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Topic: Cabinet illusion with disappearing torso?
Message: Posted by: nloding (Oct 18, 2017 09:52AM)
Another bizarre question from me, but not "controversial" like my last one about sword boxes! I'm curious if anyone knows of a cabinet illusion where the magician or assistant is placed in the cabinet, then a section is opened to reveal that part of the person missing. For instance, think Zig Zag Girl but instead of sliding the box to the side, a door is opened on the middle box and you can see right through (or just to an all black interior... either way, no torso). I'm on the hunt for some specific illusions, would be amazing if there were plans for something like readily available rather than me having to design from scratch (which I'm not good at) or commission something ($$$$$).
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 18, 2017 10:21AM)
Google "Girl without a Middle Illusion" (aka Disembodied Princess Illusion). That's one illusion that fits your description.

http://www.illusionrepository.com/repository/disembodied-princess/

One source for plans:

http://hamiltonholtinc.stores.yahoo.net/girwitmid.html

Also, there are illusion building companies out there, so you don't have to build it yourself. Some are discussed on this thread:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=148754&forum=7

- Donald
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 18, 2017 11:02AM)
I think that Jim Steinmeyer's "Three-Space Mystery" (Illusion) might also fit your description.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=367504

FYI, there's a used one for sale right now, listed on the Stevens Magic website.

And Peter May's "Slice of Magic" (Illusion) might also fit your description, although the box isn't upright during this routine.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=636992

- Donald
Message: Posted by: nloding (Oct 18, 2017 01:33PM)
Donald - thanks for the links. The "Girl without a Middle" is the closest, but the fake bits would be obviously fake in the performance I have in mind. Ideally the person in the box could react to the middle being revealed as missing, like in the Zig Zag Girl. "Girl without a Middle" may be a decent compromise.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 18, 2017 01:56PM)
Maybe you're actually looking for is Chuck Jones' "Mismade Girl" (Illusion), which doesn't have a vanish of the person's torso, but a mix up of their body parts.

A lot of the time, that is presented with the assistant reacting to themselves being found mismade (for comedy).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7QGNoO9F14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBdWWA_mN-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dFefihhXVY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVImXfS0upw

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BTW, another illusion that has the assistant reacting to what's happened to themselves is "Twister". Again, no vanish of their torso, but a change to their body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbTQaJELGeE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR25g7Q192k

- Donald

P.S. On more tip. You might find what you're looking for, in the plans that Osborne Illusion Systems offers. They offer individual plans as well as books of plans. Take a look at their website (here is the page for their illusion plans, which has illustrations of the illusions).

http://hamiltonholtinc.stores.yahoo.net/plans1.html

For example, maybe you're looking for a sideshow illusion, like this one -- Seeing Through a Woman:

http://hamiltonholtinc.stores.yahoo.net/seeinthrougw.html
Message: Posted by: nloding (Oct 18, 2017 02:39PM)
That's a lot of links to parse - thank you! Lots of good info! Mismade Girl is also very close, you just don't get the lovely effect of the hands being visible (though there's apparently a variation on it with body parts visible, though I can't find anything on it beyond a brief mention on Wikipedia of all things).
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Oct 19, 2017 03:55AM)
You are not going to find a custom grand illusion to what you want. If you want something to your liking, then you have to contact an illusion builder, and work with him to get what you want. Bring your charge card with you as well.

There are trade offs in magic just like anything else.
Message: Posted by: john wills (Oct 19, 2017 04:03AM)
Nloding,
If you're searching Wikipedia for information about illusions then you're in the wrong place, even internet/Youtube is not the place to dwell.
Start you're research in illusion books, the history of magic and Hamilton (Osborne illusions) for drawings etc.
Message: Posted by: nloding (Oct 19, 2017 06:29AM)
Bill - it is looking like there isn't an existing illusion that does what I've described, but many that come close. Ultimately I'm hoping I can find something similar enough that I can make a version of it myself, to my liking. If not, I'll definitely be contacting an illusion builder.

John - no, I'm searching Wikipedia for illusions, thanks.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 19, 2017 08:37AM)
Dig around in the Illusion Repository, as well. That site also has many illusions listed on it.

http://www.illusionrepository.com/repository/

Also, here's a website with a list of illusion builders (and links to their websites).

http://illusionbooks.com/list-of-illusion-builders-designers-2/

Although it's missing a few listings like Abbott's Magic, Illusion Arts Magic, etc.

- Donald
Message: Posted by: Murray Hatfield (Nov 15, 2017 05:37PM)
There was something like this called Shadow Vision (Ken Whittaker/Creative Illusions). It was kind of a cross between a Zig Zag and Disembodied Princess where the box is slid to the side but is then opened. You can clearly see the head and legs/feet on one side and the middle on the other. The person is able to react to the displacement of their midsection. It was a clever but awkward illusion.
Message: Posted by: jeffl (Nov 15, 2017 05:49PM)
Let me try here nloding, is the center picture in the lower of the two rows close to what you had in mind? (click it to enlarge)

http://www.sideshowillusions.com/ten-in-one-show.html

Unfortunately I don't have detailed build plans but maybe someone else can come up with something, it's not all that hard to figure out how to make it anyway.