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Topic: Expansion Alakazam
Message: Posted by: rowland (May 11, 2017 02:13AM)
Apologies if there is already a thread on this but I couldn't see one.
Looks nice just wonder how invisible the gimmick is.
Anyone have this care to comment.
Here is the link https://www.alakazam.co.uk/product-Expansion-RED-by-Daniel-Bryan-and-Dave-Loosley-.html
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (May 11, 2017 03:59AM)
I have ordered in Red.
Will let you know.
Message: Posted by: TuneHV (May 11, 2017 07:19AM)
I have it... it's very good. Very visual and I love the routine as it really justifies why the hole expands.

The quality of the gimmick blew me away... it's definitely invisible. When I took it out of the package, I couldn't see anything suspicious and I was staring right at it (and I have the Red version which are typically worse). I have no idea how Rob Bromley made this so good.

Highly recommend.

Check out Craig Petty's review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUWou_h2YiM
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (May 11, 2017 08:14AM)
Cool idea
Message: Posted by: Magicalos (May 11, 2017 10:13AM)
[quote]On May 11, 2017, TuneHV wrote:
I have it... it's very good. Very visual and I love the routine as it really justifies why the hole expands.

The quality of the gimmick blew me away... it's definitely invisible. When I took it out of the package, I couldn't see anything suspicious and I was staring right at it (and I have the Red version which are typically worse). I have no idea how Rob Bromley made this so good.

Highly recommend.

Check out Craig Petty's review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUWou_h2YiM [/quote]


i got this early from alakazam as part of being vip, mines also the red version nearly invisible! I wish all gimmicks could be made like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cant rave enough about the quality. routine is great fools people. 5/5 would recommend!
Message: Posted by: Ross W (May 11, 2017 10:32AM)
I kinda like this, but there is no way, in a casual situation, I'm going to walk around with a hole-punch.

What about if you had a small bunch of hole-punched cards. "This is what casinos do to cards after they've been used, so that you can't use them again," sort of thing. DO you think that would work?
Message: Posted by: kieronthemighty (May 11, 2017 10:59AM)
[quote]On May 11, 2017, Ross W wrote:
I kinda like this, but there is no way, in a casual situation, I'm going to walk around with a hole-punch.

What about if you had a small bunch of hole-punched cards. "This is what casinos do to cards after they've been used, so that you can't use them again," sort of thing. DO you think that would work? [/quote]

I don't see why not I think it just someing a littel different.
Message: Posted by: rjs (May 11, 2017 11:24AM)
I've never been interested in any trick that involves mysterious holes moving , stretching and vanishing on a playing card.

Hole punchers do not excite me.

I cannot relate to these anomalous orifices.

I have no idea why this sub-genre exists!
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (May 11, 2017 12:17PM)
[quote]On May 11, 2017, rjs wrote:
I've never been interested in any trick that involves mysterious holes moving , stretching and vanishing on a playing card.

Hole punchers do not excite me.

I cannot relate to these anomalous orifices.

I have no idea why this sub-genre exists! [/quote]

Why bother posting?
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (May 11, 2017 12:47PM)
Hi Guys,

Thank you for the comments. This is what Craig Petty had to say in his review.

https://youtu.be/VUWou_h2YiM

I hope this helps

Peter Nardi
Message: Posted by: stookie31 (May 11, 2017 12:58PM)
I've got this, it's totally awesome and better in real life than on the vids.
gimmick is, as expected with Rob Bromley, the best quality I've ever seen in a gimmick of this kind.
Message: Posted by: On The Offbeat (May 11, 2017 01:56PM)
[quote]On May 11, 2017, Ross W wrote:
I kinda like this, but there is no way, in a casual situation, I'm going to walk around with a hole-punch.

