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Topic: Recommend a packet trick that is somewhat unusual, offbeat, or fun
Message: Posted by: EndersGame (Nov 14, 2018 08:11PM)
I'm looking for a fun packet deck that is a bit off-beat and something different.

So not the usual recommendations (e.g. B'Wave), but something a bit more unusual, ideally with some fun non-standard cards, and which still is strongly magical enough to produce great reactions.

Any suggestions?
Message: Posted by: Emory Kimbrough (Nov 15, 2018 11:24AM)
Gee, I just answered this in the other reply I sent to you a couple of minutes ago - Cameron Francis's "Nothing But the Truth" has lie-detector images on the card backs.

Also, head to Christian Schenk's Card Shark web site (card-shark.de) Under "Online Shop" click on "Vintage Style Effects." There you'll find several answers to inquiry. (A tossed-out tarot. Beautiful butterfly cards. Rorschach Inkblot-Test cards. An effect from Paul Gordon. And more.)
Message: Posted by: EndersGame (Nov 15, 2018 07:35PM)
Love the look of Nothing But The Truth by Cameron Francis - thanks for the suggestion!

[youtube]7Z3tJdDhsa0[/youtube]
Message: Posted by: magicfish (Nov 16, 2018 06:58AM)
Headhunter- Bob Farmer
Trick Kards- Nick Trost
Did You Get the Odd One- Randy Wakeman
Message: Posted by: Rick Holcombe (Nov 16, 2018 07:29AM)
Daryl's "Presto Printo" is always a fun one
Message: Posted by: MagikDavid (Jan 10, 2019 06:00AM)
Highly recommend "CARDTOON" by Dan Harlan. See it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G0mHZ-PBZM
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 10, 2019 08:57AM)
In your first sentence I think you means packet *trick*, EndersGame? I recommend Colombini's "Close Quarters," available on Lybrary. Four quarters drawn on separate cards (you have to draw them yourself on blank cards) assemble, so that now all four are on one card. Then the four quarters are "moved" to another card, where they appear as a drawing of a dollar coin.



Darko on the Café demonstrates his own very effective variant where four quarters turn into a *real* coin.



Bob
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 10, 2019 09:01AM)
MagikDavid, I have to get out my Cardtoon deck again. The handling on the video you referenced is much better than what first learned from the instructional video when I first bought the deck.
Message: Posted by: MagikDavid (Jan 10, 2019 09:31AM)
Bob G - Yeah, I thought the same thing. His handling is less complex than Harlan's original. Seems to fit the criteria that EndersGame was asking for, don't you agree? A little 'off-beat'... something different... visually magical and always gets a great reaction.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 10, 2019 09:35AM)
I do, MagikDavid -- it's definitely fun and offbeat. I'm pretty sure Enders was asking for packet tricks, but what the heck. I like your quote, by the way -- very funny.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 10, 2019 09:43AM)
EndersGame,


I looked at the trailer for "Nothing but the truth," and enjoyed it very much. Surprisingly, it didn't include the surprise ending I've read about. Anyway, I have a question: I'm assuming that the spectator always "chooses" the card shown in the trailer. How difficult would it be to make up one's own packet that involved a different card? I don't mind if the cards have a home-made look (e. g., True and Lie written by hand), but I'm wondering how difficult it would be to set up the T. and L. cards in a way that would match the different card. Hope that made sense!


As I think about it, I could probably work this out for myself. Still interested in your thoughts.



Thanks,


Bob
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 10, 2019 09:45AM)
Just realized I should have directed my previous post to Emory -- or anyone else who has ideas, of course.
Message: Posted by: Leo Reynolds Jr (Jan 11, 2019 10:36AM)
Alien Autopsy or Cup Cards Both are fun and very different from standard cards and easy to do.
Message: Posted by: warren (Jan 11, 2019 05:06PM)
[quote]On Jan 11, 2019, Leo Reynolds Jr wrote:
Alien Autopsy or Cup Cards Both are fun and very different from standard cards and easy to do. [/quote]

I wasn't familiar with Alien Autopsy so put it in google and there was a couple of youtube clips and I still have no idea what the effect is.
Message: Posted by: dmoriarty1 (Jan 12, 2019 06:44PM)
I've got two packet tricks that I use often and believe offer a unique approach:

1) I think Alakazam's "What the tarot holds" is a pretty interesting effect:

https://www.alakazam.co.uk/product-What-The-Tarot-Holds-Card-Set.html

The method is pretty easy to figure out, and I don't use the tarot cards--just regular cards, and I assign different meanings to each card (e.g., Ace = wealth; hearts is good, spades is bad). In this way, the cards can be pulled from an ordinary (even borrowed) deck, examined, and then you can proceed with the effect. I actually made a little holder for the cards that has "What the tarot holds" printed on one side, and the meanings of the cards on the other (I use AKQJ10 spades and hearts). I've gotten a lot of mileage out of this little packet trick!

This fits my presentation and style, so I would recommend picking up the tarot cards and routine from Alakazam.

2) Another little goodie is Rick Lax's Reverse Psychology:

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/6995

Again, pretty easy to create and master, and it adds the psychological angle to make the presentation interesting.
Message: Posted by: Feral Chorus (Jan 12, 2019 07:13PM)
Take a look a Close’s Clones. Not your run of the mill packet trick.

-Feral
Message: Posted by: DaveGripenwaldt (Jan 14, 2019 03:41PM)
You might check out the "Vintage" section at Card Shark. They have a number of effects that use non-standard cards.

Here is the URL: http://www.card-shark.de/index.cfm?page=19&lang=en&shop=true&Category=3
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Jan 14, 2019 03:44PM)
Stick men 4 from the Richard Sanders Show dvd set.
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Jan 14, 2019 06:53PM)
Color Monte (unless that's a "usual" recommendation?)
The mirror finish colored diamonds are unusual (to laymen) and the kicker is extra unusual.
Message: Posted by: magikmax (Jan 21, 2019 03:39PM)
Gone by Daniel Bryan is a nice packet trick, sold by Alakazam Magic in the UK. AFAIK they offer free world-wide shipping on their own items (which this is one)
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jan 21, 2019 05:07PM)
Close-up Illusion by Larry Jennings. Not your usual packet trick for sure.
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 21, 2019 06:43PM)
Inigmntoya,



I don't know how EndersGame feels about Color Monte, but I love it. Some people dislike the marketed cards and prefer regular cards from a deck, but I like the red and blue diamonds -- they're festive. I've changed the story a bit; I make it a (fictitious) story about my sister and me attending the State Fair when we were kids, and the diamonds suggest the colorful atmosphere of a carnival.
Message: Posted by: Kaliix (Jan 21, 2019 06:58PM)
I like the red and blue diamonds as well. The problem I had with them was that spectators couldn't really tell them apart in low light, so that became a problem in the restaurant (or any other low light environment). I also wasn't overly fond of the $14 dollar card. The other issue was that sometimes you didn't have the cards on you but still wanted to do the routine. All things considered, I now do the routine with "two" jokers and the ace of spades. My kicker is the queen of hearts for the line, "he said gambling's not your thing kid, maybe you'll have better luck with the ladies..." (turn over QH).

The other packet routine I do often is Capitulating Queens.

[quote]On Jan 21, 2019, Bob G wrote:
Inigmntoya,
I don't know how EndersGame feels about Color Monte, but I love it. Some people dislike the marketed cards and prefer regular cards from a deck, but I like the red and blue diamonds -- they're festive. I've changed the story a bit; I make it a (fictitious) story about my sister and me attending the State Fair when we were kids, and the diamonds suggest the colorful atmosphere of a carnival. [/quote]
Message: Posted by: Bob G (Jan 21, 2019 07:04PM)
Cute ending, Kalix. I like it. I can see how the red and blue could look similar -- I haven't tried performing in low light.


I don't like the $14 card either. I use a mischievous-looking old fashioned joker. I relate to my audience that this is the one time when I was able to do *real* magic. I told the swindler that no one owed anyone anything. He said, what do you mean it's a joke? I said, with an authority that surprised me, just turn over the card. When he does, he sees the joker and realizes that he joke is on him.


