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Topic: Tap Transpo by Smagic Productions
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Jan 2, 2018 02:01PM)
Hey guys,
Smagic comes back with a very visual 2 card transposition.
This looks very easy to do and it really looks great.
Have a look for yourself and tell me what you think about it.

More info:
https://www.murphysmagic.com/product.aspx?id=61293

Best regards,
Titanas
Message: Posted by: Fero (Jan 2, 2018 04:14PM)
This looks too good to be true.
I think I mgonna order it.
Message: Posted by: TuneHV (Jan 2, 2018 04:25PM)
It looks promising but the trailer never shows one of the cards going in the envelope... would be nice to see how natural that looks. The change itself looks great though.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jan 2, 2018 04:47PM)
Looks great from the demo I must admit Tarik 🙂
Message: Posted by: RickVancouver (Jan 3, 2018 12:10AM)
I'm going to wait for the reviews on this one
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (Jan 3, 2018 03:52PM)
Looks good. I sure it works like the WoW gimmick. But I do like the upgrade doing this with a transpo.
Message: Posted by: MadisonH (Jan 3, 2018 04:13PM)
Definitely NOT the wow gimmick lol.

Itís very clever in its method, but thereís going to be a noticeable problem across the middle of the card. Pretty clever, but is it any better than a double lift and dupe? Iím not sure. I think adding the envelopes raises questions in the spectators mind. I guarantee this wonít have as lasting of an impact as Ryan Schlutzís ďIn Air Transpo.Ē

Madison
Message: Posted by: MR Effecto (Jan 3, 2018 07:20PM)
I said it might work like the wow gimmick. Most likely same kind of concept .
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (Jan 3, 2018 07:32PM)
[quote]On Jan 3, 2018, MR Effecto wrote:
I said it might work like the wow gimmick. Most likely same kind of concept . [/quote]

Do you know how the wow gimmick works? It does not look like it works like the wow gimmick at all.

Sleepy
Message: Posted by: MazingMandy (Jan 4, 2018 03:29AM)
[quote]On Jan 2, 2018, Tarik Flash wrote:
Looks great from the demo I must admit Tarik 🙂 [/quote]

Don't all SansMinds demos Gary?
Message: Posted by: SleepyMagic (Jan 4, 2018 05:23AM)
[quote]On Jan 4, 2018, MazingMandy wrote:
[quote]On Jan 2, 2018, Tarik Flash wrote:
Looks great from the demo I must admit Tarik 🙂 [/quote]

Don't all SansMinds demos Gary? [/quote]

This isn't a sansminds release

Sleepy
Message: Posted by: magic11ryan (Jan 4, 2018 07:17AM)
Wonder how practical and clean this looks in a real world
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jan 4, 2018 07:45AM)
[quote]On Jan 4, 2018, MazingMandy wrote:
[quote]On Jan 2, 2018, Tarik Flash wrote:
Looks great from the demo I must admit Tarik 🙂 [/quote]

Don't all SansMinds demos Gary? [/quote]

Itís Gaz actually Mandy but you are right donít they all 🙂
Message: Posted by: MazingMandy (Jan 4, 2018 10:17AM)
[quote]On Jan 4, 2018, SleepyMagic wrote:
[quote]On Jan 4, 2018, MazingMandy wrote:
[quote]On Jan 2, 2018, Tarik Flash wrote:
Looks great from the demo I must admit Tarik 🙂 [/quote]

Don't all SansMinds demos Gary? [/quote]

This isn't a sansminds release

Sleepy [/quote]

Ooops, totally misread that. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jan 4, 2018 11:58AM)
Actually smagic make some good stuff imo Tarik 🙂
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jan 4, 2018 12:28PM)
[quote]On Jan 4, 2018, MazingMandy wrote:
[quote]On Jan 4, 2018, SleepyMagic wrote:
[quote]On Jan 4, 2018, MazingMandy wrote:
[quote]On Jan 2, 2018, Tarik Flash wrote:
Looks great from the demo I must admit Tarik 🙂 [/quote]

Don't all SansMinds demos Gary? [/quote]

This isn't a sansminds release

Sleepy [/quote]

Ooops, totally misread that. Thanks. [/quote]

Oh my.
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Jan 4, 2018 01:01PM)
[quote]On Jan 3, 2018 at 4:52pm, MR Effecto wrote:
I sure it works like the WoW gimmick.[/quote]

[quote]On Jan 3, 2018 at 8:20pm, MR Effecto wrote:
I said it might work like the wow gimmick.[/quote]

Are these forums being used as auditions for White House media staff now? :)
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Jan 4, 2018 01:33PM)
Whatís White House Media staff ? Regards Tarik 🙂
Message: Posted by: sevenup (Jan 4, 2018 03:42PM)
[quote]On Jan 3, 2018, MadisonH wrote:
Definitely NOT the wow gimmick lol.

