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Topic: Busking Las Vegas
Message: Posted by: Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse (Nov 17, 2016 03:00AM)
So I was finally able to visit Las Vegas and see some of the street performers there. I had an absolutely amazing time and it was all due to TheRealMagicMike. He took me in and made me feel just like one of the locals. He showed me around and pushed me to perform in many different environments. One of which was on the street. He took me out on a Monday and let me use his spot to try my hand at busking. It was absolutely brutal, but a great experience. Now I cant wait to become a full time busker. If you are heading his way and he has time to meet up with you, you are doing yourself a diservice not meeting him. He's not only nice and outgoing but knows so much. He showed me subtleties that I would never have dreamed of. A big thank you to TheRealMagicMike for changing my magic forever.
Message: Posted by: SugarRayRick (Nov 17, 2016 04:41AM)
Sounds like an amazing day out!!

When I was in Vegas, approx 12 months ago - magicians were light on the ground. 😢
Message: Posted by: Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse (Nov 17, 2016 09:51AM)
Sorry to hear that. Next time you go try Fremont street. There seemed to be a magician there every day at least. I did have a great time and met some really nice people
Message: Posted by: cbguy (Nov 18, 2016 09:14PM)
Nice to hear you gave it a shot Kyoki.

That's the first step. Very Nice.
Message: Posted by: TheRealMagicMike (Nov 20, 2016 05:30AM)
Thanks Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse for the kind words!!! I had a great time as well with you and your wife and was glad to have a couple of nights to have some fun and do a little magic together. I'm glad you enjoyed yourself, it was my pleasure... let's stay in touch...
Message: Posted by: Ish70 (Dec 6, 2016 04:12PM)
I, too, was disappointed by my first trip to Vegas. The only magician I saw was on Fremont Street. He was very good and worked the crowd well. I saw him do a 3-card reveal for 3 different specs and a bill transposition (he called it "giving a deja vu").

Otherwise, no other magicians. This was the Saturday after Thanksgiving this year. Wish I'd read here first, I'd have looked up TheRealMagicMike!
Message: Posted by: TheRealMagicMike (Dec 6, 2016 05:40PM)
[quote]On Dec 6, 2016, Ish70 wrote:
Wish I'd read here first, I'd have looked up TheRealMagicMike! [/quote]

There just aren't the number of magicians in Vegas that most people would think... many come thinking it is a dead easy gig and leave after not too long a time.

I love meeting magicians who visit here... "Kyoki" was one of the few who contacted me prior to his visit so I was able to put some time aside for him and have some fun.

Right now its hit or miss with me as far as street magic goes since the temperatures have dropped to a level that is uncomfortable. On nicer days I'm still out but most days I'm now performing bar magic at a couple of Strip Bars (bars on the "Las Vegas Strip"... not "Strip Clubs"...)

Anyone who is visiting Vegas, my invitation is always open... just let me know before you come !!!
Message: Posted by: ufo (Apr 25, 2017 07:06PM)
Thanks for the invite!
Message: Posted by: TheRealMagicMike (Apr 26, 2017 02:38PM)
Well, I am sorry to report that street performing on the Las Vegas Strip has pretty much been completely shut down. Over the past 2-3 weeks the police have increasingly applied pressure by issuing tickets for things like noise ordinance, impeding foot traffic and even for having a battery that powers an amp. There have been many arrests of those who ignored "warning tickets" and now the streets are empty except for some costume characters.

The rumor is that Ceasers, who owns the bulk of the casinos on the strip, wants performers to pay for performance spots and audition. A similar thing is happening on Freemont Street, but so far there are still performers there.

Some legal action may be on the way in the form of filing for an injunction in Federal Court... but for now, it is pretty much dead here. Sad.
Message: Posted by: dyrwolf (Apr 29, 2017 02:13PM)
Bummer. I am heading out next month, and staying downtown this time. Used to always been plenty of action on Fremont. Vigil is no longer at the Mirage either. Not interested in big shows, but close up and the such, so if anyone knows of any memorial day thru thur, please PM me.
Message: Posted by: TheRealMagicMike (Apr 29, 2017 02:52PM)
Well, Freemont St still has some action, but not as much since they are giving everyone a pretty hard time.The Strip is dead for now, BUT, things can change quickly here so you never know what can happen within the next month.

