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Topic: Best way to learn card tricks
Message: Posted by: James Owen (Jul 3, 2002 02:05PM)
Alright fellow magicians, I have just finished reading Paul Daniels Autobiography and the guy has had an effect on me, his card tricks were top draw, but what I want to know, is what is the best way to learn card tricks and all the sleights? Any help would be great. Thanks for your time and help.

You guys are the best :bikes:
Message: Posted by: Todd (Jul 3, 2002 03:37PM)
I started with Kaufmans 'Basic Card Technique' video. This video covers the basics of what you need to learn for card magic, VERY HELPFUL! From there I went on to Ammars 'Easy to Master Card Miracles' series which has some great card magic for any level magician. Also, Daryls 'Encyclopedia of Sleights' is top notch. All are top notch because of the magicians who teach them, they don't get any better!!
Message: Posted by: John Clarkson (Jul 3, 2002 10:26PM)
Try "Royal Road to Card Magic" and "Expert Card Technique." These are true classics that will describe most traditional sleights and also contain lots of effects.
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Message: Posted by: danny (Jul 4, 2002 03:36AM)
If you want the basics and a bit of intermediate card magic and sleights go for The Royal Road to Card Magic by Jean Hugard. Expert Card Technique is a bit more advanced but is still worth getting. For more advanced stuff get Expert at the Card table. I think these three are the best.
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Jul 4, 2002 05:01AM)
Probably the best way to learn card tricks would be with a deck of cards in your hand!
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Okay, enough with the stupid jokes.
I've said this before, but it bears repeating:
Harry Lorayne's The Magic Book is probably the absolutely best for learning basic magic, especially card tricks.
The book starts with the assumption that the reader is a total stranger to cards and magic, so there is no "use your favorite force" or "this is, of course, the Spoongable triple-lift back-palm glide".
He starts with how to shuffle a deck and goes on slowly from there.
And all this from an acknowledged master!
cheers,
Peter Marucci
showtimecol@aol.com
Message: Posted by: Huw Collingbourne (Jul 4, 2002 06:21AM)
On the basis that it's always best to watch the experts to see how things are supposed to look, last night I watched a recording I made a few months ago of a show called
'Hidden Secrets of Magic' (no secrets actually exposed - just a more or less random collection of some tricks and stunts).

The show featured two card workers - Steve Forte and Bill Malone. Heck! They are good! As I watched them my mood went from admiration to depression. I was hoping to be inspired by what I saw. Instead, I realised that my own fumbling attempts at handling cards were so far removed from their beautiful, elegant manipulation that I might as well be wearing sheepskin gloves for all the difference it would make.

Obviously, Forte and Malone must have been handling cards for hours every day for years on end to acquire that level of skill. But, boy, am I regretting watching that video...

oh, well, back to the 'dropping the cards on the floor' routine which is the nearest I get to doing any fancy shuffles and flourishes!

Huw

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On 2002-07-04 06:01, Peter Marucci wrote:
I've said this before, but it bears repeating:
Harry Lorayne's The Magic Book is probably the absolutely best for learning basic magic, especially card tricks.


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I know from your previous posts how highly you rate this book, Peter. If someone (guess who?) already owned an ever-expanding library of magic books including the Tarbell Course, The Royal Road and the Mark Wilson Cyclopaedia, would you *still* suggest buying the Lorayne book too? Heaven knows, I don't need much encouragement to buy more books. Then again, I have to make sure I leave some time to read the ones I already have...! On the other hand, if the Lorayne book adds a useful level of explanation that's missing from the others books I mention, well, I would certainly be tempted.

best wishes
Huw
Message: Posted by: hobbymagic (Jul 11, 2002 01:21PM)
There are hundreds (thousands) of card tricks. My limited experience is, find 10 to 20 tricks that you like and practice them. Select tricks that are varied i.e. use different slights and have different themes (not all pick a card and find it).

You don't have to know how to perform all the most difficult slights but learn the ones in your selected tricks so that you can do them well. You have to be able to fool an audience not be on the same level as the masters in handling cards.
Message: Posted by: MrClue (Jul 11, 2002 02:53PM)
IMHO I'd highly recommend at least the first 2 volumes of Giobbi's Card College books.

