2016 11:14PM)
[quote]On Jul 8, 2016, John C wrote:
[quote]On Jul 7, 2016, E.E. wrote:
This particular time, I agree with John. Not that I ever disagree with him :eek: [/quote]


I know, I am very disagreeable. Thanks E. ;)

J [/quote]

I disagree.
Message: Posted by: KiKi (Jul 9, 2016 04:02AM)
Snorre, think of it as playing an instrument and you want to present a song, standing alone in front of an audience.
Would you perform the song if you didnīt give the time to practice until you can play it well?
In mentalism itīs not about the mechanics and how itīs done, itīs about presentation, logical disconnection and ... presentation!
Otherwise itīs not more than a logic puzzle!
Message: Posted by: Axel (Jul 9, 2016 06:56AM)
Seems like snorre got what he came for.
See him in seven years...
Message: Posted by: Race Blakhart (Jul 9, 2016 08:36AM)
[quote]On Jul 9, 2016, Axel wrote:
Seems like snorre got what he came for.
See him in seven years... [/quote]
Took the words right out of my mouth. It's funny how he replied until his memory was refreshed.

Oh well, it's a page full of great advice/information for anyone who actually wants to learn the reality of the situation.
Message: Posted by: John C (Jul 9, 2016 01:09PM)
Yes. I hope WE are all happy with ourselves.

;) Of course.

J