Smoothini is doing bar magic nightly at the Rock Bar at Planet Hollywood and I am at Chayo Mexican Restaurant & Tequila Bar at the Linq Hotel Casino nightly from 7-9:30pm.

I will update the Vegas info here periodically as things change.
Message: Posted by: gallagher (May 1, 2017 11:31AM)
Hey Mike,
I sorry to hear about the Pitch being closed down.

Someone once told me:
"Humans are the only terrestrial animal,
that pinkles and poops in his own drinking water."

I've come to believe:
"Buskers are the only theater people,.....
.......on their own stage."

Hope things turn around for you,..
(hope your bar magic keeps you afloat 😋 🍺
Chayo's Mexican Restaurant, will probably keep you fed! 🌮 🌮 🌮)

,....after a while,
though,
you'll miss,
..a 'good' Street Show(!). 🙃

keep the fifth Ace,
a Heart,
...and high up the sleeve.
gallagher
Message: Posted by: TheRealMagicMike (May 4, 2017 12:05PM)
Thanks gallagher, it's definitely been a rough week. A pinched nerve in my back along with severe spasms sent me to the hospital a week ago... been loaded up with drugs for the past 5 days as the prescriptions slowly run out. Haven't worked in a week, hoping to make a short appearance tonight.

Some street performer friends are packing up and heading several hours away near Santa Monica until things straighten out here. Once I'm fully back up and running I'd like to join them for a few days a week and also keep the bar thing going as well here in Vegas.

Right when you think you've got things figured out that *** monkey always seems to show up with his wrench... well, better days ahead !!!
Message: Posted by: gallagher (May 4, 2017 04:45PM)
Hey Mike,
your back sounds like a bigger problem,
then losing your Pitch!

Two things:
1.) Cissus Quadrangularis
('Broken-back-plant')

2.) Pavel Tsatsouline 'Kettlebell Swinging'
{wait 'til you're pain-free before starting(!)}

No lie. I'm painfree,..
trouble-free,
for the past several years.

Check it out,...
There's nothing,..NOTHING worse then living in pain.
,..doesn't have to be.

Head up.
gallagher
Message: Posted by: Nickoli Sharpe (May 21, 2017 10:21AM)
I was in Vegas in January crazy saturated with performers.
On the strip aswell as Fremont.
Yes they should audition performers.
Look at Boston fanny hall, Baltimore harbor.
Surfers paradise Australia and on and on.
Those are killer pitches and very well run.
In Vegas you can stand with diaper on and a sign.
They call this performing?
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (May 21, 2017 06:28PM)
No. We call it "freedom of expression."
Message: Posted by: Nickoli Sharpe (May 23, 2017 08:59AM)
I'm All for freedom, wouldn't be a street performer otherwise.

But really standing with a sign and asking for a photo.
Yes it is freedom of expression, performing not really sure.

To each there own.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (May 23, 2017 02:57PM)
I didn't see a guy with a diaper. Just characters in costumes. My hat's off to anyone who can pose in Las Vegas with a Darth Vader or Chewbacca costume. The guy in the Chuckie costume had a fan built into the back of his head!

I don't see where restricting them would be a good thing. How long before it went from; "you're not performing, you're not alllowed on the streets," to "you're not performing WELL enough, you're not allowed on the streets?" The streets are supposed to be the great equalizer, if you have a gimmick people will tip for, you have every right to be out there.
Message: Posted by: Eric Evans (May 24, 2017 12:32AM)
Performance art is much like porn; you can't necessarily say exactly what it is, but you know it when you see it. The same thing can be said in regards to not being performance art..

...and that is where all the trouble starts.

For example, the situation here in Las Vegas: There are roughly 30 pitches/spots (yes, literally spots) on Fremont Street. About the same number of pitches in Ocean City MD now. 30 spaces for people to perform to get their money, to make their living. In one case, everyone has to move every two hours and you may not get a space at all. So, if you can't make what you need to in two hours, you have to wait around for an undetermined amount of time to secure another two hour pitch. There's no certainty whatsoever.

To make matters worse, only half of the pitches are any good. And of course there are tons of cardboard sign holders and palm leaf twisters taking up two thirds of them. The sign holders have clever slogans such as "GO !@#$ YOURSELF!" and another gem, "Trump Sucks". Actually the Trump signs are more explicit. Anyway, you get the idea.

