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Topic: REVIEW: WikiTest by Marc Kerstein
Message: Posted by: My Lovely Assistant (Jan 30, 2017 09:18PM)
ORIGINALLY POSTED ON: www.facebook.com/groups/StraightTalkMagicReviews

REVIEW: WikiTest by Marc Kerstein
RATING: 10 out of 10!
GET IT HERE:
http://marckerstein.com/?apps
https://itunes.apple.com/…/wikitest-the-wiki-…/id1177870786…
FULL REVIEW: I am very sorry to write this review.

It is perhaps the most amazing mentalism effect (described as “a modern book test that uses a borrowed smartphone”) that can be done with an iPhone that I have seen. I am *** sorry to tell you all about it. Marc Kerstein has created the mother of all mentalism effects using the MOABT as inspiration and creating an app that lets you travel with a show stopping effect at all times. Alas, because my desire to write overwhelms my selfish desire to keep this a secret, I tell you all that this app, which is not inexpensive, is astoundingly worthwhile.

The app, which can be bought on iTunes, costs $65. “No way am I spending that much money on a phone effect” I thought until I saw a performance on the Wizard Product Review. Because of that and the repeated declaration by many Magic Café users that WikiTest should be the Trick of The Year, I took the plunge. I am now a mindreading genius anytime and anywhere. Dear Marc Kerstein, please raise the price of this app immediately!

So here is how it goes: You ask anyone take out their own phone and to google how many articles there are on the Wikipedia. You then have them pull up the information and find out the average number of words in each article. You then take your own phone and multiply the number of articles by the number of words and come to some astoundingly large number of words that can be found on the wikipedia – billions! You then instruct the spectator to visit the wikipedia page and search for anything that would be on the wikipedia. Then, you instruct them to focus on a word, but not one of those itty bitty small words like “the” or “and” and tell them to hide the screen from view. You can then instantly, if you wish, name what they looked up in the wikipedia and through the process of mindreading and focusing on your spectator, you announce the word that they thought of within the article.

Having performed this effect many times, I can say that your spectators will be absolutely floored. Some spectators have actually and honestly asked me if I am truly able to read minds. I am not kidding. It is just so outrageously convincing and impossible that there is no other explanation. This is especially true since you never touch the spectator’s phone.

The app is very well designed and cleverly hides the method in plain sight. There are several ways to perform this trick, but one is a clear winner. You will need to have some audience management skills to make sure things go as planned at the outset, but it is not tough stuff. Although you never need to touch the spectator’s phone, there have been a few instances where I found I needed to help them google and search for the information about the wikipedia to get things going.

The app comes with easy to follow written instructions and links to a heavily edited performance from David Blaine’s television show. I wish Kerstein would have included some video tutorials explaining the technical side of the app because I still was left with many questions and had to monkey around with the settings a bit.

Above I referenced the Wizard Product review performance, which leaves out a crucial step by not show the entire performance. Not seeing this missing part of the trick does not matter, ultimately, because your spectator won’t care or even take note of what was not shown. I wish it would have been shown to be more representative of what you are purchasing, but they are not sellers of the product.

I think we can expect updates to the app as time goes on and that will only make this effect even stronger and easier to accomplish.
The trick is not hard to perform at all and it is easy to learn. The more you do it and get comfortable with the method, the stronger the effect gets. While there are no real angles to be concerned about, you need to make sure that the spectators are looking in the right direction and not something you don’t want them to see. This is easily accomplished by following the basic script in the instructions.

A few comments about the ad copy on the iTunes app store. The thought of word is a random word, but it is not truly random because of some basic parameters that you set for the spectator. While it is claimed that there is “no memory work needed” I do not think that is accurate. While technically correct, in order to present this in the strongest way possible, you need to memorize a handful of things.

I am not sure that any spectator can do any digital backtracking. Certainly, most spectators won’t try and others may try and fail.

Like I said, this is phenomenal. Awesome. Superb. Please keep it a secret.
Message: Posted by: Pugwash (Jan 31, 2017 07:17AM)
Thanks for the great review of WikiTest, which is clearly high on the list for Trick of the Year.

