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Topic: Thimbles
Message: Posted by: Skeptic (Mar 22, 2004 10:31AM)
So does anyone in here do any thimble work? Any recommendations for video or books that go into the details of doing it?

I have a set of thimbles and would like to learn to use them. They seem to be an under appreciated prop.
Message: Posted by: davidmagic (Mar 22, 2004 11:21AM)
Absolutely-Tops and Abbotts have some good beginner books. Ganson Close Up and Geoffrey Buckingham's Its Easier Than You Think series (OOP) are good sources. Steve Beam's Boook, The Magic of Joe Mogar is all thimbles and is the David Roth's CoinMagic of Thimbles. If you are a DVD learner-get Jeff McBride's World Class Manipulation series 9set of 3). By the time you learn all on that tape, you will be ready to construct a routine. What kind of thimbles do you have-that will have some impact on what kind of routine you want to do.
David Lewis
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Mar 22, 2004 05:44PM)
John Carney's Secrets book has a routine.
His up close and far away video has a routine.

John Ramsay's got a routine too.
His books are expensive.
Message: Posted by: Bill Fischer (Mar 22, 2004 09:27PM)
How about preferences for the actual thimble? Regular thimbles from a craft store? Fakini thimbles? Others?

I love working with thimbles, although I don't do much professionally with them. Daniel Cros on his video (available from Steven's Magic) has a great presentation (presentation only). When I was a kid, I bought a set of the Burling Hull Thimble Act. Wooden thimbles (8 I think) two sets of thimble holders, a giant wooden thimble and a shot glass. This comes up on ebay every now and then and it's usually about $10 - $20.
Message: Posted by: Dawai (Mar 22, 2004 10:27PM)
Dai Vernon has great a thimble routine. Using several thimbles. I use it all the time. But I can't remember what book I got it from right now.
Message: Posted by: Paul Chosse (Mar 24, 2004 11:03AM)
The Vernon routine is actually Paul Rosini's, and is described in the Dai Vernon Book of Magic, by Lewis Ganson. It is certainly as good a sequence as you could ask for. I have done it both stand-up and close-up for over 30 years. It begins with one thimble jumping from the forefinger of one hand to the forefinger of the other, then the production of a full hand of thimbles, then the transposition of the thimbles from one hand to the other, one at a time, visibly.

Best, PSC
Message: Posted by: markyeager (Mar 25, 2004 11:28PM)
I love the Rosini Routine. I first saw Mike Skinner perform it. I use colored band aids (the sticky part not the pad) to cover my thimbles. They are more visable. The stack also nests better, in your pocket. Also easier to handle.
Message: Posted by: thumbslinger (Mar 26, 2004 02:11AM)
I've been playing with these off and on, but only beginning.

I've seen Shoot Ogawa do some great mindless thimble stuff but wouldn't know if it is someone else routine or his.

I got a great packet book for $1.00 from Hollywood Magic in their discount box and there were about 3 others when Iast was there.
Message: Posted by: Brian Roberts (Apr 2, 2004 12:15AM)
I really like thimbles but they seem to have fallen out of popularity...especially at the magic shop. But they're great because they utilize pure sleight of hand and some really neat moves. I have Fakini, wooden, and Vernet (plastic) thimble sets and of all the Fakini are my favourite. I was lucky enough to get four Fakini jumbo thimbles that were gathering dust at a local magic shop to go along with my set.

They are still very magical for laymen and fun to be creative with. Jeff McBride has lots of info on the subject. Cheers!

B.
Message: Posted by: bkowkabany (Apr 13, 2004 01:28PM)
I use wooden thimbles that I have had for years. They seem to be harder to find these days. The routine I use is Berland's. Anyone familiar with it? I like the shot glass production in the middle and the jumbo thimble.

BTW, any opinions on Mogar's book Digital Effects?
Message: Posted by: bishthemagish (Apr 19, 2004 10:46PM)
There is a very nice thimble routine in the Dai Vernon Book Of Magic. The routine is Paul Rosini's and is very good.

There are also some great moves in the Dai Vernon Tribute to Nate Leipzig.

And the John Ramsey books also have some great thimble routines.

I hope this helps,

Glenn Bishop
http://www.mrhypnotist.org
Message: Posted by: cdnmagic (Apr 20, 2004 08:16AM)
When I studied magic at Chavez Studio of Magic in La Verne, California with Dale Salwak, I learnt a pretty good thimble routine...but that's long and over with. I never really like using thimbles. The magic course Dale teaches, shows everything you need to know about manipulation.