So would you consider that an art form, or a relevant form of expression? Has inane profanity usurped meaningful discourse? Americans seem hell bent on proving this to be the case.

Getting back to the topic at hand,

[quote]On May 23, 2017, ed rhodes wrote:
...

I don't see where restricting them would be a good thing. How long before it went from; "you're not performing, you're not alllowed on the streets," to "you're not performing WELL enough, you're not allowed on the streets?" The streets are supposed to be the great equalizer, if you have a gimmick people will tip for, you have every right to be out there. [/quote]

It's not my intention to restrict anyone of any rights, those are already being restricted by the municipal forces, Police, either State or Local or both, Park police, Marshalls, Sheriffs, I've been run off by them all.

I'm not the one restricting anybody's rights, on the contrary, I'm busy fighting for my own. And have been doing so for most of my life.

Speaking of which, I'm really tired of doing it. Especially since I'm equated as no more deserving than some old lady in a wheel chair holding a sign that says "Suck My D**k".

Free speech?

Really?

You must inhabit a different spectrum of the intellectual/social sphere than I.
Message: Posted by: Nickoli Sharpe (May 24, 2017 08:32AM)
Hear, Hear,

I agree with the above post.
Yes they should be auditioned, best acts get a permit.
Message: Posted by: Eric Evans (Jun 2, 2017 10:46PM)
Actually, I'm more of a wild west kinda guy.

I love the street, its unspoken laws, its final judgement. The street is as just as anything else I've seen.

Can't say that much for a council of uneducated, know nothing bureaucrats. Who negotiate with the ACLU (who know less) to enrich all parties concerned. All parties, but the artists; the spokespeople of truth. Not volume, but truth.

Nah, I'd rather render judgment to a random public jury than to a vested-interest schill.
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Jun 13, 2017 07:23PM)
I agree with every word you said Eric and you description of Fremont is priceless.
What you said is so adequately put.
I have never agreed to permits, rules or regulations for busking. We be taking care of our self's for a very long time. Once they are introduced them, the line has been crossed and you have to work with them.
Once a pen-pusher rules then there is no turning back. Kiss good bye to your freedom, freedom of speech and all the you hold dear.
In my mind once the line is crossed and regulations rules are in place. Then resit a permit system is still not the way forward it is more of the same but worse.
Its a sad day but it sounds like to me regulators need a clear definition of what a busker is and is not. They created them self's this office job, now they need to work in the interest of the public, Freemont and Buskers, creating a space for street performers as part of the Fremont experiance. On the other hand I guess it all mind blowing for a day tripper and they just don't care as long as the house in winning.
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Jun 13, 2017 07:34PM)
Here is a blog I did back in 2013 on freedom of expression that I think relates to this topic.
https://www.schoolofbusking.com/2013/03/20/busking-a-legal-human-right-freedom-verses-regulations/
Message: Posted by: Nickoli Sharpe (Jun 14, 2017 10:13AM)
Very well said Mario,

How do you get rid of the people standing with a card board sign?
Claiming they are busking?

Maybe no permit but some kind of audition.
Message: Posted by: gallagher (Jun 15, 2017 04:21AM)
Society today,
here in the 'Western World',
has very little 'basis'*.

Most people stand for the 'fact',
that they stand for nothing.

If a 'possible' Audience, would watch
a 'possible' Show,
and tell the guy,
"What a bag of rubbage!"...

If folks WOULD NOT give a junk-twisted-addict a drop,..

If folks would tell an arogant ego-twisted-idiot,
with an amp,..
to shove it....

If a shop owner would tell the bum to move his butt from the store front window...

* 'basis' is simply another word for 'Balls'.

Freedom, without the courage to define it,
..defend it,..
What is that?
None.

. . . . . . .. .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .

It's ironic,
that the most liberal places to Busk,
are also the 'poorest'.

'Poorest',...economically.

If we,..YOU,
can change your values,
just slightly(!),
strive for a bit of 'human warmth',..

When Frederick Douglass rhapsodized about,
"patient, enduring, honest, unremitting and indefatigable work, into which the whole heart is put",...
he was talking about 'happiness'.

'Mobility' is a key.
Combined with 'Hope',...
'Flexiblity' can be achieved.
The ablity of a true Master.

I wish us all well.
The courage to keep 'trying' for it. 🙃
And the 'goodness' to keep 'giving it'.
gallagher