Does anyone know if WikiTest will be released on Android?
Message: Posted by: casco1 (Feb 1, 2017 07:04AM)
I am really invested in this effect, I have also kept in touch with Marc, he has been very polite and answered to all my questions. I am trying to find an iPhone to be able to do this effect
Message: Posted by: Michael Graves (Feb 1, 2017 09:30AM)
My only question is if you have to have YOUR phone on you while they use theirs.
Message: Posted by: Michael Daniels (Feb 1, 2017 09:35AM)
Yes, unless you use a con******te.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Michael Graves (Feb 1, 2017 09:45AM)
[quote]On Feb 1, 2017, Michael Daniels wrote:
Yes, unless you use a con******te.

Mike [/quote]

had a feeling, I know the performer need to have an iphone, but how about the spectator, do they have to have an iphone or will any phone work as long as you have the app on yours?
Message: Posted by: Michael Daniels (Feb 1, 2017 10:17AM)
The spectator can have any phone (or tablet etc.) as long as it has an internet connection.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Michael Graves (Feb 1, 2017 10:44AM)
I talked to marc and bought this effect right away...IT SUCKS don't BUY IT, NO OTHER MAGICIAN SHOULD HAVE THIS POWER BUT ME!

awesome effect
Message: Posted by: trent_hardcore (Feb 8, 2017 09:58PM)
Apparently this app uses cutting-each app technology. Is it possible that wikipedia app updates might stop this working in the future?
Message: Posted by: Johnsypoppins (Feb 9, 2017 05:35PM)
Well that review and the comments afterwards have sealed this for me... off to the App Store I go.
Message: Posted by: trent_hardcore (Feb 9, 2017 09:49PM)
Actually it's $120 where I live. Stuff that.
Message: Posted by: Johnsypoppins (Feb 13, 2017 05:12PM)
Happy with this, not really been interested in app effects before but am glad I went for it... now looking into a bunch of others as there appears to be quite a few interesting ones available.
Message: Posted by: wchoo002 (Feb 18, 2017 09:14PM)
Any ideas if it'll work if I use an ipad instead of an iphone?
Message: Posted by: sjl6412 (Feb 19, 2017 11:36PM)
Hi all, long time reader of the forum but first time poster.
After years of card work, just getting into some mentalism.

My question for anyone who owns this is:
does either the performer or spec HAVE to have WIKI app or can they just open safari and go to wikipedia?

Thank you in advance!
Message: Posted by: Michael Daniels (Feb 20, 2017 05:52AM)
Wikipedia opens up in the spectator's browser.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Blundern (Feb 20, 2017 01:51PM)
Can this be done in any local language/ country? When I google wikipedia I am directed to the wikipedia in my country (Norway), and the language is Norwegain. I will dound strange if I ask the to re-route to the english version. Will this work in a local language?
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Feb 20, 2017 07:24PM)
No, it works in several languages now, like French, Spanish and German...but until now not in Norwegian. Jan
Message: Posted by: Blundern (Feb 21, 2017 01:06AM)
Can I be notified if it becomes available in Norwegian?
Message: Posted by: DaCardician (Feb 21, 2017 06:02PM)
Its a shame that apps like this aren't available on Android. I will never allow myself to own an Apple product, yet it itks me that so much magic is released exclusively for iPhone. I really would like this but there is no way I will buy an iphone, it really is a shame
Message: Posted by: espmagic (Feb 23, 2017 07:00PM)
Has anyone contacted the developer to see if it will be made for Android?
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Feb 24, 2017 12:41AM)
If you want to protect a genius app then you do not produce ever an app for Android. This will be the case here. If you want to know what happens all the time due to Android ask Greg Rostami.... he might have decided differently in the past if he would have known what happens to him all the time. Jan
Message: Posted by: espmagic (Feb 24, 2017 12:22PM)
Sorry to hear - I will not buy an iPhone just to do one magic trick...
Message: Posted by: DaCardician (Mar 1, 2017 06:31AM)
It's a shame. Im sorry what has happened to Greg Rostami, I purchased a couple of his effects and they are great. But you would never catch me using and iphone and I'm with espmagic, I will not be buying an iphone for a couple of tricks, especially when a lot of them have a life shelf due to slight changes to the iphone.
Message: Posted by: magicmarcuk (Mar 3, 2017 09:32AM)
[quote]On Mar 1, 2017, DaCardician wrote:
... especially when a lot of them have a life shelf due to slight changes to the iphone. [/quote]

I certainly can't predict the future and see if Apple's iOS updates will break any of my apps down the line. That being said, I have made 10 apps on the App Store over 4 years and each of them function perfectly even now.