What about if you had a small bunch of hole-punched cards. "This is what casinos do to cards after they've been used, so that you can't use them again," sort of thing. DO you think that would work? [/quote]

Ross, I don't yet own this so there may be an aspect I'm overlooking but I think having some cards pre-punched is a great idea. Could possibly be used to ring in the gimmick as well.
As a side note there are hole punches available which are very tiny if you go that route.
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (May 11, 2017 02:14PM)
Yes, saw this little hole punch!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Baumgartens-BAU20270-Mini-Punch-Assorted-Colors/dp/B001KVRHFO

sleepy
Message: Posted by: pawel (May 11, 2017 02:51PM)
How big should the hole be? https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00H7RCHHI/ref=pd_aw_fbt_201_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9JTXYRKZS8GET5059E9Z
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 11, 2017 09:13PM)
I believe 1/4" is the standard size in the US so it is probably very close to that.
Don't think it needs to be an exact match, just close enough to not be noticeably different.

Sleepy, that hole punch looks like the one I have (well, actually I have a few of them.)
Message: Posted by: brainman (May 12, 2017 12:38AM)
How durable is the gimmick?
Thanks
Message: Posted by: stookie31 (May 12, 2017 01:13AM)
[quote]On May 12, 2017, brainman wrote:
How durable is the gimmick?
Thanks [/quote]

Very very durable, its very well made and it will last a long time.
I have performed its over the last three weekends, about 100 times.
Along with playing with it to practise.

The gimmick still looks as it did when I bought it.
Message: Posted by: Magic KL (May 12, 2017 12:03PM)
Does that mean red and blue are equally good?
Message: Posted by: stookie31 (May 12, 2017 12:16PM)
[quote]On May 12, 2017, Magic KL wrote:
Does that mean red and blue are equally good? [/quote]

I would say so, though for me red make it easier to see whats going on.
in terms of presentation not method.
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 17, 2017 06:27PM)
Have to chime in and say that Expansion is absolutely incredible. Rob Bromley has outdone himself with a beautifully constructed gimmick.
If you have seen Craig Petty's review, I agree with everything he says. Dave Loosley's addition of a presentation that actually makes sense moves it beyond quick eye candy.
I am going to order a second in the other color, that's how much I like it. It's something different in a card trick and very visual, and there's no way you could replicate it with SOH and have it look so clean.

I'm toying with the idea of making a new deck for Chatelain's Card on Ribbon (with holes that match Expansion) and using them together. Plus, I think I like the idea of using a deck with holes in the cards as they just add more interest and you can perform most any standard effects and the holes don't hinder you.

Anyway, I recently ordered Triple C and if I like that deck half as much as I like Expansion then I will be a very happy camper.
Expansion is great and I would highly recommend it. Nice job all around from Alakazam, they really hit this one out of the park.
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (May 17, 2017 09:45PM)
[quote]On May 11, 2017, rjs wrote:
I've never been interested in any trick that involves mysterious holes moving , stretching and vanishing on a playing card.

Hole punchers do not excite me.

I cannot relate to these anomalous orifices.

I have no idea why this sub-genre exists! [/quote]

Then why you come to this forum????? Leave we don't care
Message: Posted by: reignofsound (May 18, 2017 04:09AM)
Put mine up for sale on Magicweek.
Gimmick is great but I don't feel comfortable with the handling of it.
Dave makes it look great but in my hands it does not.
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 18, 2017 01:04PM)
Reignofsound, I had a similar issue initially. I suspect Dave Loosley has much larger hands than I do so it took some experimenting to work out a handling. I find that I need to use my other hand to help position the card and conceal the gaff at the outset. But I don't feel this hurts the effect at all.
For me, it would have been helpful if the hole were positioned a little further down the length of the card towards the center. My left thumb is not quite long enough to reach where it needs to be comfortably while still holding the deck in the same hand (which is necessary IMO) so I needed to work out a modification.

Also, flicking the card to cause the slot to jump back to a hole took a little work and more description on exactly how to do this would have been helpful too. But again, because I have rather small hands I probably have less margin of error than others might. But I realize it's difficult to cover every possible scenario and as with many effects, you have to figure out what works for you so overall this is small point and I wouldn't mark down the video for not going into more detail in some of these areas.

