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Topic: John George's Perfect ESP
Message: Posted by: shakuni (Aug 6, 2016 12:08AM)
Where can I find John George's Perfect ESP? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: George Hunter (Aug 6, 2016 12:56PM)
An effect with that title is demonstrated and taught on the first of Nardi's "Unexpected" dvd's. I do not recall whether the effect was attributed to John George or anyone else.

George
Message: Posted by: Waters. (Aug 6, 2016 01:47PM)
I am not sure, but I think these are different effects/methods.
Message: Posted by: rosariorose9 (Nov 21, 2017 11:58AM)
Here 'tis: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/9223
Message: Posted by: Ben Blau (Nov 21, 2017 12:39PM)
Without naming names, I just came across a post on Facebook by a different mentalist who claims that he not only invented this, but actually released it (through Lybrary) several years ago. I have no further information, other than the fact that this was stated.
Message: Posted by: Looch (Nov 21, 2017 03:34PM)
Looking at that video, it looks like a Dave Humphires effect from Submodalities. I think it was called 'Jazz Mentalism' or something similar.
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Nov 21, 2017 04:38PM)
[quote]On Nov 21, 2017, Looch wrote:
Looking at that video, it looks like a Dave Humphires effect from Submodalities. I think it was called 'Jazz Mentalism' or something similar. [/quote]

It is a variation, although independent conceived, of Hen Fetsch's Symbologic, the handling is a little different as it the something. I like this handling, it seems very fair, but prefer Symbologic for the ease of the ending.

He gives credit to those who came before him, he learned of them via Max Maven and discusses this at the beginning of the video.
Message: Posted by: Waters. (Nov 21, 2017 05:39PM)
[quote]On Nov 21, 2017, Tony Iacoviello wrote:
[quote]On Nov 21, 2017, Looch wrote:
Looking at that video, it looks like a Dave Humphires effect from Submodalities. I think it was called 'Jazz Mentalism' or something similar. [/quote]

It is a variation, although independent conceived, of Hen Fetsch's Symbologic, the handling is a little different as it the something. I like this handling, it seems very fair, but prefer Symbologic for the ease of the ending.

He gives credit to those who came before him, he learned of them via Max Maven and discusses this at the beginning of the video. [/quote]


Tony: Thanks for this. This is what I thought. I appreciate you commenting.

Looch: Dave’s approaches perfection. It is certainly in rarified air, along with your Zener routine.
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Nov 21, 2017 05:56PM)
I've really enjoyed using Jazz Mentalism (with a turnover pass instead of the BD) and I'll probably continue to use it, however Beyond Perfect ESP is a welcome alternative. It makes the ending even cleaner - no displacement, albeit with a small tradeoff.

It's definitely worth having in the arsenal, especially for people who may have seen one of the other handlings.
Message: Posted by: ddyment (Nov 21, 2017 07:04PM)
I have for more than a decade performed the Spelmann/Nardi "Perfect ESP", followed by my own "Bob's Your Uncle"
(from [url=https://www.deceptionary.com/mindsights.html][i]Mindsights[/i][/url]). Both effects have ultra-clean handlings, use only ten ungaffed Zener cards, and are fully impromptu.

I perform this in three phases: "Perfect ESP", in which I demonstrate that I can match all the symbols, "Bob's Your Uncle", in which the participant achieves the same goal, and a repeat of "Bob's Your Uncle" with the cards face down, with the participant successfully matching the symbols yet again.
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Nov 22, 2017 06:09AM)
... http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=622943&forum=82&23&start=20#2 ... ;) Jan
Message: Posted by: ed wood (Nov 22, 2017 10:11AM)
So does this method dispense of the bottom deal?
I've always struggled with this aspect of Jazz mentalism.
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Nov 22, 2017 03:34PM)
Yes (both :) )! Jan
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Nov 22, 2017 04:55PM)
That's a nice variation too, thanks Jan.
I've been using that right/left thing for the last two cards for a while, I think I learned it from the Card Shark DVD?

I think it works great for Beyond Perfect ESP too, for the cases where there's a discrepancy on the last two cards. After they are dealt, you and the participant both pick up the top two cards, etc.
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Nov 25, 2017 07:09PM)
[quote]On Nov 21, 2017, Ben Blau wrote:
Without naming names, I just came across a post on Facebook by a different mentalist who claims that he not only invented this, but actually released it (through Lybrary) several years ago. I have no further information, other than the fact that this was stated

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Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Nov 25, 2017 07:10PM)
[quote]On Nov 22, 2017, JanForster wrote:
Yes (both :) )! Jan [/quote]

Your ESP routine is wonderful! I remember learning this last year! It's amazing!
Jan forster for another penguin lecture!!