I also can't imagine that WikiTest will be an exception - I for one have been using it for the last 4 years and have kept adding features and updating it even before release.

Plus, looking at the version history of my other apps (tap "version history" when viewing the app in the App Store:

Earworm was released over two years ago and has had many updates since and still works perfectly.
https://appsto.re/gb/tkZ04.i

MagicWebFX was released around 3 years ago and also has had many updates with various new features and iOS 10 support. It also works perfectly.
https://appsto.re/gb/9218W.i

These aren't just updates to keep them working, but new features, new input methods and new technologies. MagicWebFX, for example, was released in 2014 but now supports the latest iPhone features like notification widgets, 3D Touch and more.

I'm not trying to convince you to switch to iPhone of course, but merely tell you that I do try to not only keep my apps working, but to keep them updated and relevant.
Message: Posted by: espmagic (Mar 3, 2017 11:33AM)
Appreciate that you keep your software working, but (being ignorant) I do not understand why Android is something you would not deal with. It is not about owning/not owning a magnificent effect, it's about not owning (!) an iPhone...
Message: Posted by: Greg Rostami (Mar 6, 2017 08:09PM)
[quote]On Feb 24, 2017, JanForster wrote:
If you want to protect a genius app then you do not produce ever an app for Android. This will be the case here. If you want to know what happens all the time due to Android ask Greg Rostami.... he might have decided differently in the past if he would have known what happens to him all the time. Jan [/quote]
I don't want to hijack this thread.
I just wanted to address Jan's comment and clear up any misunderstanding.

The issue that Jan is referring to is piracy.
There's a LOT more piracy on Android devices than iOS.

I will continue to develop all of my apps for both iOS and Android.

In our upcoming products we will have tough anti-piracy technology to dramatically reduce this problem.

Now back to the main topic of this thread ...

Greg
Message: Posted by: 252life (May 14, 2017 12:21PM)
Just took the plunge on this yesterday.
I think it's going to be a hard hitter from the looks of it.
I do wish there were video explanations, as I seem to be losing brain cells rapidly..
The directions are fine though, I'm just spoiled from the I Unlock Your Mind app (by Myke Phillips).
I wouldn't personally do more then any one phone effect to the same group.
But, having Wiki, and IUYM, is a lot of entertainment you'll have on you.
Up until IUYM, I was 100% against "tech mentalism".
But these two are just that good.
(IUYM from personal experience, and Wiki on faith :) )

looking forward to working with this.
And, if you haven't yet, give IUYM a look.
People mention that effect like wildfire. Maybe because of all the FBI phone happenings in the news.
Maybe a bunch of people super protective of anyone seeing their porn.
Whatever. They leave all giddy and shocked.
That's about good enough for me.

252Breakfast
Message: Posted by: robvh (May 24, 2017 01:02PM)
[quote]On Mar 6, 2017, Greg Rostami wrote:
The issue that Jan is referring to is piracy.
There's a LOT more piracy on Android devices than iOS.
[/quote]

I'm curious whether you believe that the piracy that is more prevalent on Android actually affects your sales. Are the people who steal actually people who would have bought otherwise?

I suspect not. Or at least not to such a degree that it makes sense to ignore the Android market (given that there are now more Android than iOS users). I'd like to hear your thoughts though.

And regardless, I can appreciate the emotional impact that seeing *anyone* rip off your hard work has. I've had a couple of my own magic ideas marketed by other magicians with no attribution (and certainly no compensation).
Message: Posted by: mangesh (Jun 27, 2017 02:45AM)
It's a brilliant app, but the misdirection has to be good. I performed it a couple of times and realised that patter has to be meaningful, otherwise "screen mirroring" is the spectators wild guess!