As I said in a previous post, I really love this effect and the gaff is ingenious and extremely well made, and NO arts & crafts are needed-YAY!
Message: Posted by: TuneHV (May 18, 2017 01:09PM)
I agree that bigger hands will help cover your angles, but nothing you can't work around. I personally found the flick heal a little knacky, but again all resolved with a little practice. Highly recommend this one.
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (May 18, 2017 01:59PM)
You can hold the gaff in a biddle grip and flick forward with the right hand. I find this looks as good and is more certain than the finger flick on the end.
Message: Posted by: AceFace (May 18, 2017 04:09PM)
This is a great effect...visually it is awesome, the only problem I have is in the handling. My hand is just not big enough to do it as dave does in the explanation this means I have to put the deck down whilst I show the effect, problem is then how do you justify picking the deck up again and placing the card back on the deck before you hand them their card back. If your hands are big enough to retain the deck in your hand whilst you perform the trick then it is almost natural to place it back on the deck...any ides ?????
Message: Posted by: videoman (May 18, 2017 04:35PM)
AceFace, first I'd really work on developing a handling where you can hold the deck while using the gimmick as I agree it makes the trick flow much smoother and easier.
Maybe try using your right forefinger to reveal the long hole while holding the card and deck in your left similar to a rub a dub vanish.
If you absolutely have to set the deck down then perhaps performing it just a few inches above the deck and then letting the card immediately drop onto the deck, pick everything up and proceed. Not ideal but it may work.
Seems like there must be a way to allow you to hold the deck while doing it. I have similar issues to you and had to modify the handling from what Dave does.
Message: Posted by: TopJimmy (Jun 10, 2017 02:23PM)
Anybody have a problem with the gimmick breaking? Seems like mine doesn't always flick back into the proper position. Not sure if anyone would know how to fix it.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Jun 10, 2017 03:31PM)
[quote]On May 18, 2017, Xcath1 wrote:
You can hold the gaff in a biddle grip and flick forward with the right hand. I find this looks as good and is more certain than the finger flick on the end. [/quote]

The only problem with that technique is there is a sound issue.
The flicking covers the sound naturally, or provides a reason for it.
Just waving the card and hearing a snap looks very odd to me.
Of course if you're in loud environments it doesn't matter but I rarely am.
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (Jun 10, 2017 11:15PM)
I say "and the hole snaps back"
Message: Posted by: drstevemagic (Jun 13, 2017 10:49PM)
Seems like there's a "hole" lot of magic coming out. Anyone care to comment about "Cartoon Capers?"

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/8562
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jun 14, 2017 12:31AM)
[quote]On Jun 13, 2017, drstevemagic wrote:
Seems like there's a "hole" lot of magic coming out. Anyone care to comment about "Cartoon Capers?"

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/8562 [/quote]

Indeed. Use the Hole of your vision to spot the thread that's been running for days now.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=643707&forum=218
Message: Posted by: drstevemagic (Jun 14, 2017 01:10AM)
[quote]On Jun 14, 2017, pegasus wrote:
[quote]On Jun 13, 2017, drstevemagic wrote:
Seems like there's a "hole" lot of magic coming out. Anyone care to comment about "Cartoon Capers?"