CdnMagic
Hsinchu, Taiwan
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Apr 20, 2004 12:05PM)
Mike Caveney used to do a complete thimble act.

I marketed a routine through Ken Brooke, called "Pete's Peeper" - try to find one. It is a simple stand up routine where you never turn sideways, you always face front toward the audience.

It is funny and has a great surprise finish.

As soon as I can find a suitable person to make some more we will be selling them again.
Message: Posted by: Karl Miller (Apr 22, 2004 10:23PM)
Hi every body. Mike Caveney's routine was printed in his wonderful book, MagiComedy. If you are looking to construct a routine, this is a great example. By the way, Joe Porper makes THE best thimbles (and a few special somethings to go with them =) on the planet.
Message: Posted by: Victor Brisbin (Apr 27, 2004 12:20PM)
I started with some plastic thimbles that had concentric ridges (for lack of a better term). I wish I could find more of them today. I used the original Berland thimbles (painted red) with great success during my teen years.
The Vernet nesting thimbles present some unique possibilities, but I have yet to use them in a performance. Mine tend to un-nest and talk at times.
Regarding the Fakini thimbles, the silicone material made them a little slick to use, and even with care they cracked and crumbled.
Shimada certainly elevated thimble magic to a fine art.
Message: Posted by: zur (Mar 23, 2005 12:45PM)
There is a thimble routine in "Shoot in Hollywood" but it's a Bonus only effect.
Message: Posted by: phillys (Mar 9, 2008 06:45AM)
If you're really interested in learning the thimble routine by Shoot Ogawa, you can already! He has released it on DVD for quite sometime now but he's only selling them in his lectures. I bought one of the last copies of the DVD in this leg of the tour ;)

I'm so excited. *starts practicing*
Message: Posted by: jordanl (Mar 9, 2008 10:29AM)
Joe Mogar sells good quality normal thimbles in a variety of colors. His dvd has some unique material on it.
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Mar 9, 2008 12:33PM)
Viggo Jahn (1907-2004) from Denmark was a great/expert manipulator with thimbles.
He won FISM: GRAND PRIX: 1949 in Amsterdam.
He was very wellknown in the scandinavian countries.
Kenny Quinn is now doing the late Viggo´s famous act.

Viggo Jahn was an active magician until he was 80 years old.
Viggo is Danish but he lived in the U.S. for many years, long time ago. He was a real professional, with a long career that lasted over 50 years.
Message: Posted by: mcharisse (Mar 9, 2008 08:55PM)
Generally speaking, I think thimbles are easier to manipulate then cards or coins. so they are a good place to learn the fundamentals of manipulation - the acting, etc., that goes into a sucessful pass. So it's a shame they are fading in popularity, as they are a great way to learn the fundamentals of manipulatie magic.
Marc
Message: Posted by: scottjenkins (Mar 10, 2008 01:11AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-09 07:45, phillys wrote:
If you're really interested in learning the thimble routine by Shoot Ogawa, you can already! He has released it on DVD for quite sometime now but he's only selling them in his lectures. I bought one of the last copies of the DVD in this leg of the tour ;)

I'm so excited. *starts practicing*
[/quote]

He's also selling them on his website http://www.holyshoot.com/
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Mar 10, 2008 09:34PM)
There are some outstanding magicians who work with thimbles. I love to see them work.

However, how much of the under 25 year-old population have any idea what they were?

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander

PS --- I think that has absolutely nothing to do with entertainment value. But it certainly has to upset the "ordinary object" folks.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Mar 11, 2008 08:35AM)
If you think they don't know what a thimble is, ask young gals if they know how to "darn" socks!!!

Posted: Mar 11, 2008 9:37am
If you don't want to use thimbles, per se, do what I used to do... I rolled a dollar bill around a finger tip. Made some big rolls for changes, and longway for stretching.

Use cane tips, bottle caps... look around and THINK.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Mar 11, 2008 01:42PM)
White board marker caps make for some nice thimbles....
Message: Posted by: Glenn Godsey (Mar 13, 2008 10:34AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-10 22:34, Bob Sanders wrote:

However, how much of the under 25 year-old population have any idea what they were?

[/quote]

I regularly do thimbles for college students, age 18-21. I ask them if they know what "these things" are. They answer, "THIMBLES".

