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Topic: Audio Ape
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Apr 4, 2017 12:02AM)
Has anyone got theirs yet?
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Apr 4, 2017 08:13PM)
The generation II version? They've been delayed.
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Apr 5, 2017 10:36PM)
Yes. Yeah I know. Paid a while back
Message: Posted by: docbarnes (Jul 29, 2017 11:22PM)
Anyone have an update?

Doc
Message: Posted by: gothike (Jul 30, 2017 03:33PM)
Quote:

"All 100 units are built and working 100%. They are also all spoken for except for 4, so if you got your order in on the 2.0 already congrats you are all set :)




I am here to give you the latest full disclosure report. We are making progress every day. It's great to see our team come together and really pour it on. As good as the highs are, we did have a small setback with our 2nd and what we hoped to be our last lab test with Apple Inc this week.

Our 1st test in March showed 9 major errors. We've fixed all of them over a period of about a month and sent the unit back for a second round of testing. To all of my team's surprise, Apple found 2 new errors?! These were super small errors and have zero effect on the performance of our unit. In fact, we fixed them in less than 24 hours. Even though we fixed these fast, we have to go through testing for the 3rd time. They have to check that we've done the corrections properly. That means we have to go to the back of the testing line... again :(


Every time we send in for testing it's usually about a 2-3 week wait plus the large $$$ test fees we pay Apple. As you can see 3 tests can cost an amazing amount of time in our shipping timeline, it's been the main offender in our delays.

We are closer than ever and your unit is just waiting, already built in CA. Just gotta get Apple to clear these last 2 small issues with us, it's going to happen. I will not let up until these 2.0 Apes are where they belong... in our customer's hands.

Thanks for your support through these final touches."""
Message: Posted by: Lou Hilario (Jul 30, 2017 05:33PM)
I have the first version, been using it in all my shows, works perfect every time. The remote is good and accurate even at a far distance. I didn't take the upgrade as I am already satisfied enough for my purpose.
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Aug 1, 2017 11:19PM)
I still haven't got mine either. I bought it for the summer months now they are almost over. Its been a very long time and I paid up front. Is he going to give us a big discount for the long wait?
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Aug 5, 2017 04:08PM)
Its been about 7 or 8 months will this be old technology when I get it?
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Aug 8, 2017 12:03AM)
Does anyone here know answer to these questions
Message: Posted by: docbarnes (Aug 8, 2017 02:17PM)
Yes, when I ordered I did not realize they were not ready to ship, but I received an email relating shipping in July. Still nothing yet and besides the above post I have not received any info.

I would like it for my run of shows in October.
Doc
Message: Posted by: gothike (Aug 8, 2017 06:08PM)
The July 20th update says it was being sent to Apple for round 3 of testing. That takes 2-3 weeks and a bunch of money.

If Cleared they will ship. Cross your fingers.

If Apple finds another issue then its Round 4, another 2-3 weeks of testing and a bunch of money.

Audio Ape is under the mercy of Apple and Apple could care less about a bunch of magicians.
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Aug 8, 2017 11:56PM)
I didn't know all this was happening. I thought I was getting a product. I am just glad I do shows all year round. I think that we should all get an extra remote. Or something?
Message: Posted by: docbarnes (Aug 29, 2017 12:50PM)
Any updates on how things are going with the tests?
Doc
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Aug 29, 2017 11:10PM)
No but my season is over now for the Resort shows. Now have only one Resort Show, 3 nights at the Comedy Club and all the other nights at Angelo's.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Sep 7, 2017 10:55AM)
I saw a post on Facebook today, about the current status of Audio Ape. Hopefully this link works for others.

http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=6d0c0c64967712dd36428a7a6&id=17c2a70af5

I don't have one on order, but it's something I've been looking at.

- Donald
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Sep 7, 2017 02:34PM)
Thanks Donald
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Sep 24, 2017 01:41PM)
Audio Ape sound like it is an admired product. I am curious why those that ordered in advance would do so when the item does not have a track record? I mean $600 is a bit steep for just an audio remote control. I am sure I am missing something in why it costs to make. I would like to read reviews on any piece of electronics I buy and would like the knowledge that it is road tested and the product holds up. I mean they are already on V2 and was V1 even out for more than a year yes?