Nice quote, by the way.
Message: Posted by: dmoriarty1 (Jan 21, 2019 10:37PM)
[quote]On Jan 21, 2019, Kaliix wrote:

The other packet routine I do often is Capitulating Queens. [/quote]

Kaliix,

I agree. I've been performing Capitulating Queens for years. That and Aldo Colombini's Come Together are my favorites.

Also, agree with the other poster--great quote.

D.
Message: Posted by: Dollarbill (Jan 23, 2019 05:01PM)
[quote]On Jan 14, 2019, inigmntoya wrote:
Color Monte (unless that's a "usual" recommendation?)
The mirror finish colored diamonds are unusual (to laymen) and the kicker is extra unusual. [/quote]

Every single magician in the world should own this trick. I performed this for my son and then moved on to perform Virginia City shuffle (wich I thought was a better closer out of the 2. My son hands down said "That $14 dollar card came out of no where". And fwiw..... I think my TCC wallet fell out of my pocket with both of those in it and everything was in new condition! Thank God I have several Color Monties bought here on the Café'. Lucky for me I also have an AH + Blank 1 W-F-D***s. I need a new TCC wallet.

Oh and Tommy Wonders "Tamed cards" is awesome.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yvURE6ueeEk&t=1s
Message: Posted by: stickmondoo (Jan 24, 2019 06:55AM)
I love Back Flip by Sam Schwartz. It is a great packet trick and the final colour change really catches people off guard. Also with a little thinking it resets automatically.
Message: Posted by: stickmondoo (Jan 24, 2019 06:59AM)
Also Nightmare Monte from Bob Kings Magician Foolers is a great little packet trick. Very easy very visual with a very funny patter line. I have played around with this routine a lot and come up with some extra bits that can be added if you want to make it a longer routine.
Message: Posted by: Inert (Jan 24, 2019 12:46PM)
Totally agree with Dollarbill that Color Monte is pretty much mandatory equipment. Always, always goes over big. Lots of magicians don't like the special cards, but the public sure does.
Message: Posted by: lands10 (Jan 27, 2019 09:46PM)
I use John Rogers (woodencigar.com) Sobriety Test all the time and I think it is the ultimate packet trick. The story is engaging, the cards change multiple times and there is a kicker ending. The premise is that you were pulled over for a sobriety test. The officer shows you four aces and asks which is upside down. Naturally you answer none. They are fanned out again and one is face down. You are asked four times and each time you get it wrong. Then for phase two of the test you are asked what the color are the backs, you answer and your are wrong again, they are all different. Finally for phase three you are asked to breath on the cards and when they are shown they all turn into beer signs. That is all but one, which turns into a coca cola sign. The story is engaging and for many of the spectators they take the intro seriously and it takes until the second change until they realize it is a card trick. The only negative, unlike John Bannons packet tricks, the cards cannot be handed out for examination.
Message: Posted by: dmoriarty1 (Jan 28, 2019 05:25AM)
[quote]On Jan 27, 2019, lands10 wrote:
I use John Rogers (woodencigar.com) Sobriety Test all the time and I think it is the ultimate packet trick. The story is engaging, the cards change multiple times and there is a kicker ending. [/quote]

lands10,

Thanks for explaining the routine. I've actually never heard of this packet trick, but it sounds like fun! I tried the website you provided, and it leads to a blank page. When I searched a bit more, I found a couple of links:

https://www.johnrogers.com/sobriety.html

https://www.johnrogers.com/sobriety2.html

Thanks again for the recommendation!

D.
Message: Posted by: lands10 (Jan 28, 2019 03:03PM)
Hi dmoriarty1,
That is the trick. It's excellent.
Message: Posted by: stickmondoo (Feb 1, 2019 02:42AM)
Gr - Eight is great. It’s by Scott F Guinn And it’s in Still Small Still Deadly by Paul Hallas. It’s a comedy routine and a bit different to the usual. You can do it from a normal deck but you really need to get a separate envelope or packet to get it from due to the nature of the thing.
Message: Posted by: scottvraneshfallin (Apr 10, 2019 04:38PM)
I second the recommendation for Bob Farmer's "Headhunter". It is a terrific trick.
Message: Posted by: supremefiction (Apr 11, 2019 08:30AM)
See the Fast n Genious decks for non standard faces