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Topic: Svengali Notebook by Alan Wong
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Aug 20, 2016 01:57AM)
New in stock and ready to ship we have these Svengali Notebooks from Alan Wong.

I like these as they are like a small book with cover front and back which will protect the pad when in use going in and out of your pocket.

Check them out here http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/saturn-magic-shop/47449[1].html
Message: Posted by: Karl M (Aug 20, 2016 02:29AM)
Definitely getting some of them,they are reallycheap compared to the others on the market
Message: Posted by: EZrhythm (Aug 20, 2016 02:55AM)
...Aaaaaand HERE THEY ARE! :applause:



...Hey Mark, there's a typo on the page- "Note only the notebook is supplies along with a..."
Message: Posted by: magicman29 (Aug 20, 2016 04:51AM)
Is this not the same as "something" paul brook released a few years back?

Kieran
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Aug 20, 2016 10:30AM)
[quote]On Aug 20, 2016, EZrhythm wrote:
...Aaaaaand HERE THEY ARE! :applause:



...Hey Mark, there's a typo on the page- "Note only the notebook is supplies along with a..." [/quote]

Good spot! thanks
Message: Posted by: sbays (Aug 20, 2016 02:00PM)
I got a chance to see one of these Alan Wong pads yesterday. I have nothing against Alan. In fact I even taught him an effect he saw me do a while back and I think he is a very nice guy. But I really did not like this pad. From what I observed , the handling of the pad is counter intuitive. The cuts were not nearly as precise as the Svenpad. I also much prefer the handling of the Svenpad.

Yes we all know the idea of a Svengali type pad has been around for ages. I had made plenty of them up long before the Svenpad came along. But it was Brett who had the idea to get these made this way and created a precision tool for us to use. But then as usual others said, "Hey great idea" and they jump on the bandwagon. As far as price goes, having had to sit down and make these up myself handcutting them, I'm happy to pay the asking price for a svenpad. Not too expensive to me. My time is more valuable. And I'm getting quality product.

I paid full price for my Svenpads. None were given to me. I do not know Brett on a personal level. Never met the man. But he brought something of value to the community. And he did it first. So when I need one of these pads he will get my business. I just wanted to share my honest thoughts on the matter.
Message: Posted by: Karl M (Aug 20, 2016 03:35PM)
I bought some Sven pads in Blackpool from Mike Murrey and Im going to buy this one,when I get it ill do a honest side by side comparison of it
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Aug 20, 2016 03:38PM)
These look stapled along the spine?! more chance of them warping in the medium term if so...meaning they'll lose their 'ability'...
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 20, 2016 04:01PM)
I like the idea of a side opening notebook more than a pad, personally.
Not sure what you're seeing Iain but I can't see any staples. I was thinking it looked bound. But I can't really tell from the picture. That'd make a difference.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Aug 20, 2016 04:27PM)
According to the website "They are very good quality made by Alan Wong with a plain black front and back cover and measure around 140mm high by 110mm wide, they are bound like a book down the long edge and have 100 pages in each book making 50 double Svengali pages."

I like side openers too - I just want to see the back-side of the book.... dear Saturn UK, any chance you can post a pic of the front and back covers? I am hoping they look identical :)
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Aug 20, 2016 05:31PM)
Ah! in the saturn magic image, the picture is much more degraded...it looked like there was indentions down the side, but it must have been the rippled/textured cover...

they look good! better pictures here...
http://www.propdog.co.uk/recent-additions/Svengali-Sven-Pad
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 20, 2016 06:25PM)
Now see, [i]That's[/i] a great idea. I always thought the pads seemed odd to have filled up with writing. When I use a pad in real life, I tear of pieces after I write on them. But a notebook makes much more sense to be filled with writing or images.
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Aug 20, 2016 06:31PM)
There's a big downfall to all the sv*ngli pads out though, and its why its always put me off buying them...

these Wong ones look pretty decent...if I didn't cut my own and have those other ones to use up, I might give 'em a whirl...but I only use them for one minor routine in a lead up to something else, so not worth it for me...
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Aug 20, 2016 08:02PM)
I like it - these one can force 6 things easy
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Aug 20, 2016 08:14PM)
[quote]On Aug 20, 2016, IAIN wrote:
There's a big downfall to all the sv*ngli pads out though, and its why its always put me off buying them...

