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Topic: Female character role models
Message: Posted by: danaruns (Sep 21, 2016 08:46AM)
Ladies (and gents), what female magicians can you point me to that are good examples of a well-defined character that creates their own reality? I don't mean someone who stands in front of the audience and shows them tricks, but a character that creates a whole world for the audience and invites them in for a little stay. I can think of many male magicians who have such a character. Pop Haydn, Mac King, Woody Pittman, Rob Zabrecky and Dan Sperry come to mind. But I can't think of any women with such characters.

There are women magicians I really like for other reasons. Jade, for instance, for her control of the stage, Suzanne for her connection with audiences, etc. But as for a character who creates a whole world for their magic, I can't think of any.

Can you?
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Sep 21, 2016 10:47AM)
Sheri Lewis had a great character and a cast of "friends " that populated her world.

I know she did some Magic as well as Puppetry. She was quite an Entertainer.

Probably not what you were looking for but Sheri deserves a mention.

-Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Sep 21, 2016 12:28PM)
Misty Lee, Sophie Evans and Lisa Menna all work from character.
Message: Posted by: Julie (Sep 21, 2016 04:10PM)
How about Tina Lenert? (not sure of correct spelling)

Julie
Message: Posted by: danaruns (Sep 21, 2016 05:33PM)
[quote]On Sep 21, 2016, Julie wrote:
How about Tina Lenert? (not sure of correct spelling)

Julie [/quote]

Tina has one routine I know of that is character driven, but in general she's not a character magician.
Message: Posted by: gomerel (Sep 21, 2016 09:19PM)
[quote]On Sep 21, 2016, Mary Mowder wrote:
Sheri Lewis had a great character and a cast of "friends " that populated her world.

I know she did some Magic as well as Puppetry. She was quite an Entertainer.

Probably not what you were looking for but Sheri deserves a mention.

-Mary Mowder [/quote]

Mary, I had quite a crush on Sheri as a young lad. Her father was the official magician of NYC. They wrote a book on magic for beginners, which I have. Yes, she was a magician.
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Sep 23, 2016 02:10PM)
Shari was inspirational for me as well.

Her characters were direct and witty and when I was young, Women did not get many chances to express themselves fully in public. Some of the things Shari's Puppets said were borderline scandalous and would not have been allowed if not for her Puppet fronts.

When people wonder why Women haven't succeeded at the same rates as Men, they should realize that Women have been held back from saying what they would really like to in many cases. If a Woman says something that is too edgy she will be chastised or judged far more harshly than Men.
If a Woman is demanding and detail oriented she probably won't be called a strong leader (i hate to say what she will probably be called). There is a real double standard that holds us all back because this is bad for Men too.

We are not training and utilizing some of out best talent in a world that needs all creative minds to offer solutions to our mutual problems.

-Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: danaruns (Sep 24, 2016 07:41PM)
[quote]On Sep 23, 2016, Mary Mowder wrote:
When people wonder why Women haven't succeeded at the same rates as Men, they should realize that Women have been held back from saying what they would really like to in many cases. If a Woman says something that is too edgy she will be chastised or judged far more harshly than Men.
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I am quite edgy in my shows, which are for adult audiences. I'm careful about where I do it, but I talk about the Hitachi magic wand and have a lot of double entendres, but I gear them all to women. Women are in on the jokes, and they are meant for women. Men kind of go along for the ride. After one joke, I always tell the guys to ask their wives to explain it to them. It's part of my character. I've surprisingly not been chastised for it. Maybe it's because I do it in conspiracy with the women in the audience. I dunno. But I purposefully walk right out to the edge and stick my toe over it. I wish more women would take those kinds of risks. We are generally too cautious, imho.
Message: Posted by: gomerel (Sep 25, 2016 09:52PM)
Shari sometimes went to a restaurant and shocked people by ordering lamb chops.
Message: Posted by: Stucky (Sep 28, 2016 06:49AM)
Look into Malin Nilsson and Gwen the Butterfly Girl.
Message: Posted by: paulapaul (Dec 31, 2016 12:04PM)
I looked at numerous prototypes to draw from, for character development. Among materials I found was a book titled The Goddesses in Everywoman. A wide variety of female dieties with awesome powers, with characteristics from strong thru soft and others between.
Message: Posted by: Russo (Jan 3, 2017 12:35PM)
Has anyone heard of Del O'Dell she had a Shop in Hollywood, Calif and a TV Show in the mid-50's.
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Jan 3, 2017 02:59PM)
I've started reading the book about her.

She had and was quite a character.
She was famous for doing Magic in a rhyming scheme.

She was also a great juggler and balancer as well as being a "Strong Woman" in both senses of the word. She could balance a couch on her chin and climb up and down a ladder.

I would love to see film of her.

-Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Jan 3, 2017 09:13PM)
Shari was friend and a regular guest on my radio and television programs for several decades. She was quite inspirational and in some cases groundbreaking. She understood entertainment and the business of entertainment. I always enjoyed out times together and she was never one in a hurry or to make you feel rushed. She once told me she enjoyed talking "business" with me as I think we both taught and helped each other over the years. She knew she made a difference and touched many, yet remained both strong and humbled.
Message: Posted by: Russo (Jan 4, 2017 11:23AM)
Mary- Whats the name of Dels book-- When in high school(mid 54s ) she had amature/simi pros guest on her TV Show- I was to be on it doing the 100ft rope tie- when We arrived(buddy who was to tie me & I)- the Studio Guard told us the Show was canceled the week befor -though no one told us-of course I was just a kid and didn't have the smarts to call and confirm the gig, OHHHHH Memories. Ralph(russo)Roussau
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Jan 4, 2017 12:04PM)
Wow, tough break Ralph. Interesting memory but I know it still smarts.

The book is: Don't Fool Yourself, (That's my Work) The Magical Life of Dell O'Dell

https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Fool-Yourself-Magical-ODell/dp/0989231720

-Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: Russo (Jan 4, 2017 12:41PM)
Thanks Mary - . - yeah - memories- even at 79(80 , June'17) Ralph(russo)Rousseau
Message: Posted by: TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb (Jan 7, 2017 06:27PM)
Mandy Muden and Romany both fit the brief asked for in the original post
Message: Posted by: charliemartin (Jan 17, 2017 08:53AM)
Becky Blaney. Comedy Magician personified.
Message: Posted by: Brad Jeffers (Dec 28, 2017 02:05AM)
The Sacred Riana
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Feb 18, 2018 02:13PM)
Celeste Evans is the best lady magician I have ever seen. Very professional, and was a top billing performer.

http://www.celesteevansmagic.com/