[quote]On Jan 31, 2017, My Lovely Assistant wrote:
ORIGINALLY POSTED ON: www.facebook.com/groups/StraightTalkMagicReviews

REVIEW: WikiTest by Marc Kerstein
RATING: 10 out of 10!
GET IT HERE:
http://marckerstein.com/?apps
https://itunes.apple.com/…/wikitest-the-wiki-…/id1177870786…
FULL REVIEW: I am very sorry to write this review.

It is perhaps the most amazing mentalism effect (described as “a modern book test that uses a borrowed smartphone”) that can be done with an iPhone that I have seen. I am *** sorry to tell you all about it. Marc Kerstein has created the mother of all mentalism effects using the MOABT as inspiration and creating an app that lets you travel with a show stopping effect at all times. Alas, because my desire to write overwhelms my selfish desire to keep this a secret, I tell you all that this app, which is not inexpensive, is astoundingly worthwhile.

The app, which can be bought on iTunes, costs $65. “No way am I spending that much money on a phone effect” I thought until I saw a performance on the Wizard Product Review. Because of that and the repeated declaration by many Magic Café users that WikiTest should be the Trick of The Year, I took the plunge. I am now a mindreading genius anytime and anywhere. Dear Marc Kerstein, please raise the price of this app immediately!

So here is how it goes: You ask anyone take out their own phone and to google how many articles there are on the Wikipedia. You then have them pull up the information and find out the average number of words in each article. You then take your own phone and multiply the number of articles by the number of words and come to some astoundingly large number of words that can be found on the wikipedia – billions! You then instruct the spectator to visit the wikipedia page and search for anything that would be on the wikipedia. Then, you instruct them to focus on a word, but not one of those itty bitty small words like “the” or “and” and tell them to hide the screen from view. You can then instantly, if you wish, name what they looked up in the wikipedia and through the process of mindreading and focusing on your spectator, you announce the word that they thought of within the article.

Having performed this effect many times, I can say that your spectators will be absolutely floored. Some spectators have actually and honestly asked me if I am truly able to read minds. I am not kidding. It is just so outrageously convincing and impossible that there is no other explanation. This is especially true since you never touch the spectator’s phone.

The app is very well designed and cleverly hides the method in plain sight. There are several ways to perform this trick, but one is a clear winner. You will need to have some audience management skills to make sure things go as planned at the outset, but it is not tough stuff. Although you never need to touch the spectator’s phone, there have been a few instances where I found I needed to help them google and search for the information about the wikipedia to get things going.

The app comes with easy to follow written instructions and links to a heavily edited performance from David Blaine’s television show. I wish Kerstein would have included some video tutorials explaining the technical side of the app because I still was left with many questions and had to monkey around with the settings a bit.

Above I referenced the Wizard Product review performance, which leaves out a crucial step by not show the entire performance. Not seeing this missing part of the trick does not matter, ultimately, because your spectator won’t care or even take note of what was not shown. I wish it would have been shown to be more representative of what you are purchasing, but they are not sellers of the product.

I think we can expect updates to the app as time goes on and that will only make this effect even stronger and easier to accomplish.
The trick is not hard to perform at all and it is easy to learn. The more you do it and get comfortable with the method, the stronger the effect gets. While there are no real angles to be concerned about, you need to make sure that the spectators are looking in the right direction and not something you don’t want them to see. This is easily accomplished by following the basic script in the instructions.

A few comments about the ad copy on the iTunes app store. The thought of word is a random word, but it is not truly random because of some basic parameters that you set for the spectator. While it is claimed that there is “no memory work needed” I do not think that is accurate. While technically correct, in order to present this in the strongest way possible, you need to memorize a handful of things.

I am not sure that any spectator can do any digital backtracking. Certainly, most spectators won’t try and others may try and fail.

Like I said, this is phenomenal. Awesome. Superb. Please keep it a secret. [/quote]
Message: Posted by: Bobby Puga (Jul 12, 2017 05:03AM)
Will this work if I have the iPhone 5s?
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Jul 14, 2017 04:16PM)
Yes. :)
Message: Posted by: TerrorInt (Oct 17, 2017 11:01PM)
My biggest pet peeve is when they play word games like saying "borrow a smart phone" when you really mean "borrow an iphone, and not any other kind of smart phone..." More honesty in the descriptions please. If you are going to say "smart phone" instead of "iphone" then there should be a technical reason it could only be an iphone.