these Wong ones look pretty decent...if I didn't cut my own and have those other ones to use up, I might give 'em a whirl...but I only use them for one minor routine in a lead up to something else, so not worth it for me... [/quote]


What's the big down fall Iain on these type of pads ? Audience management is the only one I can possibly think of but that is very easily dealt with IMO but yours might not be that so I am interested to know your downside with this age old principle as it has sure stood the test of time ?🙂
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Aug 20, 2016 08:19PM)
You know what, I was gonna say...but I've been accused of all sorts recently, unnecessarily so...so I wont bother :)

I did try to delete the comment but didn't get there in time
Message: Posted by: Last Laugh (Aug 20, 2016 10:37PM)
Lol, apparently posting opinions about Svengali pads of any sort is dangerous....
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Aug 21, 2016 08:21AM)
[quote]On Aug 20, 2016, sbays wrote:
I got a chance to see one of these Alan Wong pads yesterday. I have nothing against Alan. In fact I even taught him an effect he saw me do a while back and I think he is a very nice guy. But I really did not like this pad. From what I observed , the handling of the pad is counter intuitive. The cuts were not nearly as precise as the Svenpad. I also much prefer the handling of the Svenpad.

Yes we all know the idea of a Svengali type pad has been around for ages. I had made plenty of them up long before the Svenpad came along. But it was Brett who had the idea to get these made this way and created a precision tool for us to use. But then as usual others said, "Hey great idea" and they jump on the bandwagon. As far as price goes, having had to sit down and make these up myself handcutting them, I'm happy to pay the asking price for a svenpad. Not too expensive to me. My time is more valuable. And I'm getting quality product.

I paid full price for my Svenpads. None were given to me. I do not know Brett on a personal level. Never met the man. But he brought something of value to the community. And he did it first. So when I need one of these pads he will get my business. I just wanted to share my honest thoughts on the matter. [/quote]

So, are these available in the US also? Can't see them on any website except propdog and Saturn.
Message: Posted by: Karl M (Aug 21, 2016 08:54AM)
Suspcious
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Aug 21, 2016 09:29AM)
Me too, Karl. I think he's telling Porkies.
Message: Posted by: JackMagic (Aug 21, 2016 09:39AM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2016, pegasus wrote:
Me too, Karl. I think he's telling Porkies. [/quote]

Strange wonder if he is on the payroll of the more expensive ones

Even Murphy's don't list them
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Aug 21, 2016 11:09AM)
They sold them at magic live.
Message: Posted by: JackMagic (Aug 21, 2016 12:11PM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2016, saysold1 wrote:
They sold them at magic live. [/quote]

Funny that

[quote]On Aug 16, 2016, saysold1 wrote:
ProMystic has a wonderful new goodie on their web site as of today which was introduced at Magic Live (wasn't there though unfortunately). [/quote]

He was not at Magic Live but now expert in what dealers was selling ( Alan Wong not even listed in the dealers list)

Strange !
Message: Posted by: Karl M (Aug 21, 2016 12:58PM)
Very suspicous
Message: Posted by: The great Gumbini (Aug 21, 2016 01:30PM)
I heard they were selling them at Magic live too. That's odd if they were not sold there then. But then again who knows? I honestly like the note pad version a lot. They are well made and look so so sooooooo normal. With that said I would not mind a notebook style as maybe a back up. The one thing I learned in my years being a mentalist is when using props make them as natural and ordinary looking as you can. Now what may seem natural or ordinary to some may not seem natural to others. So its nice to have a choice. As far as pricing goes...like water it will always find its own level. The market place is when people will either buy something or not. I applaud both creators for bring their products to market. It is now up to us to make both of these items appear as natural and ordinary as we can and create the mental pieces we are hoping to.

Good magic to all,


Eric
Message: Posted by: sbays (Aug 21, 2016 03:07PM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2016, Karl M wrote:
Suspcious [/quote]

Lol. Yes they are available in the US. The magic apple in LA has them as we speak.
Message: Posted by: Weddingmagician (Aug 22, 2016 05:06PM)
How many 'notebooks' do you receive for £10.99 UK?
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Aug 25, 2016 08:57AM)
[quote]On Aug 22, 2016, Weddingmagician wrote:
How many 'notebooks' do you receive for £10.99 UK? [/quote]

You get one book which is a great saving on other versions available, plus the pad/ book is protected by the black front and back cover.