Itís very clever in its method, but thereís going to be a noticeable problem across the middle of the card. Pretty clever, but is it any better than a double lift and dupe? Iím not sure. I think adding the envelopes raises questions in the spectators mind. I guarantee this wonít have as lasting of an impact as Ryan Schlutzís ďIn Air Transpo.Ē

Madison [/quote]
Maybe I missed something but isn't the card signed? So not a dupe double effect at all. I really like that last spectator reaction holding his head so it doesn't explode.
Message: Posted by: MadisonH (Jan 4, 2018 03:55PM)
[quote]On Jan 4, 2018, sevenup wrote:
[quote]On Jan 3, 2018, MadisonH wrote:
Definitely NOT the wow gimmick lol.

Itís very clever in its method, but thereís going to be a noticeable problem across the middle of the card. Pretty clever, but is it any better than a double lift and dupe? Iím not sure. I think adding the envelopes raises questions in the spectators mind. I guarantee this wonít have as lasting of an impact as Ryan Schlutzís ďIn Air Transpo.Ē

Madison [/quote]
Maybe I missed something but isn't the card signed? So not a dupe double effect at all. I really like that last spectator reaction holding his head so it doesn't explode. [/quote]

I said I think a classic double lift transpo would be just as powerful. Keep in mind, with a traditional double lift transpo, one of the cards can be signed (just like this version with envelopes.)

Madison
Message: Posted by: Ross W (Jan 8, 2018 08:10AM)
There are two tricks recently that achieve more or less this result.

1. The one done by Dynamo on the Lorraine show here n the UK (name, anyone?)
2. Dave Williamson's T&R Transpo

The effect is: you have card A, I have card B, and by magic they swap. Great effect, but - however nice it looks - I'm not sure what the addition of peculiar-looking envelopes brings to the effect in the mind of the spectator.
Message: Posted by: MazingMandy (Jan 8, 2018 11:28AM)
If it was a card transpo trick performed by Dynamo as a TV guest then odds on it'll be French Kiss.
Message: Posted by: mh1001 (Jan 8, 2018 01:07PM)
I think I appreciate the gimmick, as I'm convinced it's exactly the same kind of gimmick as a trick that has been released by N2G and uses envelopes as a way to execute card to impossible location or card transposition (you'll probably find the name of the effect with a little search - N2G has just a few releases, so it won't be hard). However, the effet here isn't really magical, in my opinion. The cards change place after you hit his envelope with yours. Immediately, the attention is drawn toward your action of "hitting" the envelope. If I really wished that the envelopes won't be the focus of attention, I wouldn't do as they show in the video.
Message: Posted by: PaulW (Jan 9, 2018 05:30AM)
This looks amazing, ordered and will post review.
Message: Posted by: TheGreatRaymondo (Jan 9, 2018 10:23AM)
There is an edit in the video at 1.02 for some inexplicable reason?
I'll wait for the reviews on this one and check it out at Blackpool.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Jan 9, 2018 03:10PM)
[quote]On Jan 8, 2018, Ross W wrote:

The effect is: you have card A, I have card B, and by magic they swap. Great effect, but - however nice it looks - I'm not sure what the addition of peculiar-looking envelopes brings to the effect in the mind of the spectator. [/quote]

I would think that the use of the envelopes is to "isolate" the card to make the transpo seem more impossible in the specs eyes? Just my thought....
Message: Posted by: TuneHV (Jan 9, 2018 03:36PM)
[quote]On Jan 9, 2018, RNK wrote:
[quote]On Jan 8, 2018, Ross W wrote:

The effect is: you have card A, I have card B, and by magic they swap. Great effect, but - however nice it looks - I'm not sure what the addition of peculiar-looking envelopes brings to the effect in the mind of the spectator. [/quote]

I would think that the use of the envelopes is to "isolate" the card to make the transpo seem more impossible in the specs eyes? Just my thought.... [/quote]

I agree. I would do a standard two card transpo as a first phase that leads into this. Presentation would be that maybe the spec thinks I used sleight of hand in phase 1, so to eliminate that notion, weíll place each card in an envelope with a window so itís isolated and face up.... seems like a logical progression and helps justify the props.
Message: Posted by: PaulW (Jan 10, 2018 11:36AM)
I have just received the effect and although I have yet to perform it there are a few things you need to know before purchasing it.

1. There is no DVD only a 56 minute download.
2. The first 26 minutes of the download are redundant because they deal with the construction of the envelopes which now come fully constructed which is just as well as it is often difficult to understand the demonstrator.
3. I have issues with the envelopes which arrived slightly curled and may benefit from pressing between heavy books so they lay uniformly flat.
4. The next 20 minutes of the download deals with further required construction which is fiddly and will take some time to get right, you will need a 2 inch wide roll of clear tape along with the usual arts and craft paraphernalia
5. Although the trailer shows a couple of numbered cards you are recommended to use court cards for both the spectator and your own so called favourite card.
6. Once constructed you will have to force the same card every time you do the effect which may be inhibiting for table hoppers and as the card is signed and cannot be used again you will probably need to purchase a one way forcing deck to provide you with stock of the same card.
7. There are no live performances and the demonstration of the effect is poor.