EDIT: Now I just read that it's not even "any word" ... this is getting pathetic. Describe the trick properly ffs. I have heard from people who have iphones that this is a good trick. So why do you need to advertise it with weasel words when you could say "iphone" and "virtually any word"????
Message: Posted by: simplymagicweb (Oct 18, 2017 02:55AM)
[quote]On Oct 17, 2017, TerrorInt wrote:
My biggest pet peeve is when they play word games like saying "borrow a smart phone" when you really mean "borrow an iphone, and not any other kind of smart phone..." More honesty in the descriptions please. If you are going to say "smart phone" instead of "iphone" then there should be a technical reason it could only be an iphone.

EDIT: Now I just read that it's not even "any word" ... this is getting pathetic. Describe the trick properly ffs. I have heard from people who have iphones that this is a good trick. So why do you need to advertise it with weasel words when you could say "iphone" and "virtually any word"???? [/quote]

Hmmm, not sure where your coming from here as the spectator can have ANY smartphone, as long as they are connected to the internet? With regard to the choice of a word, most book tests will ask the spectator to choose a "longer" type word, rather than "the, and, but etc". WikiTest is no different here - the only way you could get ANY word, would be to use another method in the routine such as a peek.

I use this as part of my stage show and it gets a fantastic reaction.
Message: Posted by: magicmarcuk (Oct 18, 2017 03:27AM)
@TerrorInt - can you tell me where it is that I wrote “the spectator thinks of any word”?

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: espmagic (Oct 18, 2017 11:12AM)
<as the spectator can have ANY smartphone, as long as they are connected to the internet> - So, are you saying that it *can* be used on an Android device? Or still only iPhones?
Message: Posted by: magicmarcuk (Oct 18, 2017 12:39PM)
@espmagic - Yes, the spectator can indeed use any modern smartphone as long as it has an internet connection, be it Android or otherwise.
Message: Posted by: espmagic (Oct 18, 2017 01:16PM)
If this *is* the case you need to change the link in your signature, since it says the compatibility is for i-devices only.
Message: Posted by: magicmarcuk (Oct 18, 2017 01:20PM)
@espmagic - I think the misunderstanding is this: The spectator can have any phone. The magician, however, must have an iPhone with the WikiTest app installed.
Message: Posted by: espmagic (Oct 18, 2017 01:40PM)
Gotcha!
Message: Posted by: ko_brian (Nov 21, 2017 08:45AM)
Does it work in Portuguese as well? Thank you!
Message: Posted by: ko_brian (Nov 21, 2017 04:41PM)
Already found out that not yet!
Message: Posted by: danster08 (Jun 22, 2018 06:39AM)
If anyone has both inject and wikitest, what is your preference? Which do you seem to use more often? I will likely end up getting both, but just trying to decide where to start, as I can't get them both at the moment. Thanks for any advice and recommendations!
Message: Posted by: KLMind (Aug 11, 2018 11:14PM)
Both are very different apps, it really depends on what you want. Inject can be use as predictions and p**k and many more. Wikitest is an incredible booktest to perform. Personally, if I have to perform just one effect, I usually do Wikitest since it has two reveals. Both apps are incredible and sometime I use them both sometimes if a repeat is needed.
Message: Posted by: 252life (Sep 12, 2018 01:30PM)
I just upgraded to the pro version, but don't see any difference..?
Anyone else experience this, or have any ideas?
Thanks :)

252TechPhobic
Message: Posted by: magicmarcuk (Sep 24, 2018 04:17PM)
[quote]On Sep 12, 2018, 252life wrote:
I just upgraded to the pro version, but don't see any difference..?
Anyone else experience this, or have any ideas?
Thanks :)

252TechPhobic [/quote]

There're quite a few extra features - they would have been detailed to you before you bought the purchase. Do you have them turned on?
It might be better to join the Facebook group for support without fear of exposure, else feel free to email me.

