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Topic: Old Style cups and balls
Message: Posted by: mago verza (Nov 23, 2017 09:01PM)
Hello to every body, I am looking for a particular type of cups for my cups and balls routine, I want the cups that were used many years ago in Europe like this:
I am not a collector so also drinking cups or similar cups even in plastic are ok (even if I prefer in metal), I live in Japan and I searched all the shops but they don't have nothing similar to that.
I have the tenyo plastic cups that looks similar but are too small, I want the regular size and that shape, anybody can give me an advise to where I can find something similar?

Thank you
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Nov 24, 2017 06:54AM)
There is a guy selling some Johnny Paul cups in the items for sale area, they have the same look.
For new check out RNT2 as they have a couple of versions. For a cup that looks old there were postings about a guy that worked with tin and made old style looking cups. I think you have to contact him
about the cups used for magic. https://www.etsy.com/shop/TheVillageTinner
Message: Posted by: mago verza (Nov 24, 2017 09:26AM)
About the old look is not so important, is the shape that I care a lot, the Johnny Paul are quite close to the cups I am looking for is only the part around the mouth that is not exactly how I was looking for, I would like to post in the right forum. Thank you very much for taking the time to answer even if I am in the wrong place.
Message: Posted by: dcjames (Nov 27, 2017 01:32PM)
Hi Mago Verza,

I second Tom G's recommendation for the Village Tinner. He makes cups that are exactly the shape you need.

This link will show you a set of his cups sold last year:


I bought a set for my collection although I have never used them in performance.

Hope this helps.


Message: Posted by: lint (Nov 28, 2017 09:01PM)
Bill and I worked extensively with The Village Tinner to get the details just right on his cups. you will not be disappointed.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Woolery (Nov 29, 2017 10:11AM)
I bought a set of cups from Village Tinner. They are excellent work and at a better price than I expected. He offered me bright tinplate, darkened (“antique”) finish, or solid copper. So he was willing to do different options when I bought my cups a few years back.

Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Dec 5, 2017 07:26AM)
Is he still making cups? I emailed a couple of time but never heard from him.

Jake Jr.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Woolery (Dec 9, 2017 01:15PM)
I really don't know, Jake. I hope so. It would be a shame if such cups were not available.

Message: Posted by: trickbooks (Apr 4, 2020 11:01PM)
I just received my set from the Village Tinner via Etsy. They are everything mentioned here . . . and more. Just beautiful. They are larger, more generous and heavier than I expected. Thanks to those of you who contributed ideas to their creation. And for those of you who don’t have a set, consider these. They are a fraction of the price of some of the high-priced sets on the market, and in my view, more interesting. Built on century-old hardware, by hand, they precisely mirror the kind of cups described in classic magic books, like Professor Hoffmann’s Modern Magic.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 5, 2020 11:52PM)
Here's the thing about the Village Tinner cups. They are safe to use. This may appear to be a somewhat foolish or simplistic statement, but Those old magic set cups from France had sharp edges on top. The ones from Village Tinner do not. He came up with two different ways of making them safe. Either one is viable.

Lint was the fellow who got me in touch with him.

I sent the tinner a French magic set cup to use as a model. He made them bigger and safer.