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Topic: Which is the lesser of two evils?
Message: Posted by: JasperLee (Oct 22, 2016 08:13PM)
An artist who performs with an imitation illusion perfectly

or an artist who performs poorly with an original illusion.

I'm in no way encouraging either, but nonetheless, this is happening.

I think someone who performs with an original illusion does more harm than good compared to someone who performs with an imitation perfectly.

One hits hard on the creator, the other hits hard on the audiences.

Your pick?
Message: Posted by: wildarr (Oct 22, 2016 09:29PM)
Comparing apples to oranges, I feel. I assume you're asking which is worse: piracy or exposure.

The first scenario, performing an imitation illusion perfectly, would only be unethical if the performer has failed to attain permission for the performance and fails to give proper credit.

The second scenario, exposure via poor performance, is trickier to evaluate since the intent of the performer, the nature of the audience, the extent of the exposure, and the existence of any tangential exposure beyond what is "original." Rehearsal with a trusted group is far different from performing without rehearsing for an audience of strangers.

Knowing whether sins are equal or unequal depends a lot on context.
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Oct 23, 2016 09:02AM)
Which is worse, death at the hands of a doctor with great skill but in a bombed out hospital with broken down, rusty equipment; or death at the hands of an inept doctor who is working in the most modern of hospitals?
Message: Posted by: Danny Kazam (Oct 24, 2016 01:23PM)
Either way you are dead so it doesn't really matter. Lol

I noticed you used the word, "imitation" rather than "knock off". I see nothing wrong with imitations as long as it doesn't violate legal patent laws. Sometimes imitations are better than the original. I don't know why any performer would publically give credit to the originator unless he was selling his imitation illusion. It comes down to what the audience perceives. Was the audience amazed and entertained? Does your audience know if you are using an imitation or original illusion? Does it matter to them?

There are several chair suspensions on the market today. Which one is the original? And are all the rest imitations? I do not own the original chair suspension but own a modern day version that is much better than the original. Do I own an imitation?

The performer who performs poorly is separate from the illusion he is using. If he performed bad with the original, he probably would perform bad with an imitation. Someone who performs great with an imitation would probably perform great with an original as well. It's not the tools of the trade but the tradesman's skills using the tools.
Message: Posted by: Ray Pierce (Nov 26, 2016 07:10PM)
Original isn't necessarily synonymous with "good". There are many original illusions which are just plain bad. Some are even clever but that still doesn't make them good. There seems to be this feeling that just because something is original it is somehow better. Now, I'm not for knocking off or stealing anyone else's ideas. Most of my illusions are original but I also do many traditional illusions as well. For years I played classical music as a symphonic percussionist. I can count on one had the number of times we played original music, yet it was beautiful.

I agree with Danny... if you're a great performer, you can do original material or classic material as you know how to connect with the audience and tell a good story. Likewise, if you're not a great performer, just doing an original illusion won't necessarily elevate your performance.
Message: Posted by: paul180 (Sep 14, 2017 09:53AM)
Performing poorly is NEVER a good thing. Using rip offs is also unethical. If you can't afford the real deal, perform enough to EARN your props. If your not a pro, then just settle for what you can afford. Then practice till it's perfect and then show your stuff.

I see no other way to be ethically and morally correct, in your pursuit of enlightenment.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Sep 14, 2017 10:44AM)
Lessor of two evils for whom exactly?

I have my doubts if an audience will care if the idea is original or ripped off. So are we speaking from their perspective or yours?