Very good explanations for the slights, well done graphics and what I like most: a lot of psychological background and finesse on the WHY of the resp. sleights.

As an addition for each set of slights he introduces some effects to go with it.

My 2 EuroCents,
MrClue
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Jul 11, 2002 09:27PM)
Huw,
I don't know that the Lorayne book adds a whole lot to the sum of knowledge if you've already got the other books you mention.
But for someone just starting out, the book is a godsend!
However, you might be interested in it just for the anecdotal stories that Lorayne tells about his starting in magic.
cheers,
Peter Marucci
showtimecol@aol.com
Message: Posted by: haulboss007 (Jul 11, 2002 11:23PM)
I started with a book called "now you see it now you don't" I'm not sure if it's still in print, it had a lot of pictures and at that time of my life it really helped, then I went to "Expert at the Card Table" and Royal Road to Card Magic. Since then I've acquired numerous books on all forms of magic, I've just stated to get DVD's and the best I've found is Encyclopedia of Card Sleights by Daryl so if that's the route you want to go that might be a start.

If there's anything else I can help with just PM me

Peace

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Message: Posted by: magiciandude (Aug 20, 2002 11:26PM)
I agree with peter. This man is on top of things and knows what he is doing so I would take Peters advice and buy The Magic Book by Harry Lorayne.

Hope my words were of help.
Lance R. Wilson
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Message: Posted by: tla (Nov 26, 2002 12:25AM)
James,
The answer to your question will depend on how you can best understand a sleight or effect. I find that being able to observe someone visually aids in the learning experience. Daryl's Encyclopedia of Card Sleights is a wonderful set featuring an accomplished teacher. If you mastered this set, you would be well on your way to being a master cardician!
Message: Posted by: Edmund_Fitzgerald (Nov 28, 2004 07:07PM)
I find different book styles appeal to different people, based on how the illustratins are or how clear the text is etc. Its unfortunate that most magic books that I see in stores are shrinkwrapped so that prospective buyers can't even skim through to see if the style appeals to the reader.

So lately I have taken to trusting the judgement of people that I can relate to, if they provide serious detailed reviews. Comments that are too vague and unspported, such as "this is great, get this, etc." don't wash with me any more.
Message: Posted by: Reis O'Brien (Nov 29, 2004 08:40AM)
The books are all great, and that's how I learn the majority of my tricks. But to answer the origianl question, I think nothing beats learning one on one with a fellow magician. I love sitting over a table working on new moves. But this is all easier said than done. But I really feel that's the best way to learn.
Message: Posted by: rmoraleta (Nov 29, 2004 08:56AM)
I feel that books are the best. Because there are many things left out in a video.

If you learn the terms it would be very easy to learn a card trick described in any magazine or print material. You will be able to understand what the next educated magician is saying also. It shortens the description of a move too. It has many advantages.

The advantage of the video is that it shows you immediately how to make the trick work. Not much on terms sometimes.
Message: Posted by: acmp (Nov 29, 2004 11:21AM)
Hi,

my first real post....

I've just got into this and discovered Oz Pearlman, he does lots for Penguin Magic. I watched his 'born to perform' DVD and it has plenty in to keep me busy for months.

With the DVD to actually show me 'how to', I'm dyslexic and can read 'how to' over and over again without getting it, I've got a convincing 'erdnais colour change' and boy does it feel good when the 'volenteer' says how did you do that?

Hope this helps

acmp<><
Message: Posted by: Katmando (Nov 30, 2004 11:56AM)
All good advice. But the one thing I have a problem with that I need to keep telling myself is Practic, Practice.

Pick something to work on and do not go on until you have mastreed that.


Good Luck <><
Message: Posted by: JediMindTrick (Dec 2, 2004 01:01AM)
Roberto Giobbi's Card College Vol. 1-4 is a great encyclopedia of knowledge for learning cards. Very thorough, with nice explanations and diagrams.
Message: Posted by: tony4938 (Dec 2, 2004 01:49AM)
As a person who has recently just started card magic also, I recommend the Card College Volumes and as a bit of a visual help I bought Daryls Encyclopedia of card sleights Vol 1-8. My card magic and handling has vastly improved after using these. But most of all don't give up keep, it's not easy but if you practice enough and put the time into it, then you will reap the benefits.

Good luck