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/8562 [/quote]

Indeed. Use the Hole of your vision to spot the thread that's been running for days now.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=643707&forum=218 [/quote]


Been following that one from the start. Was asking if any "Expansion" homies had any comparative thoughts on the two effects, other than the obvious differences in the props.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jun 14, 2017 01:38AM)
Oh I see. Apologies. I'm trying to think of the effect where the w(hole) of the deck ends up with a large hole going through. Looks awesome and wish I'd bought it back then.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Jun 14, 2017 06:11AM)
[quote]On Jun 14, 2017, pegasus wrote:
Oh I see. Apologies. I'm trying to think of the effect where the w(hole) of the deck ends up with a large hole going through. Looks awesome and wish I'd bought it back then. [/quote]


This one by Marc Arthur? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp1FSXOsR3M

Me too!
Message: Posted by: Alex DLF (Aug 18, 2017 11:10PM)
Expansion Ė Dave Loosley and Daniel Bryan

Product description : I recently reviewed Fortuity which was a very good trick in my opinion and here we are again with another Alakazam Magic product, this one is Expansion by Daniel Bryan and Dave Loosley. The idea here is pretty simple, itís more like a bar bet than a magic trick, thatís what you could think at first. You show a card with a hole on it (or let them select a card and punch a hole) and ask them if they think it is possible to pass a coin straight through this hole. Of course, they will say no, you take the card, you stretch the hole, put the coin through it and put the hole right back in place in a very visual way ! Coin and card can now be examined.

Price and where to buy it : This is sold at $30 and you can find it in nearly every Murphy's magic ę partner Ľ shop !

What you get : You get a little cardboard DVD sleeve, very well printed, I do like the artwork that has been done on it ! Inside, youíll find an actual DVD, it was the same with Fortuity, maybe Alakazam did understand the fact many people do prefer DVD over online video ? Anyway, the video is well made, as you would expect from this company and everything is nicely taught. Youíre also supplied with the gimmick which is made by Rob Bromley, the guy who I consider to be the best gimmick maker in the world, and this may be his finest creation/ The gimmick is INVISIBLE, itís one of the best Iíve ever seen, I chose a red one and itís still as undetectable as it should be. Iím really impressed by this, itís a piece of art ! Overall, for the price asked, you get a wonderfully made gimmick as well as a nice DVD, not disappointed at all.

Teaser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGRTOV-VyLE

The pros and the cons : Here is the core of my review, let's begin with the cons, as I will usually be doing, I prefer to keep the good things for the end.

THE CONS :
Ė You have to carry a gimmick in your deck, so it has to be added during the course of your routine or doing this effect first (even if I donít think this is a good starter).
Ė You have to carry a card with a hole punched in it or carry a hole puncher, in both case, itís not very practical.
Ė One of the side of the ďslotĒ is squared when the other one is rounded, I donít know why they didnít do it rounded too..

THE PROS :
Ė The visuals on this are insane ! This is like a cartoon, you have an ACME Hole and you can stretch it to turn it into a slot very easily and visually. And of course, the moment the hole snaps back into place is just gorgeous.
Ė The gimmick is the best one Iíve ever seen of its kind, you just canít see the construction line, it is virtually invisible. I was afraid the colour red would led to a more visible gimmick but you can hold it in daylight 10 cm from spectators eyes and they wouldnít see a thing ! Kudos to Rob Bromley who did an amazing work on this.
Ė Itís very easy to do, you just have to do a double lift and you can do both the setup and clean up ! So you can completely focus on your routine and presentation.
Ė I like the fact it begins like a bar bet and turns into a very magical moment, it completely throws off the spectators.
Ė Itís not that expensive for a gimmick which is that well made, I can tell you a lot of time and work have been put into this.
Ė The card can be left as a souvenir at the end, so people will remember what you did ! I do think itís an amazing souvenir, which will led to conversations and people telling how you managed to stretch that hole.

Overall rating : If you like the visuals of this, you canít be disappointed with the material you receive, this is a very cool routine which will fit into many pro and amateur set, still not sure whether I would use it on a daily basis but I really really liked it ! 3.5/4 hearts.

As for the difficulty level, as I said, a double lift is the only sleight you need, I would say 2/5 stars.

Similar products : Such routine which allows you to do a very visual cartoon move are not very common, Hollow 2.0 by Menny Lindenfeld could be an idea.

If you liked this review, make sure to check all my other ones on my website : http://lesavisdalexis.wixsite.com