I have seen may control systems come and go in the last 10 years that cant be replaced or fixed. So what made you take the leap of faith?
Message: Posted by: docbarnes (Sep 25, 2017 09:20PM)
Mine arrived today.
Very excited.

Doc
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Sep 25, 2017 10:21PM)
Very easy to set up. Great product used it tonight. The only thing I don't like is that I need a power supply to make it work. With my other other remote I just plug it into my iPad pro and go. No other power needed. But, the ape controlled my iPad with no problem. I will be trying it out more. Thanks for a great remote!
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Sep 27, 2017 05:55PM)
Michael, Just get yourself a battery phone bank and you wonít need AC. Hereís what I bought (it's no longer available but youíll see what Iím talking about): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009USAJCC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Sep 27, 2017 06:08PM)
[quote]On Sep 24, 2017, Powermagic wrote:
Audio Ape sound like it is an admired product. I am curious why those that ordered in advance would do so when the item does not have a track record? I mean $600 is a bit steep for just an audio remote control. I am sure I am missing something in why it costs to make. I would like to read reviews on any piece of electronics I buy and would like the knowledge that it is road tested and the product holds up. I mean they are already on V2 and was V1 even out for more than a year yes?

I have seen may control systems come and go in the last 10 years that cant be replaced or fixed. So what made you take the leap of faith? [/quote]

They went to V2 because they sold out of V1 and they wanted to make improvements. My V1 worked very reliably for 1 1/2 years (I was an early adopter of V1) but I went ahead and did the upgrade. Most of the improvements are unseen as they have to do with protecting the electronics and the improved power management. The V2 also adds an additional command to the center button if you use OneTrack or Go Button.

I've used 5 different remote systems over the years, including three Virtual Soundman units, and the Audio Ape Remote is the best Iíve used. It's extremely reliable and I have total confidence that it works like itís supposed to.
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Sep 27, 2017 10:22PM)
Thanks Michael
Message: Posted by: Lou Hilario (Sep 28, 2017 07:07PM)
I also own the V1 version and have been using it for more than a year now. I didn't bother to upgrade as it serves my purpose and it never failed me. I use mine with Show Cues app.
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Sep 29, 2017 09:06AM)
[quote]On Sep 27, 2017, Michael Messing wrote:

I've used 5 different remote systems over the years, including three Virtual Soundman units, and the Audio Ape Remote is the best Iíve used. It's extremely reliable and I have total confidence that it works like itís supposed to. [/quote]

Well it seems you are already preconditioned to spending a high dollar on audio remotes.
Now your statement is not accurate if you are speaking about the new version. There is no track record for V2 yet. The past version can not be used for future versions since if they modified the board.

Many commercial products have this happen. And sometimes companies don't find issues until tests are done by the masses.


So I was just curious about the mindset of early adopters, especially if the had the first one.

PS they should have silent buttons. The beauty in self control is they don't see or hear anyone running the music. That click might give some confidence but for that price,it would be one of the main reasons I would not buy this.
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Sep 29, 2017 10:39AM)
[quote]On Sep 29, 2017, Powermagic wrote:
[quote]On Sep 27, 2017, Michael Messing wrote:

I've used 5 different remote systems over the years, including three Virtual Soundman units, and the Audio Ape Remote is the best Iíve used. It's extremely reliable and I have total confidence that it works like itís supposed to. [/quote]

Well it seems you are already preconditioned to spending a high dollar on audio remotes.
Now your statement is not accurate if you are speaking about the new version. There is no track record for V2 yet. The past version can not be used for future versions since if they modified the board.

Many commercial products have this happen. And sometimes companies don't find issues until tests are done by the masses.


So I was just curious about the mindset of early adopters, especially if the had the first one.

PS they should have silent buttons. The beauty in self control is they don't see or hear anyone running the music. That click might give some confidence but for that price,it would be one of the main reasons I would not buy this. [/quote]

The click is very faint and it can't be heard unless someone is standing right next to you. It certainly can't be heard when have music playing. It's more of a feel thing, which makes me know the button has been pressed properly. (It took practice to get the feel for pressing the buttons for the Virtual Soundman remotes, while the Audio Ape remote took very little to get used to.) These days, I do my share of birthday parties so my audience is close to me and I've never had someone say they noticed my remote. Even at a distance of three feet, the kids usually ask me how I'm starting and stopping my music.