Thanks!
Marc
Message: Posted by: 252life (Sep 24, 2018 06:58PM)
It was 100% my fault, and all is as it should be now :)
The upgrades are absolutely worth it.
Thanks.
Fantastic job.
Message: Posted by: FlightRisk (Jan 19, 2019 10:14PM)
Android share in the US, 61%
Android share in Europe 65-70%
Global Android domination about 75%
Overall iOS share dropping

Writing an app for only iOS = Poor business decision.
Message: Posted by: Ypnoze (Jan 21, 2019 02:13AM)
[quote]On Jan 19, 2019, FlightRisk wrote:
Android share in the US, 61%
Android share in Europe 65-70%
Global Android domination about 75%
Overall iOS share dropping

Writing an app for only iOS = Poor business decision. [/quote]

Yet I understand the decision, maintaining an app on Android is hard because of the number of devices and screens you have to take in consideration, and there is also the risk of piracy that is bigger.

When it comes to magic apps, I think that iOS is the way to go, what is cool in this cool is that your phone don't come in play, so in any iOS device will do
Message: Posted by: FlightRisk (Jan 22, 2019 10:56PM)
What I found is that using Embarcadero RAD Studio (though not the most common development systems) is amazing. I can write an app that will work in windows and then instantly (keeping in mind a few rules) compile it to run on MacOS, any Android phone and the iPhone. It pops up simulators for the phones and you can develop to the least common denominator as far as screen size goes. Then test on a few of the most popular screens to see if anything is formatted strangely you didn't think of and Viola, it builds each version into it's own folder and runs it in the sim or uploads it to any connected phone for testing. One codebase, multiple platforms and you can code in Delphi (my fav) or C++. Like the Apple/PC, iPhone/Android wars, everyone goes to Visual Studio. Depends if you are a Microsoft house, I guess. I use both regularly, but my main product (not a phone app, but a commercial application) is written in Delphi.

I get the piracy thing, but is that a big enough issue to care? "Some will, some won't, so what?" to borrow a sales training mnemonic and apply it to dishonest folks. Typically, you don't make any more or less for apps like this because the ones who would steal it would never have bought it anyway. You are right that a big factor is that only the magician needs the iPhone.

Another option would be "Software as a Service", but then you would be stuck if you didn't have an internet connection with your phone. Oh well, I can just borrow my daughter's iPhone! ;)
Message: Posted by: 252life (Jan 22, 2019 11:25PM)
Great points
Message: Posted by: magicmarcuk (Feb 11, 2019 09:44AM)
Hi all,
Here's a very basic performance video of WikiTest being performed live on stage.
This is simply the basic performance without the extra bells and whistles that WikiTest also offers.

[url=http://marc.ph/wikitestvideo.php?performance]WikiTest Live Performance[/url]

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: 252life (Feb 11, 2019 11:55AM)
Thank you
Message: Posted by: 252life (Feb 11, 2019 01:21PM)
That was a fantastic presentation
Message: Posted by: Matty Freakin Whipple (Mar 7, 2019 11:45AM)
Please please PLEASE port this over to Android. PRETTY PLEASE!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (Mar 13, 2019 02:03PM)
[quote]On Mar 7, 2019, Matty Freakin Whipple wrote:
Please please PLEASE port this over to Android. PRETTY PLEASE!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏 [/quote]

I agree!! Pleeeaasseeeeeeeeeeee
Message: Posted by: Magiroy (Mar 15, 2019 05:25PM)
Any update on languages? E.g. Dutch?
Message: Posted by: magicmarcuk (Mar 15, 2019 05:28PM)
[quote]On Mar 15, 2019, Magiroy wrote:
Any update on languages? E.g. Dutch? [/quote]

Yes - WikiTest is fully performable in Dutch..!

It works in English, French, German, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, Swedish, Portuguese and Norwegian.

These were no easy feats; language takes a lot of work and is carefully constructed for the effect to fully work as best as it can.
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Apr 8, 2019 04:20AM)
BTW. if I work for a client that speaks another language, is it possible to switch to the needed language (for example from English to German) and also back again for another gig?