I expect when fully constructed the effect will work but I have a draw full of unconstructed effects and I fear this may well join them.
Message: Posted by: Dave the Knave (Jan 10, 2018 04:45PM)
Thanks for the heads-up, PaulW.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jan 10, 2018 04:55PM)
Classic junk drawer tat.
Message: Posted by: Andrew J. K. (Jan 13, 2018 12:33PM)
[quote]On Jan 10, 2018, PaulW wrote:

(...)
2. The first 26 minutes of the download are redundant because they deal with the construction of the envelopes which now come fully constructed which is just as well as it is often difficult to understand the demonstrator.
3. I have issues with the envelopes which arrived slightly curled and may benefit from pressing between heavy books so they lay uniformly flat.
(...)

Mine also came with the three envelopes already constructed which, like yours, PaulW, arrived more than slightly curled.
Hopefully this can be fixed by pressing them between books as you suggest in your post.

By the way, I would like to ask any of you who own already the effect, to inform me if they received (I do) one spare
m****t and a small rectangular piece of s**m among the three black constructed envelopes.

Finally, did the DVD come sealed (as it happens usual with most of the magic DVD's) with the well known transparent celluloid,
since mine was not sealed with anything.

Any reply at the earliest opportunity would be much appreciated.

Kindest regards,
Andrew
Message: Posted by: PaulW (Jan 14, 2018 09:32AM)
Mine came with the spare m****t and s**M you mentioned both of which are required when constructing the gimmick.

No DVD just a download but if your referring to the DVD case in which the effect is delivered it was not wrapped.

I have now made up the gimmick and I am having real difficulty getting it to work.

In my opinion this is a very poor item only useful for a video shoot as it does not show well in the real world.
Message: Posted by: JackMagic (Jan 14, 2018 10:59AM)
Quote]On Jan 2, 2018, Titanas wrote:
Hey guys,
Smagic comes back with a very visual 2 card transposition.
This looks very easy to do and it really looks great.
Have a look for yourself and tell me what you think about it.

Best regards,
Titanas [/quote]

Once again Titanas pitches another bottom draw junk

[quote]On Jan 10, 2018, PaulW wrote:
I have just received the effect and although I have yet to perform it there are a few things you need to know before purchasing it.

1. There is no DVD only a 56 minute download.
2. The first 26 minutes of the download are redundant because they deal with the construction of the envelopes which now come fully constructed which is just as well as it is often difficult to understand the demonstrator.
3. I have issues with the envelopes which arrived slightly curled and may benefit from pressing between heavy books so they lay uniformly flat.
4. The next 20 minutes of the download deals with further required construction which is fiddly and will take some time to get right, you will need a 2 inch wide roll of clear tape along with the usual arts and craft paraphernalia
5. Although the trailer shows a couple of numbered cards you are recommended to use court cards for both the spectator and your own so called favourite card.
6. Once constructed you will have to force the same card every time you do the effect which may be inhibiting for table hoppers and as the card is signed and cannot be used again you will probably need to purchase a one way forcing deck to provide you with stock of the same card.
7. There are no live performances and the demonstration of the effect is poor.

I expect when fully constructed the effect will work but I have a draw full of unconstructed effects and I fear this may well join them. [/quote]

Maybe Titanas should actually open the package his is pitching before saying "This looks very easy to do and it really looks great."

[quote]On Jan 14, 2018, PaulW wrote:

I have now made up the gimmick and I am having real difficulty getting it to work.

In my opinion this is a very poor item only useful for a video shoot as it does not show well in the real world. [/quote]

Happy New Year thanks for your first 2018 pitch
Message: Posted by: markymarkmagicuk (Jan 19, 2018 05:22AM)
Just watched the demo... looked impressive, but Im guessing the envelopes have a form of M....t involved. As a clue, sticks to bottom! And I bet you don't see performer load his card in his envelope during performance. I love the way promo videos are like expensive Hollywood productions with great cuts and music, they really know how to sell the magic. lol.
Message: Posted by: TuneHV (Jan 22, 2018 12:17AM)
I just received this and... its going right back. I like a lot of S Magic's releases... but this one has a lot of issues.

First the ad copy's claim that the gimmick is fully assembled is a flat out lie. The envelopes are assembled, but that is only part of the gimmick. There is a pretty good amount of DIY to do here. I make gimmicks all the time, so its nothing that was too complicated for me, but it will still take you 20-30 minutes and its absurd that they would make that claim in the ad copy.

As others have said, the envelopes arrive with a bend or curve in them. I think since they are custom made for this effect, the way the glue dries with the plastic see through window causes the ends to bend in. This does not help in selling some key parts of the illusion.

The biggest issue for me though was that it simply does not work reliably. Its possible I got one that was poorly assembled, but I'm confident the DIY I did was not the issue. The idea is clever, but a clever idea needs to be tested repeatedly until its reliable and ready to bring to the market. I gave it many attempts and the success rate was bad enough for me to not have faith in attempting to perform this.
Message: Posted by: PaulW (Mar 4, 2018 07:19AM)
"I just received this and... its going right back. I like a lot of S Magic's releases..."

What magic supplier will allow you to return an effect that you have constructed?..........I will happily switch my purchasing to them.