My reference to it the Audio Ape Remote being reliable was for the V1 but I fully expect the V2 unit to be just as reliable but can't say that it is yet. I did use the Audio Ape 2.0 for a show on Sunday and it worked exactly as I expected it to. I had tested it thoroughly before doing so. I am not "are already preconditioned to spending a high dollar on audio remotes." I am preconditioned on controlling my music remotely, doing it successfully, and making my show the best I can. I make my living as a performer and, if a device is going to make my show run more smoothly and more effectively, I make an appropriate investment. I've spent as little as $25 for an RF remote system in the 80s that only started and stopped my audio cassette deck by turning the power on and off on the deck to nearly $1,000 for my first Virtual Soundman unit (which was the least expensive remote system being sold at that time that had the features I wanted.) When I decided to go away from MiniDisc, I went to a simple iPod Nano and a $35 iJet Remote. (I put silent tracks between my performance music and let the silent tracks play in the background between music tracks.) The iJet Remote was reasonably reliable, although I did have a few times it let me down. It, also, did not give me the option of fading my music.

Once music apps, like Show Cues and OneTrack started appearing, I switched to using OneTrack with an iPod Touch and and the iJet remote. Again, it was reasonably reliable but I made sure my iPod Touch was close enough to me when performing that I could get to it to start and stop the music if the iJet failed. I bought the Audio Ape v1 when it was offered at the beginning because they offered a money back guarantee, the features offered were what I wanted and the price was much lower for the pre-sale. It delivered on everything I expected. I did the v2 upgrade because of the assurances that improvements had been made and I would have a much lower net cost on the V2 than the selling price. (When you upgrade, you are able to send the V1 receiver back for a rebate. It currently is a $200 rebate but it was more during the initial offering.) In addition, I get to keep the original remote trigger (which is the same as the V2 one) and the original antenna and cables. I planned on buying a spare remote from the beginning so this took care of it. The accessories I get to keep are worth about $150 if I had to buy them separately.

I've seen remotes systems that are very basic and inexpensive, like the iJet, to pretty expensive, like Kerry Pollock's Show Tech which was more than I needed and more than I wanted to spend. Each individual has to decide what features they want in a remote system and how much they're willing to pay for it. If you want to wait for reviews on V2, I certainly can't blame you (although you couldn't get one immediately anyway as the first 100 were pre-sold so you would have to wait for the next batch). Both when buy V1 and V2, I took advantage of special pricing that was only available when first announced.
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Sep 29, 2017 08:57PM)
The answer still is there is no proven track record or longevity of V2. You cant just assume anything at this point. So it worked for you last show that does not mean something they put on the new board holds up after the warranty. If you want to be honest, you have to admit that until the same model of ANY electronics is out and tested by the masses, there is no real way to know. I am not saying it is a bad product rather just curious about the blind faith to pre pay allot of money for something untested. I will wait to see how it fairs in 6 months to a year. I can wait.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Sep 30, 2017 11:12AM)
I'm not an Audio Ape customer (yet), but I will make this observation.

Their products have gone through a testing and approval phase with Apple themselves. This is why it took so long to actually send the products to customers. (In fact, I recall reading posts on Facebook from Audio Ape, where they said there was a back and forth process of 3 tests and corrections involved before they could send out their current product.)

So to say that it's "something untested" is not really accurate.

From a recent link I posted, this quote is from the Audio Ape website:

[quote]We are past all design and testing FCC, CE, and Apple for all our products. We are going to be a steady supplier from here on out.[/quote]

I'd encourage those who are skeptical to read through their Facebook posts: https://www.facebook.com/audioaperemote/

- Donald

P.S. There were posts back on the first page (of this thread) talking about all of the testing going on with the new product.
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Sep 30, 2017 08:05PM)
Power magic. Some of just have money to spend with all the money that we make performing magic. That's my reason. Now the real reason my friends saw the first version at a magic convention said looked and worked great. I called the guy he had great peoples skills so I took the chance. I have always used my professional iPad and remote from show cues never ever had a problem. I wanted a back up. And who know my even sell it. Hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Oct 7, 2017 12:01PM)
Thanks Bairfoot
Donald. I think some are missing the point. Apple does not test EACH unit.Now Audio Ape is growing, If they produce too many they might not put each one through their paces. Just think of the electronic industry as a whole. You never got a bad product you had to return to the store to exchange? I think the point some are missing is that regardless if a product is in the hands and works well . I like at least 90 days and get some real road test reports on V2 NOT V1. Many top certified devices are still have a failure rate or don't live up to claims. basing claims on what the previous version did is not smart shopping. I think every major show control device that came out last 10 years eventually had issues and many are no longer made.