The quality on these is very good and will do the job required.

The way the book is made and its size mean you can handle the book as a book with the edged bound or with the binding across the top.

We only have a few left which is no surprise at the price!

The wholesaler has no more but I'm sure they will be restocking ASAP.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Aug 25, 2016 09:36AM)
[quote]On Aug 21, 2016, Karl M wrote:
Very suspicous [/quote]

What is suspicious?...
Message: Posted by: paw (Aug 25, 2016 09:45AM)
Hey Guys –

When these came into Murphy’s we completely sold out in under an hour. Amazing...
There are more Svengali Notebooks on the way right now. The quality and look of the pad is great.

The front and back covers of the pad are identical. We have tested them out here and they work perfectly.
If you are familiar with Alan’s products, you know the great quality of magic he produces.

The price is very fair as well.
Please contact your favorite dealer for more Information on Alan Wong’s Svengali Notebook.

Patrick
Message: Posted by: Karl M (Aug 25, 2016 03:32PM)
Got mine ones today they are top qulaity and just as good as the sven pads what I got in blackpool but much less in price so happy here
Message: Posted by: Weddingmagician (Aug 26, 2016 09:01AM)
The Force Pads are still better value at £16.99 for two!!
Message: Posted by: RNK (Aug 26, 2016 09:16AM)
[quote]On Aug 25, 2016, Karl M wrote:
Got mine ones today they are top qulaity and just as good as the sven pads what I got in blackpool but much less in price so happy here [/quote]

Hi Karl. Whose Sven pads did you buy at Blackpool?
Message: Posted by: John C (Aug 26, 2016 09:19AM)
[quote]On Aug 25, 2016, Karl M wrote:
Got mine ones today they are top qulaity and just as good as the sven pads what I got in blackpool but much less in price so happy here [/quote]

BUT WAIT! Did they slash one payment but charge separate shipping and handling?

HAHA
Message: Posted by: BillyBear (Aug 26, 2016 09:29AM)
Got mine yesterday - great quality and price. Don't be put off from buying because of some of the comments on this thread. Totally unjustified imho
Message: Posted by: Karl M (Aug 26, 2016 10:04AM)
[quote]On Aug 26, 2016, RNK wrote:
[quote]On Aug 25, 2016, Karl M wrote:
Got mine ones today they are top qulaity and just as good as the sven pads what I got in blackpool but much less in price so happy here [/quote]

Hi Karl. Whose Sven pads did you buy at Blackpool? [/quote]
I bought it off Michael Murray so I think it is the Brett Barry ones
Message: Posted by: btwigg (Sep 8, 2016 06:50PM)
This was back in stock today over at penguin and by the time I went to grab on it was gone. Looks like I have to wait until October and this time be super fast with that checkout finger.
Message: Posted by: Rudy Sanchez (Sep 8, 2016 07:16PM)
Alan Wongs notebook is excellent!
Message: Posted by: BrainMagos (Sep 14, 2016 12:02PM)
Who carries these other than Penguin? They definately look better than SvenPads!
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Sep 14, 2016 03:30PM)
[quote]On Sep 14, 2016, BrainMagos wrote:
Who carries these other than Penguin? They definately look better than SvenPads! [/quote]

We do : http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/new-magic/47449[1].html
Message: Posted by: BrainMagos (Sep 14, 2016 10:04PM)
In the USA I mean...
Message: Posted by: btwigg (Oct 9, 2016 12:02AM)
These are back in stock at Penguin as of today.
Message: Posted by: Karl M (Oct 9, 2016 03:45AM)
[quote]On Sep 14, 2016, BrainMagos wrote:
Who carries these other than Penguin? They definately look better than SvenPads! [/quote]
I've got both them and Alan's are better and cheaper than Sven svenpad ones so that's what Ines I recomend to get
Message: Posted by: Amirá (Feb 9, 2017 10:32AM)
Now you can get all Alan´s pads at http://www.alanwongmagic.com/ with FREE shipping!

[img]https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V1_o_HtIsyo/WJyYGd60iTI/AAAAAAAAAGc/sil7QHHAUpcvprZpI5IsZdoo8IbA7S13wCEw/s320/SvenPad.png[/img]


They are a great addition to anyone toolkit and the best quality/price balance available.