Best regards,
Glenn Godsey
Message: Posted by: rikbrooks (Mar 13, 2008 01:08PM)
I may be crazy but I really like the routine that comes with the Vernet nesting thimbles. I thought it was quite well worked out.
Message: Posted by: mcharisse (Mar 15, 2008 07:51AM)
Rik,
I agree with you about the Vernets. ANd even if you use a different routine, you get a lot of thimbles for your money. The Vernets are also some of the best for back palming, something I've not been able to master with the Fakinis.
Marc
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Feb 7, 2011 12:31AM)
What do you think of the Porper thimbles?
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 7, 2011 11:35AM)
Depends on the routine. They are BRASS NESTS OF TWO and well made.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Feb 7, 2011 12:33PM)
A couple of years ago, I found a little plastic green thimble and started practicing again. It is one of my favorite openers. It's amazing. One does a complicated coin routine, silk effects and cap-in-the-bottle effects, and they keep asking about that little thimble! That tells ya something...

Doug
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 7, 2011 01:03PM)
See my thimble routine at http://www.petebiro.com "Pete's Peeper".
Message: Posted by: Deceptor (Feb 11, 2011 02:00PM)
Somewhere around 40 or so years ago at Jay Marshall's Magic Inc., Geoffrey Buckingham gave me a rather long tutorial on how to make wooden thimbles stage worthy by embedding rhinestones in them. (Somewhere around 42 stomes per thimble.) I made two sets of five and, true to Geoffrey's word, when illuminated with stage lighting they were almost like fire on the finger tips. Really quite beautiful.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 11, 2011 06:50PM)
I spoke with Shoot Ogawa today and he still has sets of thimbles he'll sell you.
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Feb 16, 2011 08:30AM)
Pete : I just love your "Beer Cap Vanish" too. Need to patent that one!
Fortasse
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Feb 20, 2011 03:24PM)
Are there any routines that have been designed specifically for use with the Porper thimble set?
Message: Posted by: malaki (Apr 20, 2018 09:39AM)
One resource not yet mentioned is Tarbell. Good stuff in there as well.

If you want to cover a metal thimble in rhinestones, use the "Slip Stop" thimbles. They have no rim, but are covered in rectangular divots. This is an ideal base for Epoxy to hold flat-backed, glass rhinestones. I create a rim of larger, colored stones with a matching very large stone in the top. Once the glue sets, I fill in the remainder of the area with very small white rhinestones. This set up will allow color changes, and the larger stones around the rim create a very nice rim with which to back palm. Glass is better then plastic, for the latter will become scratched and lose it's brilliance. The gent above was right - under theatrical lights or in sunlight, they look like they are on fire.

I too own some Vernet nesting thimbles. Very nicely made, but nearly impossible to separate without them talking.

Wooden thimbles are nice, but are very bulky. Perhaps I will get the thimble drill from Woodcraft and start making my own.
I have always thought of using wooden thimbles and stamping them with my contact info, to be used as calling cards. Though the recipient would have to have pretty good sight...
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Apr 22, 2018 12:35AM)
Go to lybrary.com they have great information on thimble magic.
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (Apr 24, 2018 11:01AM)
My latest e-Book on the "Easter Bunny Parade" in The Wizards' Journal #36 shows how I evolved Bob Nelson's "Peter Rabbit Goes to Town" into thimble magic using vinyl finger puppets instead of thimbles, and then segued into a cup and ball routine using large plastic Easter eggs and small plush bunnies and ducks. I was surprised to discover that a thimble move I developed for use with the finger puppets (which cling to your fingers better than thimbles) was nowhere to be found in the thimble literature, so I included it in the e-Book under the name "Pinky Pass." Not too many uses for the pinky finger in a thimble routine, but for finger puppets, it comes in very handy.
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Apr 26, 2018 12:07AM)
[quote]On Mar 22, 2004, davidmagic wrote:
Steve Beam's Boook, The Magic of Joe Mogar is all thimbles[/quote]

[quote]On Mar 9, 2008, jordanl wrote:
Joe Mogar sells good quality normal thimbles in a variety of colors. His dvd has some unique material on it. [/quote]

Couple old quotes from this thread. I'm kind of surprised more people didn't mention Joe and his incredible work with thimbles. I have the book along with his dvd and 3 tubes of his thimbles in various colors as well as a thimble effect he sold as a stand alone effect. He actually went out and had his thimbles made to his own specifications. Some of the moves cannot be done well with the "cheap plastic thimbles" that have a bit of an odd shape. His look like real thimbles (only they are colored plastic). His are "Inexpensive" but not "cheap" and are designed to work with all the moves, switches, vanishes, appearances... that he teaches in the book and on the dvd. They come in a tube of 10 thimbles for only $15 and you can mix and/or match from 7 different vibrant colors. http://joemogar.tripod.com/id7.html

I have found the hand / finger exercises he teaches as a warm up, help my coin magic too (as far as dexterity).