I do hope it is a wonderful product that does the job.

Keep the reviews coming in after 3-6, and 12 months of pro use. I look foward to reading them.
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Oct 7, 2017 09:55PM)
You welcome Power. Very good post!
Message: Posted by: Ray Pierce (Jan 2, 2018 05:55PM)
I have been using V2 for several months and has been perfect so far. I had been using an iJet but in my main performance space, the location of my audio gear is close to a large transformer and it became intermittent at best. even standing 6 feet away is just wasn't consistent. The Audio Ape V2 seems bullet proof for my needs. Yes, it was more expensive but worth it for my peace of mind. I usually use this system for my smaller shows but use a laptop for my theater shows as I have more advanced needs including DMX and MIDI outputs. I'll probably be adding his Media Monkey laptop remote soon.
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Jan 2, 2018 08:49PM)
I have used my audio ape once worked great. I still using Show cues. Might be selling it.
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Jan 2, 2018 09:50PM)
[quote]On Jan 2, 2018, Ray Pierce wrote:
I have been using V2 for several months and has been perfect so far. I had been using an iJet but in my main performance space, the location of my audio gear is close to a large transformer and it became intermittent at best. even standing 6 feet away is just wasn't consistent. The Audio Ape V2 seems bullet proof for my needs. Yes, it was more expensive but worth it for my peace of mind. I usually use this system for my smaller shows but use a laptop for my theater shows as I have more advanced needs including DMX and MIDI outputs. I'll probably be adding his Media Monkey laptop remote soon. [/quote]

Same here. I've had no problems with mine whatsoever. I'm running it off a battery bank (I did have to buy one that has a USC-C port).
Message: Posted by: makulit974 (Nov 19, 2018 12:42AM)
Hi
Does audio ape have an ankle controller?
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Nov 19, 2018 08:13AM)
[quote]On Nov 19, 2018, makulit974 wrote:
Hi
Does audio ape have an ankle controller? [/quote]

At one point, he made a limited number of them. I recommend contacting Audio Ape to see if any are left or if there are any plans to make more.
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Nov 25, 2018 04:54PM)
Does anyone here know why the music comes out so low when I use the Audio Ape. The theatre I do shows at really has to push their volume up. Thanks
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Nov 25, 2018 05:01PM)
[quote]On Nov 25, 2018, Bairefoot wrote:
Does anyone here know why the music comes out so low when I use the Audio Ape. The theatre I do shows at really has to push their volume up. Thanks [/quote]

Are you using it with a DI box to go to an XLR cable for connecting to their system? If not, are you using the 1/8Ē cable directly from the Audio Ape?
Message: Posted by: Bairefoot (Nov 25, 2018 08:22PM)
Thanks for calling me Michael. YOU know your stuff. Thank you.
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Nov 25, 2018 08:26PM)
My pleasure.
Message: Posted by: w_s_anderson (Mar 9, 2019 02:11AM)
I recently purchased an audio ape remote. I had been playing with it for a few weeks before I got the chance to use it. Tonight was the first night. At the gig I set up my EV Evolve sound system, hooked it up, sound checked it, everything was good to go......then at showtime it was frozen. I turned off my iPad and unplugged the audio ape then got them both on and still it was frozen. I couldnít freaking believe it!!. Fortunately the remote still controls your playlists on the iPad itself.

Has this happened to anyone?
Message: Posted by: w_s_anderson (Mar 9, 2019 01:35PM)
User error on my part!! Audio Ape contacted me this morning and helped me out! I am so impressed by this device and by them. Especially reaching out on a Saturday!! Thank you so much guys!!
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Mar 9, 2019 10:41PM)
[quote]On Mar 9, 2019, w_s_anderson wrote:
User error on my part!! Audio Ape contacted me this morning and helped me out! I am so impressed by this device and by them. Especially reaching out on a Saturday!! Thank you so much guys!! [/quote]
So what were you doing wrong? ???