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Topic: Riser Mini Cups
Message: Posted by: richardl (Mar 30, 2004 01:24PM)
Hi everyone

I just received my James Riser Mini Cups. One word amazing. This is a nice set of cups.
Cant wait to really start working with them.

Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Mar 31, 2004 08:50PM)
These are delightful cups, indeed. I have a set of them, too. If these are the cups you were thinking of cleaning, follow Jim's advice and let them acquire a natural patina.

BTW, a regulation handball makes a great final load in these. There are also miniature tennis balls that you can get at pet stores that work very well.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Mar 31, 2004 08:52PM)
How big a cup do you need to fit one of those puppet mice under?

I figure a computer mouse and a puppet mouse would be really cool loads for a chop-chop cup routine.
Message: Posted by: Lee Brown (Apr 3, 2004 09:47PM)
How about a live mouse? See Cellini's book [i]The Royal Touch.[/i]
Message: Posted by: ImpromptuBoy (Sep 18, 2004 06:57PM)
These Cups are truly beautiful and are for the SERIOUS performer.
I Highly Recommend them.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Sep 18, 2004 09:53PM)
Actually, they are for anyone who has $165.00. They are very nice cups. They will take a handball as a final load. There are also some balls available at pet shops that look like tennis balls, called "Tuff Balls," that are good final loads.

And they will take a small mouse, if you can get him to curl up.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Sep 24, 2004 01:12PM)
Riser Mini cups are perfect for a golf ball finale load.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Sep 27, 2004 01:34PM)
They are even better for a racquetball or a handball. These are larger minis than normal. If you go to the local pet shop, you will find some tennisballs that are called "Tuff Balls." These are perfect for the Riser minis.
Message: Posted by: davidmagic (Nov 21, 2004 08:54AM)
Bill-I know you ownboth and are very C&B knowledgeable-which would you consider the better mini set-the Risers or the RNTs? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Nov 21, 2004 10:34AM)
That's a difficult one to answer. The Riser cups are very nice. So are the RNT II cups. But which one is the best for you will depend on how you are going to carry them. If you are carrying your cups in your jacket pocket, the Risers are a tad heavy.

For strolling in a restaurant -- the Black Beauty or the Black Beauty combo cups. The Black Beauty cups are made of DelrinŽ which is as tough as nails. The Black Beauty combos are made of black anodized aluminum, which is very light.

Sometimes availablility is also a factor. It's a good idea to fondle several different sets before you come up with an answer.
Message: Posted by: NickJegor (Nov 21, 2004 10:35AM)
What actuali those cup's are?
Could you give me a link to read about them!
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Nov 21, 2004 11:55AM)
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Nov 21, 2004 12:35PM)
On 2004-11-21 11:35, NickJegor wrote:
What actuali those cup's are?
Could you give me a link to read about them!

Or you can see all of the ones in question at the cups and balls museum. The link is in my signature block.
Message: Posted by: NickJegor (Nov 21, 2004 01:37PM)
Thanks Bill!
Bill is this your picture!
It's very cool!!! :)
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Nov 21, 2004 02:18PM)
Yep! That's me. Of course when I'm at a formal occasion, I dress up.
Message: Posted by: NickJegor (Nov 21, 2004 02:32PM)
Bill I like your museum!
Thanks again!
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Nov 21, 2004 02:34PM)
Thanks for your kind words.
Message: Posted by: BlackShadow (Jan 1, 2005 07:40PM)
All of the Riser cups look really wonderful but I think he's stopping making the micros so if you want some of them, beter be quick!

The best places to drool over cups on the net are definitley Riser's page and Palmer's C&B Museum.
Message: Posted by: RiserMagic (Jan 2, 2005 02:34AM)
BlackShadow is correct. I am ceasing production of the Riser/Loomis Micro Chop Cups. The few remaining sets will only be available through Dennis Loomis - my partner in this project.

The Riser Mini-Cups are still being made with about a two week waiting period.

BTW: I received some cool images of a special set of custom engraved cups belonging to a pro. I'll be adding these images to my historical cups web pages in the coming week.
Message: Posted by: Dennis Loomis (Jan 2, 2005 03:19PM)
I cherish my special set of the Riser Mini Cups. I actually have 4, and can do the Duvivier Routine where you end up with an extra cup! This is a great routine for the Mini Cups.

Naturally, I also have a set of the Riser Traditionals which I had Gold Plated. A great set for those "larger" situations.

And, of course I have one of Jim's "Ultimate" Chop Cups. I plan to have it Gold Plated as well, but I hate to give it up long enough to get it plated.

Jim is making a final 36 of the Loomis/Riser Micro Chop Cups. At this point, there are only 12 sets that are not on order. So, if you want to get one before they are gone... you should probably not dawdle.

My Web Site URL is below, and you can place orders for the Micro Chops there.

Happy New Year to all.

Long Live Jim Riser. An incredible craftsman, a great partner, and a fine human being!

Dennis Loomis
P.S. Mike Brazill of RNT2 is a long standing friend of mine and his products also get my recommendation. Wish I could afford to just buy everything that Jim and Mike Make. There is no "better" as far as I'm concerned. You must decide what look, weight, size, etc works for you and for the venue's you'll be performing in. You will not go wrong with anything from Jim Riser or Mike Brazill.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jan 2, 2005 03:41PM)
I can second that. I have lots of cups from both of them. Mike, Jim and Brett (Sherwood) have the highest consistent standards of quality of anyone currently manufacturing cups today.

Their work is at least as good as anything that P&L or any of the other legendary makers of the past put out.

I should also add Joe Porper's name to that list. Joe makes consistently high quality products.
Message: Posted by: David French (Jan 2, 2005 06:10PM)
Hello All,

I must also chime in. Both James Riser and Mike Brazill are true craftsmen and business profesionals. I have delt with both and they take the time to work with my needs and have been nothing but pleasant to deal with. Jim is currently working on a custom prop for me and I am very excited and pleased to deal with him.